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Also, we can't forget about Legcutta. I'm confident he is one of the largest threats to us, especially once he beats gutrippa.
Blood, Sweat, and Tears (WH40k Design Bureau)
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That's rather obvious. We really need to get the Forgeworlds back up on their feet but I feel that being able to really do that will take bringing Gehault into the fold entirely and using their IN ships to free up Grudan to allow Grudan to focus on things other than churning out cheap monitors to keep control over their orbit.
Then we can go help Laskin.
I don't think Gehault will be necessarily necessary, you see, because, well, doesn't Lexicum have a duty to their home Forge world?
Hey, actually, would it be possible to get Lexicanum to send any ships as part of a relief effort to Laskin?
As part of a mission to there? Doable. Putting in the effort to clear Laskin orbit would be an interesting storyline though, well, very difficult to execute.
Hence why I think we need to wait until we have the light cruiser and a few more lesser ships before we do anything like that.
Oh, is the situation in Laskin a stalemate? How long can Laskin last?
The Orks do not have the technology or concentrated numbers to take Laskin in a reasonable timeframe, if things continue as they are.
Thats good news at least. But the Mek is a problem given that of the warbosses around the Mek is likely to be the one that can bash together something that can crack Laskin's defenses.
Hey-o aceraptor, something occurred to me as I was reading the plan. There is one single way of making the torpedoes be that much easier to research:
- "Intolerant π"-model Torpedo: The Indignant model torpedo has served us well, but in the face of greater threats it is time to create something stronger. Removing the built-in point defense, and using the sensors to instead help guide the torpedoes into enemy ships, increasing the chance of hitting. Outfitting them with an expanded plasma reactor as its engine will hopefully allow a significantly thicker combination of armor layers that will provide a more damaging stream of superheated plasma to penetrate as well as protectivity against enemy defenses.
We are already familiar with this kind of explosive and my bonus needs to go somewhere.
Uh, isn't the bonus is going to the plasma shell project?
It's for next plasma explosives, which the torpedo can count as. I would love for it to be use for the next plasma shell project, but it's already been marinating there for a while. Better for it to be use now, I think.
Besides, at this point we might get more familiarity bonuses in the next plasma shell project anyway from working on plasma explosives multiple times.
Is there some reason you think "plasma explosive manufacturing protocols", which we're doing this turn, doesn't count as a plasma explosive project?
Because I am a dumb bastard.
Nevermind, I completely forgot about that.
Somehow.
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On another note, I think we should trade the Sacred Legacy away to Forge World Grudan
The list of things we could probably get in exchange for the ship that would be useful are:
1. Imperial Navy grade warp drive
2. better armor, possibly the secret to making Adamatium
3. Better ship engines.
4. Imperial Navy Macrocannons and exploding shells
Unlike Laskin, Grudan would actually be able to use the Sacred Legacy, since they still control their orbitals.
The list of things we could probably get in exchange for the ship that would be useful are:
1. Imperial Navy grade warp drive
2. better armor, possibly the secret to making Adamatium
3. Better ship engines.
4. Imperial Navy Macrocannons and exploding shells
Unlike Laskin, Grudan would actually be able to use the Sacred Legacy, since they still control their orbitals.
That's one option.
But I think Laskin may be a better option as:
1. We'll probably get a better deal since Laskin is more desperate and would be more grateful for our assistance (since if a trade is happening with the ancient ship then that'll mean that Laskin's orbitals are secured.
2. Their outpost Lexicalum has some radical elements which Laskin may or may not want purged once they find the full extent of what they've been doing. Political credit may be worth its weight in gold here.
Hm...
@DaLintyGuy can Lexicalum tell us what Laskin and Grudan specialized in respectively? That may tip the scales in which one we want to trade the Sacred Legacy to.
I'll leave this for the morning when my brain is more active, though Grudan founded Laskin so keep that in mind.
They are close enough that they probably trade ideas on a regular basis so both would have similar lists of techs they are willing to sell. A less desperate world might have more resources to spare for a trade and making the trade would be easier. As getting slightly more tech 5 turns later might be worse then getting it now as all of the ships build during those turns will be build without those techs.
A deployment where we send the 4th to the forge world for the trade and the 2nd to fight orcs with the rest patrolling or reinforcing these two would be my vote for this turn.
A deployment where we send the 4th to the forge world for the trade and the 2nd to fight orcs with the rest patrolling or reinforcing these two would be my vote for this turn.
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The thing is, it will be at least a few turns until we can secure Laskin's orbitals, while we could probably trade with Grudan this turn
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Trade with the Bagalog Explorator, they are obviously very willing to part with technology.
Neither truly specialize in anything, but Grudan is older. That being said there are many things you could ask for. Tech-Guard and/or Skitarii legions are the least of it. Maybe you could swing some more long term and lasting concessions such as formal assistance in found new Knight Worlds/orders, get a Mechanicus enclave on Calavar or Bailafax, or get Lexicalum expanded.
Lasting concession would be best imo. Armies, we can get ourselves. Though they will obviously be no where near the power of AdMech legions. Either getting our ally Lexicalum expanded into being on the path to being a proper Forgeworld or putting a admech enclave at Bailafax.
Any of those will likely need Calavar to pledge its effort to supporting Laskin and Grudan against the Ork menace on top of gifting them the ancient frigate.
But it'll be worth it in the long term.
A knight world for our Knight might actually be a really good option from an influence point of view. Lexicanum is expanding well on its own and an enclave would just raise our rational points, probably. Which is massively useful, don't get me wrong, but we do have ways to mitigate it.
Long term, if and when we join the greater Imperium, the Knight world is what will be most helpful long term.
Ah, we do have that freeblade. Wonder if he'll be interested in settling down?
Either way. A knight world does sound like a good investment. Especially once we win this game and things go onto the next quest which will be character driven and focused on the reclamation of the core worlds (which will likely involve facing gargants and stompers)
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@DaLintyGuy, it looks like the armies we got from trading with the Dark Star are missing from the naval registry.