Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
[X] Plan Sneaking Terror
Lets go agree to the offer already
Lets go agree to the offer already
[X] Plan Lunar Arts
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] Plan Efficient Music
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
[X] Plan Lunar Arts
Hmm, so that's the real reason why a genius like Fan Yu is taking so long to cultivate, he's secretly a double cultivator who worked his way from mortal to second realm twice over!!
- Location
- Dreamland
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Plan Lunar Arts
For reference, I did a quick calc of what the lunar plan costs us. For this, I compared the following scenarios:
- We do the Efficient Music plan now, followed by a tutoring action with SCS and PLR next week.
- We do the Lunar Arts plan now, followed by an FSS action next week.
- Tutoring and the possible virtual stone mean that Option 1 gets us 20 dice to SCS, with another 5 Spiritual dice from the Black Pool. In comparison, option 2 gives 15 dice to spiritual and 5 dice to FSS.
- Option 1 gets us about 43-30=13 successes to SCS from taking an SCS action instead of gaining stealth successes. It also gives ~10 successes to Spiritual thanks to the Black Pool. Option 2 gets us about 45-30=15 extra Spiritual successes from using a cultivation action to overflow into Spiritual instead of a Stealth bonus.
- The possible virtual stone and getting to use EPV bonuses means option 1 gets us an extra 17 dice to PLR.
- -20 SCS dice
- +10 Spiritual dice
- +5 FSS dice
- -13 SCS successes
- +5 Spiritual successes
In simpler terms, this is +3 FVM successes, +10 Spiritual successes, and -23 SCS successes, which means we are losing something like half an action on SCS and gaining maybe a sixth of an action on Spiritual; the rest is rounding error.
So the net cost is 1/3 of an action. Could be worse, certainly.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
I'm not sure why this is a either/or though.
It's likely we'll end up taking a archive level 3 art, which would indeed slow down the tutoring, but we have currently 48 sect points, and in the next three weeks we'll do a 30 point mission then two 25 points missions. So we'll lose 90 points from tutoring, and win 80 from missions. We'll then be at 38 sect points. As long as we can keep getting 25 points missions we can have tutors for every weeks until the end of the year.
Obviously, this will change as we might want arts, but I don't consider a 'trade off on tutoring' between this and next week.
- Location
- United States
[X] Plan Lunar Arts
If you truly feel like we have a surfeit of sect points, nothing stops us from taking multiple tutoring actions in one week. In fact, if anything that seems desirable, especially on pill weeks (which we've got 5 of in the near future). So I think the comparison I listed is entirely valid in this respect.
That said, I don't actually agree that we would want to use sect points that loosely. There are going to be weeks where we don't have a free action slot for it, such as SLP weeks. I also wouldn't be surprised if we failed a mission somewhere, or gave one up due to an interrupt, or just didn't take one because nothing good was available.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Wasn't it you who convinced us that multiple tutoring actions in the same week shouldn't work? I can't recall.
Anyway, you are right that we can't rely on tutors every weeks, though tutors almost every week is definitely doable... depending on moon quest. Moon quest might very well be a big issue there.
I tried making the argument, but it was rejected by the thread, so I stopped beating that dead horse.
And if we are doing tutors almost every week then I don't see why my comparison as something that has only 1 tutoring action in weeks 41-42 is lacking.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Basically because until we find out we are forced to not take tutors for one reason or another we should be hoping to do one every week. For example, if next week we have to do moon quest and can't do missions, that does mean we'll have to slow down tutoring the week after the next for a bit... but we are close enough to the 'tutor every week' dream that we should aim for it as long as the sacrifices aren't too big.
Once again, we know we are going to miss at least two weeks of missions thanks to SLP weeks, so it is entirely safe to "miss" tutoring for one week. I would further posit that it is advisable, because it gives us flexibility later on; it is much easier to do tutoring on a week that we didn't plan to than it is to skip tutoring on a week where it expected it. Given that we are going to want to do Argent Weeks and maybe even an SLP week soon, I think it is a net positive that we get to skip a tutoring action here, not a negative.
Especially since, once again, we can always double up on tutoring if need be.
