Historically, there has not. Though the various convoy escorts pop in and out relatively frequently and so vaguely count.
Blood, Sweat, and Tears (WH40k Design Bureau)
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I'll reread, but I think the crusade only got notorious enough that other factions would show up to pick a fight with us a little while ago, it can probably wait until the next turn but shouldn't be put off for much longer than that.
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I agree. We need to fort up. Maybe build some monitors for Calavar.
Alright then... I can offer you a 10M discount on the first Martinet-class Hull produced. Or a bankable bonus of 10M that can only be used to construct a Martinet Hull, which would probably be a better description of what I mean.
That is mighty big but...darn it, for a beast like that Light Cruiser it's still going to be hard going!
I am taking it of course!
Hm... looking at the plan, I honestly don't mind either the carrier plan or my plan winning. Obviously I think my plan is better, but I can see where Vanigo is coming from.
For reference, this is the force we would expect to show up at Lativa for the next clash:
Locroft in or near Lativa
Space:
8x Wedge class Frigates
-3x Railcannon (Battery 2, Short Range)
-Armor rating of 4
-Accel 1, Maneuver 1
2~x Unidentified Heavy Escort sized carriers
Unknown number of transports
Ground
2x Mechanized Infantry
1x Armored
1x Superheavy factory-crawlers
So to comfortably beat that we'll have to commit the bulk of our fleet to the engagement at Lativa. As well as send in a large part of our army because individually the enemy seems superior on the ground.
As a reminder: The first clash at Lativa involved 6 Wedge frigates vs 3rd and 4th squadrons. 2 Wedges were destroyed, then a further 4 Wedge frigates showed up.
For reference, this is the force we would expect to show up at Lativa for the next clash:
Locroft in or near Lativa
Space:
8x Wedge class Frigates
-3x Railcannon (Battery 2, Short Range)
-Armor rating of 4
-Accel 1, Maneuver 1
2~x Unidentified Heavy Escort sized carriers
Unknown number of transports
Ground
2x Mechanized Infantry
1x Armored
1x Superheavy factory-crawlers
So to comfortably beat that we'll have to commit the bulk of our fleet to the engagement at Lativa. As well as send in a large part of our army because individually the enemy seems superior on the ground.
As a reminder: The first clash at Lativa involved 6 Wedge frigates vs 3rd and 4th squadrons. 2 Wedges were destroyed, then a further 4 Wedge frigates showed up.
Everything is possible but not everything is likely. A good safety net is nice, but we also need to go on the attack to get rid of the enemy we know for sure will screw us up.
I like this, I like this a lot, but sending stuff to Yttreum could see us having space assets in the form of their pirate crews and such. Not good, obviously, for the Locroft, but perhaps good enough to allow ourselves to put more forces into that theater and not have to build one more ship to keep them at a distance?
I don't think it likely, mind, but well....
Hey Mang, what kind of space assets can we expect from Yttreum IF they do deign to send space assets our way? And how likely is it?
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Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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- Indonesia
We also got a Cruiser Bombardment Cannon from Space Hulk loot
Can we stack shields?
Locraft ships are un-'shielded' not un-armored.
Rockeye
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I'm pretty sure you can? I guess we'll want @DaLintyGuy to weigh in on it.
Elite irregulars used to doing irregular things rather than stand up fights.
Of course you can.
How useful would Yttreum auxiliaries be for making it harder for pirates and raiders to attack our shipping?
Also, @Vanigo I'd like to object to your design of light cruiser not having repair deck. Our only light cruiser for a good while should had repair deck since it'll be in the thick of things. And it'll take 2 more turns regardless to complete anyways so a few more M saved isn't worth it.
Oh, and the name. Could you change the name to Trailblazer instead of Interceptor? Because that's what the ship will be doing. It'll lead our fleet into battle.
Edit: I guess I might as well change the design of my ship too. I guess we shouldn't be skimping on our new cruiser.
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Pretty good, as they are pirates themselves and seek to take the enemy as prize rather than simply drive them off in order to keep a convoy safe on that delivery.
Anyway, I am voting for this:
[x] Plan Carrier Support 2
[x] Plan Carrier Support 2
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Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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- Indonesia
So we can sell to Yt to get pirate hunters? that would be better than assigning more patrol squadrons to protect shipping. We should still do that but having the Irregulars do most of the hunting would further minimize losses.
[X] Plan Hauling and Deny the Xeno
Hmm, a further question.
This is what we got for Salvage:
Now, does that mean that the only thing we can attach to a cruiser from them is the Bombardment cannnons? Can we not, saaaaay, put that Sniper Cannon on a Bulk Hauler?
Yeah... @mithril-blade and I were hoping that we'd be able to get it out in two turns with an omake bonus, which... almost worked.
And it's not Interceptor, it's Intercessor.
You... Can, into an Omni slot. Although it would be an Escort module and not a full Cruiser module.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
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- Indonesia
We still have that Plasma Broadside from several turns ago still collecting dust that we could use.
...Did I ever stat that out? I don't think I ever did you know...
It would go better on whatever Light Cruiser we decided to make
.Ah, sorry, reading comprehension
So, on your idea of carrier for fighting the Locroft.
I don't think it'll work with a single carrier as is in your plan. The Locroft brought 2 heavy escort sized carriers. If they are like Spatha or Sabre level hulls then they will likely outmatch the single speedy carrier in terms of fighters.
And they are almost entirely focused on anti-fighter combat while our Saviors are multi-role. So our Saviors are likely to be outmatched one to one.
So I think your premise is flawed and we will be relying on our escort carriers to make up the disadvantage. Thus we should be focusing on going for lance heavy fleet clash. Not hanging everything on keeping the range open.
Also, our other carriers can keep pace with the frigates, so we should be able to hold the distance open regardless.
Both the Carrier plan and my plan is using the said plasma cannons on the light cruiser.
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Our fighters would probably be outmatched in a pure fighter-on-fighter duel, but don't forget that the ancient ship has good point defense, and macrocannons aren't totally useless against fighters either - we saw that way back on turn 1. Our fighters would be playing defense, so they'd have support from the fleet and the ability to land for repairs easily. Not to mention, the Locroft carriers will be taking fire the whole time, probably even before they launch.Ah, sorry, reading comprehension
So, on your idea of carrier for fighting the Locroft.
I don't think it'll work with a single carrier as is in your plan. The Locroft brought 2 heavy escort sized carriers. If they are like Spatha or Sabre level hulls then they will likely outmatch the single speedy carrier in terms of fighters. And they are almost entirely focused on anti-fighter combat while our Saviors are multi-role. So our Saviors are likely to be outmatched one to one. So I think your premise is flawed and we will be relying on our escort carriers to make up the disadvantage. Thus we should be focusing on going for lance heavy fleet clash.
Both the Carrier plan and my plan is using the said plasma cannons on the light cruiser.
Ah, sorry, reading comprehension
So, on your idea of carrier for fighting the Locroft.
I don't think it'll work with a single carrier as is in your plan. The Locroft brought 2 heavy escort sized carriers. If they are like Spatha or Sabre level hulls then they will likely outmatch the single speedy carrier in terms of fighters.
And they are almost entirely focused on anti-fighter combat while our Saviors are multi-role. So our Saviors are likely to be outmatched one to one.
So I think your premise is flawed and we will be relying on our escort carriers to make up the disadvantage. Thus we should be focusing on going for lance heavy fleet clash. Not hanging everything on keeping the range open.
Also, our other carriers can keep pace with the frigates, so we should be able to hold the distance open regardless.
Both the Carrier plan and my plan is using the said plasma cannons on the light cruiser.
We've got more then a single carrier in our inventory though, and we can bring them all to bear along with the new ones to the battle if need be.