Alright, will fix that.
>Lexicalum fails their Design
Me: ...Well now. Interesting. Good thing I had made it easier on them, otherwise that two could have been Bad.
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Blood, Sweat, and Tears (WH40k Design Bureau)
- Thread starter DaLintyGuy
- Start date
- Sci-Fi
>Lexicalum fails their Design
Me: ...Well now. Interesting. Good thing I had made it easier on them, otherwise that two could have been Bad.
- Location
- Florida
What were they designing again? Also, does this mean we have to deal with a deamon infestation or something at Lexicalum?
Combat vessel, same displacement as the Sabre.
It actually wasn't a critical failure after accounting for bonuses (maybe it should have an affect regardless...) but on this sort of project no. It will have some narrative consequences though.
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Rolls were real swingy this turn overall. Some good, some... Not.
Good thing we didn't go for warp drive tech then.
Put together a couple more tech writeups:
(Utility) Gorgon Naval Mine Layer: Space, as the ancient saying goes, is big. This would seem to make contact mines useless, since covering any noteworthy stretch of space with sufficient density would require truly obscene numbers of them. This has not stopped the Imperial Navy, however, which is well known to use naval mines produced in sufficiently absurd quantities. When asked how this is accomplished, the Mechanicus of Calavar throw up their hands in bafflement. The Calavan navy requires a different approach. The Gorgon naval mine employs bomb-pumped lasers and an inexpensive set of passive sensors to achieve an effective range measured in hundreds of kilometers, and as an added bonus includes IFF capabilities. To better deal with shielded targets, they are programmed to hold fire until either an enemy ship approaches fairly closely or they observe another mine going off, ensuring that the mines strike in coordinated salvos. Although each mine is significantly more expensive than a simple contact mine, the mine density required for effectiveness is literally tens of thousands of times lower. On board mine-laying ships, dedicated manufactoriums produce these mines, and specially modified shuttles carefully place them in their orbits.
(Defense) Mark IV Rapid Shields: The bubble-type rapid shields have proven quite successful, but there is still room for improvement. The layout needs little revision, but the individual generators are only modestly more sophisticated than typical navigational shields. With improvements to the generators, and especially the power and cooling systems, it should be possible to substantially improve both the strength and the refresh rate of the shield layers.
(Utility) Gorgon Naval Mine Layer: Space, as the ancient saying goes, is big. This would seem to make contact mines useless, since covering any noteworthy stretch of space with sufficient density would require truly obscene numbers of them. This has not stopped the Imperial Navy, however, which is well known to use naval mines produced in sufficiently absurd quantities. When asked how this is accomplished, the Mechanicus of Calavar throw up their hands in bafflement. The Calavan navy requires a different approach. The Gorgon naval mine employs bomb-pumped lasers and an inexpensive set of passive sensors to achieve an effective range measured in hundreds of kilometers, and as an added bonus includes IFF capabilities. To better deal with shielded targets, they are programmed to hold fire until either an enemy ship approaches fairly closely or they observe another mine going off, ensuring that the mines strike in coordinated salvos. Although each mine is significantly more expensive than a simple contact mine, the mine density required for effectiveness is literally tens of thousands of times lower. On board mine-laying ships, dedicated manufactoriums produce these mines, and specially modified shuttles carefully place them in their orbits.
(Defense) Mark IV Rapid Shields: The bubble-type rapid shields have proven quite successful, but there is still room for improvement. The layout needs little revision, but the individual generators are only modestly more sophisticated than typical navigational shields. With improvements to the generators, and especially the power and cooling systems, it should be possible to substantially improve both the strength and the refresh rate of the shield layers.
Because of various solutions. Bomb pumped lasers/ranged ordnance is one of them, another to use supercooled gas to nudge bombs onto the paths of enemy ships, and the use of quite large yield payloads akin to Nova ordnance. Deadfall torpedoes are also a thing, as they are essentially a mine but "go hot" rather than attempting to sneak up on the target.
Harbinger Transport
The Harbinger, as seen from the front. No one is quite sure why its designers opted for paired fighter cockpits instead of something more spacious and less exposed.
As a surface-to-orbit transport, the Harbinger needs both plasma drives for void travel and turbofans for atmospheric flight deep in gravity wells.
The Harbinger is routinely required to land in areas without a landing strip, so VTOL capabilities are necessary. This is achieved by rotating the turbofans 90 degrees. The shock-absorbing landing gear is also extended in this picture.
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Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Hey GM, I was thinking, is it possible to trade ship for ship to, say, Bagalog? Like, trade a 33M Warrior for one of theirs that's in a similar price range if only to have one of their heavy armor fellas?
It would be a deployment action to send someone over to ask and negotiate, with results dependent on how much they like you. But it is possible.
Surely offering a really good corvette would smooth along negotiations?
So you want to trade two ships for one of theirs? That would certainly help.
Heh.
No, more like: would what the ship comes with affect negotiations? I know I talked about a "price" range so to say, but surely they would be more interested in a gun boat then a carrier.
They've got a lot of gunboats already, including a Light Cruiser (that's been in their docks since they salvaged it) and Escorts with plasma.
So a lance boat would be better?
Yes. Or an Angry Turtle and an official production license for the Savior.
Don't they have their own lance boats too? According to our naval intelligence, their Knife-class carries a strength 4 lance (presumably a factory-condition Firestorm lance courtesy of the explorator).
Yeah, they do have that don't they. Still, they've been putting a lot of advanced industry into refitting their prizes rather than their smaller ships.
What I'll ask you to do in a case like this is to lay out a bunch of things you are willing to trade and your pointman will find a combination of them that will satisfy your opposites and get you the Stuff you want. If there isn't one (because of political concerns or insufficient Stuff on offer) then there is nothing they can do. To get around this... You would need a consulate, the limits of which I am unsure of as of now. Possibly a squadron left in that system for security and holding your essential personnel when they are not actively engaged.
Update should be out tomorrow.
- Location
- Seattle, Washington
@aceraptor I decided to take the time to reformat your construction plan proposal into something that should be a bit easier to read.
[] Plan Cruiser and Defenses MkII (419M 10A)
-[] Ship Building
--[] Start Trailblazer-class Light Cruiser (total 129M [reduced cost by 10 from bonus],8A; spend 53M +30M Media Bonus and 5A)
---[] Martinet-Class Light Cruiser (16M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (16M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (16M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (6M)
---[] Essential Life Support (8M)
---[] Bastion Housing (12M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (12M, 3A)
---[] Plasma broadside (8M, 5A)
---[] Scaffold Armor (6M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (18M)
---[] Corona-Pattern Point Defense Array (6M)
---[] Repair Deck (6M)
---[] Militarized Engines (9M)
--[] Protected Bulk Hauler (68M) [Trade Worlds]
---[] Bulk Hauler (15M)
---[] Merchant Bridge (4M)
---[] Merchant Sensors (4M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (6M)
---[] Essential Life Support (8M)
---[] Barracks Housing (4M)
---[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkI (6M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (18M)
---[] Tuned Merchant Thrusters (3M)
--[] Long Arm B-class Heavy Frigate (20M+30M Media Bonus, 3A)
---[] War Hawk MkII Heavy Frigate (8M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (4M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (4M)
---[] Essential Life Support (2M)
---[] Bastion Housing (3M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (4M, 1A)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
---[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
---[] Repair Deck (2M)
---[] Militarized Engines (3M)
--[] 1x Incomplete Spatha hull with better engines for Yttreum (17M) [Exchange for Yttreum auxiliaries protecting Calavar shipping]
---[] Spatha-class hull, militarized engines, merchant sensors, warp, essential life support, barracks
-[] Construction
--[] Watchtower-class Defense Platform (Total cost: 39M, 2A) [Bailafax]
---[] Trench-Class Small Defense Platform (3M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (4M)
---[] Essential Life Support (2M)
---[] Bastion Housing (3M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Cove-pattern Hangar (4M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
---[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
---[] Repair Deck (2M)
---[] Savior S-1s (1M)
--[] 1x Sunstrike Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Bailafax]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Atomic Warheads (2M)
--[] 1x Denier class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Bailafax]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Macrocannon MkI (2M)
--[] 1x Sunstrike Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Uniary]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Atomic Warheads (2M)
--[] 1x Denier Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Uniary]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Mk. I Macrocannons (2M)
-[] Repairs
--[] Repair Octan Platform (25M)
--[] General Repairs (12M)
-[] Diplomacy Spending
--[] Gehault Repairs (90M)
--[] Gehault Fleet Support Ship Prototyping (10M)
--[] Lativa Shelter Armor (22M)
--[] Yttreum Repairs (40M)
-[] Ship Building
--[] Start Trailblazer-class Light Cruiser (total 129M [reduced cost by 10 from bonus],8A; spend 53M +30M Media Bonus and 5A)
---[] Martinet-Class Light Cruiser (16M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (16M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (16M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (6M)
---[] Essential Life Support (8M)
---[] Bastion Housing (12M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (12M, 3A)
---[] Plasma broadside (8M, 5A)
---[] Scaffold Armor (6M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (18M)
---[] Corona-Pattern Point Defense Array (6M)
---[] Repair Deck (6M)
---[] Militarized Engines (9M)
--[] Protected Bulk Hauler (68M) [Trade Worlds]
---[] Bulk Hauler (15M)
---[] Merchant Bridge (4M)
---[] Merchant Sensors (4M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (6M)
---[] Essential Life Support (8M)
---[] Barracks Housing (4M)
---[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkI (6M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Cargo Hold (0M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (18M)
---[] Tuned Merchant Thrusters (3M)
--[] Long Arm B-class Heavy Frigate (20M+30M Media Bonus, 3A)
---[] War Hawk MkII Heavy Frigate (8M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (4M)
---[] Merchant Warp Drive (4M)
---[] Essential Life Support (2M)
---[] Bastion Housing (3M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (4M, 1A)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
---[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
---[] Repair Deck (2M)
---[] Militarized Engines (3M)
--[] 1x Incomplete Spatha hull with better engines for Yttreum (17M) [Exchange for Yttreum auxiliaries protecting Calavar shipping]
---[] Spatha-class hull, militarized engines, merchant sensors, warp, essential life support, barracks
-[] Construction
--[] Watchtower-class Defense Platform (Total cost: 39M, 2A) [Bailafax]
---[] Trench-Class Small Defense Platform (3M)
---[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
---[] Distributed Array Auspex (4M)
---[] Essential Life Support (2M)
---[] Bastion Housing (3M)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Farstrike Lance (4M, 1A)
---[] Cove-pattern Hangar (4M)
---[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
---[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
---[] Repair Deck (2M)
---[] Savior S-1s (1M)
--[] 1x Sunstrike Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Bailafax]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Atomic Warheads (2M)
--[] 1x Denier class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Bailafax]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Macrocannon MkI (2M)
--[] 1x Sunstrike Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Uniary]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Atomic Warheads (2M)
--[] 1x Denier Class Terrestrial Defense (6M) [Uniary]
---[] Hull: Terrestrial Battery (4M)
---[] Weapon: Mk. I Macrocannons (2M)
-[] Repairs
--[] Repair Octan Platform (25M)
--[] General Repairs (12M)
-[] Diplomacy Spending
--[] Gehault Repairs (90M)
--[] Gehault Fleet Support Ship Prototyping (10M)
--[] Lativa Shelter Armor (22M)
--[] Yttreum Repairs (40M)
When building a cruiser, please specify what weapon is going into which weapon slot, Prow or Broadside.
Make sure to record it in the plan.