Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Yeah, it could have been an amazing event if we'd had to actually work through the cave like in Serpent's Treasure. As it is, it was sort of like "Ling Qi wanders into the ominous cave like a badass, steals stuff from a grave, and wanders out because she's awesome" rather than a great accomplishment or anything.
I disagree. Turning it into an event would have just been a slog, I'm glad this was handled on autopilot. Just thinking about the pointless arguments we would have had if we needed to vote on what to do after reaching the pool of darkness makes me groan. Not to mention the delay. We had a clear goal and Ling Qi handles the execution better than we do.

For those saying it was too easy, the difficulty of the quest is a function of the difficulty of the rolls, not the number of votes, so the difficulty was entirely appropriate for Ling Qi's level.
 
I think people are forgetting that to most people, Ling Qi would be considered one of the Monsters of the year. Cai herself puts Ling in the top 8 of the year combat-wise- probably higher, since she thinks only sheer bad luck could stop us making the Inner Sect this year. That means that Cai thinks Ling Qi is in the top 4% of the combat-focused disciples, and it can be assumed- since roughly the same number become Inner Sect Production Disciples as get in through the tournament- that Ling Qi is in the top 2% of her year. Quite possibly, she may be in the top 1%. Not to mention that we are progressing a lot faster than is typical- remember the actual breakthrough process for Green is supposed to take months, let alone getting there in the first place. It's highly likely that most cultivators wouldn't increase in power much between getting the quest and attempting it, since Green is usually marked by extremely slow gains. (most people take their entire lifetime- so 2-300 years- to get anywhere close to Cyan. Part of that is they tend to have other responsibilities, but part's also that we have abnormally high talent. We're something like a once-in-a-decade talent. There's a reason why almost everyone else at our level or above are nobles- and from quite high nobility at that- since they are the ones who have considerable advantages we haven't had. (for a start, they probably get Spirit Stones from home rather than needing to hunt for cores to sell. That and they seem to have started cultivation earlier if Cai and Bai are any guide)

In short, we are roughly on par with the elite of our year and people are complaining things aren't a challenge. Ever think that might be why the top 8 fighters gain admittance to the Inner Sect? The Outer Sect is really intended for either training, or the more...mundane...cultivators. Remember that female Inner Sect tutor who said helping mortals by blessing the fields (or that's basically what they were doing, I can't remember the term they used) was outer sect work? In many ways, we're someone who is stuck in the newbie area of an MMO since our character is too new to leave, but we're over-levelled for the newbie area.
 
I think people are forgetting that to most people, Ling Qi would be considered one of the Monsters of the year. Cai herself puts Ling in the top 8 of the year combat-wise- probably higher, since she thinks only sheer bad luck could stop us making the Inner Sect this year. That means that Cai thinks Ling Qi is in the top 4% of the combat-focused disciples, and it can be assumed- since roughly the same number become Inner Sect Production Disciples as get in through the tournament- that Ling Qi is in the top 2% of her year. Quite possibly, she may be in the top 1%. Not to mention that we are progressing a lot faster than is typical- remember the actual breakthrough process for Green is supposed to take months, let alone getting there in the first place. It's highly likely that most cultivators wouldn't increase in power much between getting the quest and attempting it, since Green is usually marked by extremely slow gains. (most people take their entire lifetime- so 2-300 years- to get anywhere close to Cyan. Part of that is they tend to have other responsibilities, but part's also that we have abnormally high talent. We're something like a once-in-a-decade talent. There's a reason why almost everyone else at our level or above are nobles- and from quite high nobility at that- since they are the ones who have considerable advantages we haven't had. (for a start, they probably get Spirit Stones from home rather than needing to hunt for cores to sell. That and they seem to have started cultivation earlier if Cai and Bai are any guide)

In short, we are roughly on par with the elite of our year and people are complaining things aren't a challenge. Ever think that might be why the top 8 fighters gain admittance to the Inner Sect? The Outer Sect is really intended for either training, or the more...mundane...cultivators. Remember that female Inner Sect tutor who said helping mortals by blessing the fields (or that's basically what they were doing, I can't remember the term they used) was outer sect work? In many ways, we're someone who is stuck in the newbie area of an MMO since our character is too new to leave, but we're over-levelled for the newbie area.
Moon quest is not a outer sect quest.

For example, if you are talking about area, outer sect missions already send us far beyond the outer sect (dragon vale, core disciple mansion). Moon Quest can easily do the same, and it's not limited by the sect's own rules about what quest to give to what groups, either.

We could easily be sent someplace inner sect disciples usually have their own missions for mid-greens and so on for a moon quest.
 
I answered that- since most people gain very slowly, EPC5 quests are probably scaled for someone who'se barely got Early Green Cultivation, not someone who'se contemplating Green Appraisal.
 
I answered that- since most people gain very slowly, EPC5 quests are probably scaled for someone who'se barely got Early Green Cultivation, not someone who'se contemplating Green Appraisal.
Huh, what?

We are someone who has barely got into early green, not someone who is contemplating appraisal. We have no art at green... except for EPC. EPC5 need someone to already be at early green to get, but that's the only such art we have.

Ling Qi is literally as weak as a early green moon cultivator with EPC5 will ever be.
The original complaint wasn't even about difficulty, it was about a lacking execution in the writing. Geez.
Yeah, sorry, I'm being dumb.
 
I agree that the moon quest scene was kind of lacking. That is another reason why I want to change up the format after this year ends. I really do feel that these week turns packed full of concurrent events are wearing at my ability to construct good scenes without slowing the progress rate to even more of a crawl.
 
Given that spirits are unseen to mortal eyes does that mean once one gets high enough in cultivation and becomes more spirit then mortal they no longer can be seen by mortals except through their domain?

Like assuming they live long enough (and remain mortal) Qingge/Biyu will no longer be able to perceive Ling Qi and only register her through the feeling of home she radiates?
 
I agree that the moon quest scene was kind of a sge up the format after this year ends. I really do feel that these week turns packed full of concurrent events are wearing at my ability to construct good scenes without slowing the progress rate to even more of a crawl.

I think you could probably make the switch now, if you wanted. I think we have good general sense of what's feasible cultivation wise by the time the tournament starts, baring something out of left field like a major injury or a new pill or new must-have Art. There are a bunch of different cuLtivation plans floating around and we could vote to lock in one. Then the rest of the updates would be social or event interludes with an occasional update for how far along Ling Qi's training and cultivation are coming.
 
Given that spirits are unseen to mortal eyes does that mean once one gets high enough in cultivation and becomes more spirit then mortal they no longer can be seen by mortals except through their domain?

Like assuming they live long enough (and remain mortal) Qingge/Biyu will no longer be able to perceive Ling Qi and only register her through the feeling of home she radiates?
This would possibly be true, but I don't think it will be a problem until say around Prism or Indigo, maybe not even until Great Spirit ascension.

Regardless, such a thing will likely be so far into the future that unless Qingge/Biyu are cultivators (hence invalidating the point, as you said) they will already be dead.

It might become relevent if Qingge reaches Yellow, depending on how far we reach within 200 years, but even then that's a maybe.
 
I think you could probably make the switch now, if you wanted. I think we have good general sense of what's feasible cultivation wise by the time the tournament starts, baring something out of left field like a major injury or a new pill or new must-have Art. There are a bunch of different cuLtivation plans floating around and we could vote to lock in one. Then the rest of the updates would be social or event interludes with an occasional update for how far along Ling Qi's training and cultivation are coming.
Wasn't there going to be a somewhat longer break for yrs to get stuff in order for the new system?
If it's actually possible to switch over to a lite version on a dime, I wouldn't mind doing so until the tournament, but if it requires a break for system building the tournament does seem like a more narratively fitting cutoff point.
Then again, I suppose we did get through both the career path choice and qimom reunion recently.
 
Wasn't there going to be a somewhat longer break for yrs to get stuff in order for the new system?
If it's actually possible to switch over to a lite version on a dime, I wouldn't mind doing so until the tournament, but if it requires a break for system building the tournament does seem like a more narratively fitting cutoff point.
Then again, I suppose we did get through both the career path choice and qimom reunion recently.
What I'm proposing isn't a new system, just a kludge on the current one where we spell out a cultivation plan for eight weeks instead of doing the weeks one by one.
 
Given that spirits are unseen to mortal eyes does that mean once one gets high enough in cultivation and becomes more spirit then mortal they no longer can be seen by mortals except through their domain?

Like assuming they live long enough (and remain mortal) Qingge/Biyu will no longer be able to perceive Ling Qi and only register her through the feeling of home she radiates?
Ling Qi was able to, when mortal, see Elder Jiao make the entrance speech to the sect. Elder Jiao is a prism that's seemingly focused on becoming more spirit than man (he has to remind himself to have limbs). At that point, only at White would there even be a chance of that happening.
 
I agree that the moon quest scene was kind of lacking. That is another reason why I want to change up the format after this year ends. I really do feel that these week turns packed full of concurrent events are wearing at my ability to construct good scenes without slowing the progress rate to even more of a crawl.
You might consider having the action list be what happens but then only doing part of it in detail?
 
What I'm proposing isn't a new system, just a kludge on the current one where we spell out a cultivation plan for eight weeks instead of doing the weeks one by one.
I'd say this is workable for the final 5 weeks before the tournament. Before it the 2 SLP weeks should be fairly eventful (softcap our Zeqing-trainable music arts, 2 tutors of which 1 might be Ruan Shen), but otherwise light on minors.

Really the only unresolved thread for our remaining time is Renshu. Well, him and gear for us and Zhengui.

Beyond those it's just social and going through the motions with "1 tutor, 1 mission, 3 training action" weeks and playing minors tetris to ensure our social goals are met.
 
I think you could probably make the switch now, if you wanted. I think we have good general sense of what's feasible cultivation wise by the time the tournament starts, baring something out of left field like a major injury or a new pill or new must-have Art. There are a bunch of different cuLtivation plans floating around and we could vote to lock in one. Then the rest of the updates would be social or event interludes with an occasional update for how far along Ling Qi's training and cultivation are coming.
What I'm proposing isn't a new system, just a kludge on the current one where we spell out a cultivation plan for eight weeks instead of doing the weeks one by one.
While it would simplify things a bit, and make sure we actually achieve something instead of switching from overall plan every other week, it would also prevent addaptation to issues popping up. From interupts to missions pill rewards that would save actions, or even a new art. Heck, what if we get a new spirit ?
 
While it would simplify things a bit, and make sure we actually achieve something instead of switching from overall plan every other week, it would also prevent addaptation to issues popping up. From interupts to missions pill rewards that would save actions, or even a new art. Heck, what if we get a new spirit ?
I think it's implied in the proposal that social arcs are handled cohesively instead of piecemeal, maybe with votes along the way for key decision points and any surprises that might arise.
 
Ling Qi was able to, when mortal, see Elder Jiao make the entrance speech to the sect. Elder Jiao is a prism that's seemingly focused on becoming more spirit than man (he has to remind himself to have limbs). At that point, only at White would there even be a chance of that happening.
Ah, I forgot about that. Good to know.
 
If anyone is wondering, here is the changed bit, plus the context on which it appears:

The guardsmen she had served, were not so different than mortal men, though the bruises they left often lasted longer. So, stronger, perhaps, and with an intensity and vigor that normal folk lacked, but not fundamentally different.

She could remember her great uncle, the clan head of the He, a graying man said to be nearly two hundred years old, yet even the authoritative patriarch she recalled from her early memories paled compared to her daughter. For all that he had seemed an unshakable pillar of the clan, he was still just a man. Her daughter on the other hand... it was difficult to describe.

She had felt her, before she had seen her, a presence like the first kiss of winter cold drifting on the fall wind, like the feeling in ones bones when the rains were coming and the mist would soon drift in, casting the world into dreamlike haze. That feeling had only intensified upon seeing her, and it made Ling Qingge wonder, the old judge who had visited her did not seem so intense, save for a moment when he had dismissed a frivolous excuse from one of her creditors. Was making oneself seem human merely a skill her daughter lacked, or did she simply not see any reason to bother?

She supposed, if she still knew her daughter, that it was more likely that the girl simply wouldn't have considered the matter. She could not quite put to words what made her daughter seem inhuman now, perhaps it the too quick movements of her limbs, the faint glow in her eyes, or even the strange way that she breathed, so slow and shallow, the rise and fall of her chest barely visible to the eye. A hundred little things, that made her seem more like a spirit from a cautionary tale than a young girl.

Yet it had all faded away when they embraced. Beneath the cold and unsettling breeze, Ling Qi was warm and welcoming, a blazing hearth on a cold winter night, reminding her of better times, and uncorrupted memories of her own long deceased Mother, singing her to sleep while the cold southern winds rattled the shutters. She had accepted it then, that this strange spirit-girl truly was her daughter.

If only she could feel confident that she could be a mother to such a person.
 
Alrighty, added a few paragraphs to Qimom's interlude, which I think improve it a bit. Back to work on the actual update now.
Much improved, thank you! There new section gives a much clearer description of how Ling Qingge actually perceived Ling Qi, and it ties fantastically into the later description of the Dutchess's visit and the aura Qimom felt then.
 
Really like the imagery of it really, the dreamlike wind and snow and mist hiding the warm hearth and home.

Still isn't this with Ling Qi suppressing part of her aura? Or maybe mortals cant hear the BGM and see the silver glow.
 
It's just her passive state, the glow and such is when your actively projecting qi.

Just like the mobile oppression zone is just Shenhua's resting state, not something she makes any active effort toward.

Rather, suppressing those things entirely is an ect of effort, ala Mr. Judge
 
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