It is extremely funny that the French rolled a nat 1 on the shootout, and nerds will not shut up about it for the next century I'm sure. Even if we end up paying reparations or whatever, there's now always going to be the fact that the Red Navy owned the French as soon as push came to shove.
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So uhh... how literal was Blackstar with that "WW3 is coming, congratulations" comment? "possibility of WW3" was only marked on the next level of escalation. Then again perhaps the in-quest USSR leaders made the same mistake as us (not considering the possibility of the Red Navy firing first), which made France a lot angrier.
BTW how bad is France's lack of missile armament? Were they sending their WW2 battlecruisers against us?
BTW how bad is France's lack of missile armament? Were they sending their WW2 battlecruisers against us?
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The best thing is this is the second time they roll a nat 1 in starting off a conflict over Algeria!
We can't claim concessions when we were the ones who fired on them first.
As I understand it, Blackstar is serious in that this could result in WW3 but there is de-escalation because people understandably don't want a Nuclear War to happen.
No idea on France's Missile Armament other than, it exists.
And they likely were considering there were comments on the Red Navy being the one that had Missiles in the engagement.
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No, the vote was good the dice were bad leave it at that and move on.
Its called random chance.
Honestly think that the Soviet leadership and military would find it a acceptable price for showing off and testing out the weapons?
HanEmpire
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No, they're angry that this minor skirmish nearly ended the world and killed them all. They're looking at everyone who supported sending ships as idiots who don't deserve power.
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I don't know what y'all complaining about! This is exactly what I wanted and expected to happen when I voted for it and if it's not what you wanted when you voted for it, comrade, that's on you.
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I mean, it wasn't good, that's the thing. Even if escalation hadn't happened, the long-term result (France continuing to bleed out in Algeria while we supply the resistance) would have been the same as if we'd voted to avoid escalation.
Because even if we don't ship via the Mediterranean there are other avenues of getting equipment to Algeria that France can't interdict.
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What IS the doctrine of our armies in Germany anyway? OTL the plan was "5 days to the rhine and hold", but here we're already ON the rhine and can't go further without being glassed. Are they mobilizing in fear of a presumed French land offensive?
The Soviet admiral fired first. France is the one ASKING for compensation, not bowing to it. If Klimenko wants to keep his job, we're going to need to scapegoat the admirality very hard.
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Same yeah. I didn't think this would happen, but I very much hoped
When it worked? Why would they? This is a triumph of Soviet naval power and a victory against colonialism for all the people of the world
Yeah, everything we do is a fuckup because of the dice anyway. With how cursed they are (this is not the first time I've wondered if there's something about the SV roller that skews probabilities, because some threads definitely are lucky or unlucky), and every crisis having the possibility of going hot unless we just concede to the West...it was inevitable.
>Well respected, professional navy, history of being a world class force for most of its history
>Engagement on Meditarranean, French home waters
>opponent is more well known for getting destroyed by inferior powers a dozen time over troughout history than anything aproaching competency
>nat 1
>blown the fuck out
This is event will live rent free in the minds of every french citizen for the next 100 years, for that alone it was worth it
>Engagement on Meditarranean, French home waters
>opponent is more well known for getting destroyed by inferior powers a dozen time over troughout history than anything aproaching competency
>nat 1
>blown the fuck out
This is event will live rent free in the minds of every french citizen for the next 100 years, for that alone it was worth it
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b47zsPzTLI
Btw, I really like this quest its probably my favorite one ever, (and I have read a lot of them by now) so lets not let it end here, yeah?
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Well, at least we didn't armed Gaddafi with those rolls, that would have been worst
In a way, it might have actually been better, because then Gaddafi would've been the one locked into confrontation with the West, while we would have more room to maneuver. But, well, it is what it is.
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Maybe we can promise to not ship weapons to Libya as the biggest concession.
It has a lot more weight than normal after the revelation of the French navy apparently being so much weaker than the Soviet one due to the battle.
It has a lot more weight than normal after the revelation of the French navy apparently being so much weaker than the Soviet one due to the battle.
More like victory for colonialism the Soviets approve of since the USSR has suppressed a number of cultures in the countries they have consumed around them.
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Not much worse. The reason we feared arming Gadafi was thet him launching missiles at the French would make our block the obvious aggressor, rather than merely defending our convoys.
Then that dumbass admiral fired first anyway.
On the other hand, the one time the Russian navy wins a fight, it was a fight they were absolutely not supposed to start and perhaps screwed the entire country.
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It didn't work, the French are more dedicated to the destruction of Algeria than ever and have gotten the US to ban weapon shipments in the Med. We can't help the Algerians now. And with US funding and supplies, Francafrique might survive.