Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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A Quick Summary of Political Events in the Quest from 1950-1957

Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics

The Industrial Sprint and the 1950-1957

Malenkov-Mikoyan Era 5th 5yp (1950-1955)

  • The fifties started on some of the highest hopes for Soviet politics with broad scale political and economic modernization promised and somewhat achieved.
  • The economic plan selected was one that heavily focused on heavy industrial development which was something of a mistake in terms of net economic growth, but one that enabled breaking the sector away from Stalinism and avoiding broad collapses that came from profitability reforms.
  • In 1950 Mikoyan technically consolidated the government, compromising with socially liberal factions to quasi take the trifecta, making himself have the power of Chairman of the Supreme Soviet(Klim was still in the post but he could basically do nothing), General Secretary, and Chairman of the Presidium of the Council of Ministers.
  • The above were some of the reasons for the reforms and the right wing drive in the aftermath of Stalin came somewhat from the masses of lower cadres/the formal start of the late 2nd/3rd generation of party leadership(born 1910+) coming up from below and compromising with Mikoyan for power.
  • Largest cause for this was a wider acceptability of removing Stalinism in several forms especially on the lower cadres with destalinization wielded as a weapon for radically reforming the Soviet state more than a social or moralistic cause.
  • The Republic of the Levant somewhat stabilized here if only for strong US aid and the US government seeing it as an externalizing measure that avoided stepping on anyone's toes and was relatively far seeing in Soviet containment across the middle east.
  • It was judged as a compromise option to prevent easy soviet compromises of the monarchies, finding a local organization that was willing to go for a one state solution and backing it somewhat.
  • The Gorky nat 100 was what broke you through to somewhat competitive machinery on an immediate basis and somewhat supported your entire modern industrial production base
  • The focus on infrastructure started tilting very heavily towards rail with you sprinting down every rail program you can see
  • Power cost reforms were basically pushed through due to your people freaking out over a non existent mirage of small businesses
  • This fear was mostly magnified by larger enterprise owners and had zero basis in reality but was a functional ish compromise
  • CMEA had some of the largest changes in timeline with Mikoyan preferring governments in his image, authoritarian but compromises and not attempting to rapidly shift the economy
  • Internally this was justified as a part of European economic integration, focusing on making CMEA what Europe was for the 1920 USA in some of the same terms with mixed results
  • Moderate ish governments relative to OTL enabled far greater growth and a relative lack of bright ideas that were caused through more sane leadership not as obsessed with implementing perfect Stalinism in the immediate moment
  • Later in 1950 the full speed sprint for rail continued with massive construction across the Union, arguably bringing the network to a state that it would not exist at OTL, and with far more routes than were ever historically proposed
  • The US bomber shootdown only became notable in that it was the first one you managed to shoot down rather then the first attempted
  • The housing situation was in general far worse than described with the scramble for new homes justified by demographics but in actuality responding to the utter gulf in housing from the Stalin era.
  • The enterprise reforms in 1951 practically formed a radically different environment in the economy, overhauling vast sectors of economic activity. The incentive funds and everything around them were such a massive concessions to enterprises that the private sector was allowed to exist
  • In nearly any other combination of actions outside of presenting it as a combined effort, you would not have much of a private sector as they would have been crushed by enterprise managers
  • This will come back many many many times as the managers consistently prove themselves harsher on private enterprise then anyone on the far left
  • A continued prioritization of rail happened over any reasonable investment in a housing sector not funded by Stalin and devastated by the war, but more railways were built
  • As the plan continued there was a fairly consistent drive to stifle the automotive industry for some reason, cutting out economic growth for reasons unknown to anyone
  • Arguably, this somewhat contributed to Malenkov's downfall and the massive anti-corruption investigations into infrastructure and caused a somewhat common belief that he was being paid off
  • The Grant Program started by Malenkov was hijacked in short order by Voznesensky and the LCI minister, using it as a way to legally greatly increase their influence.
  • Shifting to the so to say national level of lawmaking while maintaining local enforcement didn't help much for businesses until you opened the court system, but somewhat achieved the same effect with less party pressure, if significantly later.
  • Cheap and easy hydroelectric sorta formed the basis for a lot of power in the Western USSR this plan as massive, programs were undertaken to compensate for deficiencies in everything else
  • Mikoyan took the opportunity and the crisis/chaos in the party to force through a politburo vote for a central control commission that was in effect loyal to him with the expectation that it would be his sword to prune the party and state bodies against what he saw as relics of an old inept system
  • This radically changed the balance of power around the state and to an extent gave mikoyan his own proverbial Yezhov, if with a softer touch and no exciting vacations to the Lubyanka basement
  • Also, now comes the passenger rail network, otherwise known as the project you should have canceled or refused to do. You did not have to follow orders and could have theoretically tanked the political cost
  • Now come the big reforms that you are currently dealing with, the guest worker program was to a large extent passed on the backs of the enterprises, the enterprises, and the allies of the enterprises. Every aspect of the law has been built to effectively exploit guest workers and enable the practice, Malenkov to a large extent just did not know better.
  • Dudorov's major reform to the prison system has also happened here, where the prison took on more of a reformist character than ever before. It was still effectively a forced labor system, if one that enabled prisoners to set up with savings and a career after that arguably had more similarities to conscription.
  • Mikoyan blackmailed, investigated and blatantly leaned on the judges involved in later cases, using the legal system as a part of a tool to quell discontent with central authority in the republics and utterly gut the ability of local or republic level ministries to have any economic control with the strong backing of the new party cadres and enterprises
  • If there is absolutely any moment that the tide decisively and entirely turned for the center it was in early 1953 when you gave Mikoyan the tools to finalize what he saw as an improved and regulated form of the Soviet state.
  • Mikoyans first purges in 1953 to 1955 were nearly a second wave of terror, if a far gentler one then Stalin ever attempted and cemented both the new system and practically entirely broke from Stalin era appointments. Those that were loyal advanced alongside state bodies going into the spotlight while enemies were continuously found guilty of corruption and suppressed in effect
  • The first elections placed a nearly unprepared party that was somewhat terrified of being replaced in the face of an aggressive Mikoyan without much protection for the ballot into a vote, doing something approaching a sham election but giving the man justification to enact further reforms and continue exercising what he saw as Stalinist corruption
  • And thus ends the plan with the bonus system scrapped due to pressure by several in the supreme Soviet and a general distaste for administering it from managers, ending Malenkov's first tenure with near absolute power seized by Mikoyan in the state

Malenkov-Mikoyan Era 6th 5yp (1955-1957)

  • Going into the new plan the political environment was radically different to any that came before as the massive centralizations occurring under Mikoyan radically transformed the Soviet Government
  • The selection of an infrastructure-services plan was not in itself a mistake, however you massively over promised and in effect left no surge capacity to do anything
  • This would massively come back to bite you as critical projects piled up and you were unable to respond in a capable manner
  • Focusing on railways was to an extent a forced selection only because of your minister heavily pushing, arguing to Malenkov that there was severe under-investment in the sector
  • Education investments at the time though were massive and comprehensive, something that you are just now starting to reap the rewards of as a new generation with a capable education is graduating in massive numbers
  • Malenkov tilting against the private sector was to a large extent a product of him getting all of his information from enterprises and that being his entire social circle
  • As can be guessed, every pork project was in effect large scale corruption with political allies provided favorable contracts alongside expanding work for enterprises
  • This is also where anti-corruption really picked up and was about as quickly as possible sabotaged through your massive over use of it, with Malenkov unable and somewhat unwilling to properly target it for political gains
  • Even worse, you kept using it consistently and rapidly, leading to most non political corrupt targets finding it far cheaper to pay off the organization instead of actually dealing with it
  • To a large extent this provided all the excuses Voznesensky needed as anti corruption itself was politicized and rendered a rubber stamp for close allies of those with control
  • This of course led to a perception of the agency as the direct action of Malenkov rather than anything politically neutral or even arguably capable of neutrality in any sense, this would come to bite you in the ass later
  • The pension and insurance system developed for a large extent was a major part of early reforms, codifying most of the welfare that was made available with a lot of the changes to public utilities justified as a form of assistance to the elderly
  • The tax brackets established through the ministry of finance as a means of increasing revenue was broadly socially irrelevant, the high bracket got set so high that it was basically meaningless outside a few very rich people in the private sector
  • To a large extent this was deliberate as at the time the richest people were in the enterprises and in charge of them rather than anywhere near the private sector
  • For reasons unknown to me, you then decided to wield this power intensely and directly on the enterprises and to a broader sense several politicians
  • Some immediately tilted and decided that this was a case of racism over central asia but most elements of the party and state thought this was Malenkov cleaning house in the same way as Mikoyan
  • Once the tide started breaking and the enterprises turned on you to a large extent, the downfall was fairly rapid with you to a large extent used as a tool to get at Mikoyan for doing the same thing infinitely more competently
  • The excuses you used to tilt against what were perceived to be internal enemies for good and bad were paralleled to Mikoyan with the question of Stalinism brought up in the context of Mikoyans power grabs
  • Then came the decisive moment where Malenkov realized he over reached significantly and the entire situation was coming down around him
  • Voznesensky took this as the chance to move and strongly as he sought to salvage the ministry as much as possible instead of dealing with or supporting what he saw as an incompetent and inept minister
  • The political turmoil in the immediate aftermath was something of a crisis as Mikoyan to an extent was a second Stalin in power and while he did built a system that could succeed him, he wasn't expecting it to be relevant and doing so until the mid sixties
  • At this point also the plan was not in any sense salvageable or usable as the massive promises placed alongside lagging economic indicators were a major drag on performance
  • Over optimization on rail and education instead of highly productive industries reduced the capabilities on offer and only served to weaken the ministry as Mal arbitrarily wielded an already corrupt anti corruption arm
  • There was to an extent no hope of actually succeeding on the plan at this point and this comprised the reason for why it was entirely tossed as no one expected it to be possible
  • Economic downturn was somewhat guaranteed with Voznesensky inheriting the ministry in something of its weakest hour on the time with the economic situation on fire
  • The later adopted seven year plan was given the excuse of developing the consumer industry but in a large part it was extended and built around making up for the mistakes of the Malenkov era
  • Excessive investment into heavy industry and useless infrastructure was a major drag on the economy with you entering the late fifties with a competent industrial sector but little else as so much of the focus fell to building the base for future productivity
  • When I in casual conversation mention Brezhnev-ing yourselves this is what I mean, as you doubled and tripled down on infrastructure and heavy industry in a race, committing to many promises that you could not fundamentally fulfill
  • Some of these investments would pay off later as Voznesensky shifted to wield them for consumer production but that would take time and not show effects until the mid sixties
  • The private sector and enterprise incentive funds were to a large extent the only reason this era will be remembered positively as you proved mostly unable and unwilling to raise primary consumer indicators focusing as hard as possible on establishing the basis for future production
  • Every single modern right wing and centrist politician you have in quest uses this as justification with the ministries role somewhat clarified through the era as key for raising productive forces but somewhat inept for meeting population needs(you spent less on LCI during the Malenkov era then you did under fucking Stalin)
  • This is also why no one wants to go back to fully planning, because they have seen what you invest in when fully planning and to an extent this is also where the strong drive for cybernetics comes from as logically with an external and effective control mechanism the same mistakes would not be repeated.

As a quick midpoint comparison of Housing and Rail (Credit @Hianny):
Total Dice Under Mal:
housing 36
rail 83 (15 dice being external)
road 18

Total Dice Under Voz:
housing 109
rail 18
roads 20 (300 progress integrated in Moscow)


Author's Note: Generally written with a far more OOC rather than IC perspective on what has happened, to ease catching up.
 
Brezhnev would have loved Mal truly a soldier for the key sectors of Soviet industry. With that said luckily Voz came and fixed this situation can't have Mal actually doing good things by attacking enterprises when there is corruption to be had and an economy to grow.
 
And thats why having an private sector is a good thing, we dont know how to plan for shit, the private sector atleast seeks profitability and grows the economy instead of burning piles of resources on vibes-based planning.
 
Our Mal era private sector was tiny, they had no means of acquiring capital and had to compete with massively entrenched SoEs. So any ideias of leaning on them to compensate for neglected consumer goods growth and freaking out over them existing was very foolish of us.
 
We also apparently hated the average Soviet even more than Stalin considering how little investment we did in the private sector, roads, cars and honestly anything that even looked at consumer industries
 
FACT

99% of socialist states collapse before doing the HI-IN focus one more time and decisively overtaking america and defeating capitalism!​
Verified by loyal breznevite economic planners.

Seriously tho we are never taking a HI focus until the nineties.
 
Honestly I wish blackstar took away the ability for us to do railway projects as the punishment for fucking micro focusing them so much.
She did though!
FACT


99% of socialist states collapse before doing the HI-IN focus one more time and decisively overtaking america and defeating capitalism!​
Verified by loyal breznevite economic planners.


Seriously tho we are never taking a HI focus until the nineties.
I think if we are doing a HI plan in the 90s we are doing something wrong
 
Surprised the commercial cooperatives didn't pick up the slack when it came to the production of consumer goods like they did under Stalin in OTL:

"Commercial cooperatives continued to exist in the USSR until the end of the 1950s and to some extent compensated for the constant shortage of consumer goods. By the end of the 1950s, there were more than 114 thousand workshops and other industrial enterprises in its system, where 1.8 million people worked. They produced 5.9% of the gross output, for example, up to 40% of all furniture, up to 70% of all metal utensils, more than a third of upper knitwear, and almost all children's toys. The system of commercial cooperatives included 100 design bureaus, 22 experimental laboratories, and two research institutes."

Unless we nationalized them like Khrushchev did in OTL?
 
However, the problem is that industrial equipment is needed to produce microcircuits, and this again requires, among other things, steel.

Indeed so. It will be important to maintain investment in pushing forward steel quality while avoiding even more over production.

Not quite - after all, Anglophone managers are more or less pragmatic (unlike post-Soviet neoliberals, who were ready to sell enterprises below market cost (or even give them away for free) in order to eliminate the possible social base of communists), and their burning desire was to increase wages when the "Welfare State" failed after 1973.

This is a good point. The ideological embrace of the ruin of the industrial base came after accidental damage that was retroactively elevated as being good, really.

It seems that the most developed computer industry was in the GDR...

The GDR did have an important electronics industry, but much of its later development was intended to feed Bulgarian computer production since planners could see that no country in the Soviet block could compete with the the highly international American block semiconductor industry without a similarly international approach.

Hence, different countries specializing on different areas and coordinating with their international partners.

This may be more expensive than moving businesses to other countries.

We'll occasionally need to do expensive things for the sake of diplomatic relations.

Like, if we need access to the German computer market to maintain economies of scale to compete with IBM, we're going to have to give Germany some concessions sometimes.

As i understand our coming problem come in multiple form but the main one is wages, currently our intensive industrialization is giving us a significant hedge particularly on area of the economy that demands lots of capital this makes us competitive in international trade with the rest of CMEA who either started developing their industry after us or lost much of it in WW2.

That shouldn't be giving us any advantage in the 1970s. If anything, the industrial facilities of somewhere like Poland should be more modern than our stuff due to the devastation, and better used due to the education of the workforce (as much progress as we've made, Poland is still a generation ahead of us in building a modern education system and Germany is even farthur ahead).

Also, I am sure that proportionally, our economic domination of the rest of the CMEA has been decreasing since WW2, but how useful is having a near monopoly on poverty, compared to having even a small part of the trade of a rich region?

I get the sense that the wage issue is more because China and India are starting to develop industries good enough to put pressure on us.

Our Mal era private sector was tiny, they had no means of acquiring capital and had to compete with massively entrenched SoEs. So any ideias of leaning on them to compensate for neglected consumer goods growth and freaking out over them existing was very foolish of us.

There was a reason to be worried about them getting too strong because in OTL, the private sector that rose after Gorbachev's reforms was dominated by (state) enterprise managers or people connected to them. We couldn't tell how much that was happening under Malenkov. As you say, where do they get capital from? The obvious place is the state enterprises, especially as we were giving them more latitude at the same time.

It seems the actual answer was "don't worry at all" and that the private enterprises were largely politically unconnected to the state enterprises, to the point that the state enterprises freaked out and have been trying to destroy them all ever since.

To be honest, at the time I didn't consider that we could get that lucky. That functional private enterprises did eventually emerge is probably all down to Kosygin. The finance ministry was a close ally of his, and they'd pretty much be the only people who could step into the gap we left and provide capital to the people plugging the gaps we left.

And people keep on fucking saying that we need to do more railways and other shit after all that exploding right into their faces.

Well, sure. Because railways are still hugely important and, worst of all, we have a huge rail stock that will need to be mostly replaced once it ages out. Building so many rails so fast means alot of it will need to be replaced all at once too.

And to maintain the capacity of our rail industries to handle that replacement when it comes due, we need to send them a few projects to keep them ticking over.

We're gonna be dealing with the aftershocks of the imbalanced rail situation for decades to come I am afraid. Having built the Soviet Union around an imbalanced transport infrastructure, much of it will need to be maintained so that the roads and airports that plug into the railroads can operate efficiently. The alternative is that we turn into giant sized Britain.

I recall people basically saying they wanted roads to be as small as possible with rails handling everything. And some people got utterly terrified of any roads being built.

Add to that, some of us (like me) bought into the rosy Stalinist reports about the road network too much.

If there is absolutely any moment that the tide decisively and entirely turned for the center it was in early 1953 when you gave Mikoyan the tools to finalize what he saw as an improved and regulated form of the Soviet state.

Huh. So Mikoyan effectively crushed the SSRs and we have a more centralized system?

Arguably, this somewhat contributed to Malenkov's downfall and the massive anti-corruption investigations into infrastructure and caused a somewhat common belief that he was being paid off

So we built so many rails that people assumed the only possible reason was because Malenkov was in the pocket of the rail enterprises?

Damn.

The political turmoil in the immediate aftermath was something of a crisis as Mikoyan to an extent was a second Stalin in power and while he did built a system that could succeed him, he wasn't expecting it to be relevant and doing so until the mid sixties

So, Malenkov was instrumental in bringing Mikoyan down?

I am a big Kosygin fan, so I will count that as a win.

Of course, bringing Mikoyan down before he could finish centralizing the USSR does mean that the power struggle with Semyonov was entirely our fault. Not only did we make Semyonov go paranoid by having Klimenko go Dr. Stragelove on him, we also are the reason why the institutions were so rickety that we needed to launch a coup against SOMEONE with Balakirev.

Poor Semyonov.

Regards,

fasquardon
 
There was a reason to be worried about them getting too strong because in OTL, the private sector that rose after Gorbachev's reforms was dominated by (state) enterprise managers or people connected to them. We couldn't tell how much that was happening under Malenkov. As you say, where do they get capital from? The obvious place is the state enterprises, especially as we were giving them more latitude at the same time.

It seems the actual answer was "don't worry at all" and that the private enterprises were largely politically unconnected to the state enterprises, to the point that the state enterprises freaked out and have been trying to destroy them all ever since.

To be honest, at the time I didn't consider that we could get that lucky. That functional private enterprises did eventually emerge is probably all down to Kosygin. The finance ministry was a close ally of his, and they'd pretty much be the only people who could step into the gap we left and provide capital to the people plugging the gaps we left.
You don't get a cushy Stalinka and access to consumer goods that are in chronic shortage through the private sector, being a proper manager is a lot more prestigious and arguably got you more benefits than having a million rubles, most of which would be taxed anyway. Jeopardizing that to get into a sector that is very politically contentious and constantly whacked on by the state doesn't make much sense. You'd have to divert a ton of money off your SoE to really succeed and then at the end of the day, what have you gotten?

The early 50s TTL and late 80s OTL are just very different environments, in the latter a lot of people saw the writing on the wall, and decided looting the state was worth any short term risk, and there were just a lot more mechanisms to do financial fuckery then as well. The rewards were also enormous.
 
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Anyway, all of this is hilarious in the context of our latest Deputy vote, where we almost chose as the successor to Balakirev the dude whose only experience in industry was rails. Even the MGB fuckery and Eurasianism aside, its hilarious.
 
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I'm not against maintaining or upgrading our rails, what I'm against is the outrageous delusions and fucking paranoia on the scale of Stalins purges or the USA Red scares against fucking every other form of transportation.
 
We also apparently hated the average Soviet even more than Stalin considering how little investment we did in the private sector, roads, cars and honestly anything that even looked at consumer industries
Sorry, but to build one car you need machines, ore and a bunch of other stuff. And this requires heavy industry, as well as consumer goods. Therefore, although criticism of the emphasis on heavy industry is fair, in the early years of Soviet power this was the most logical step.
And we should be focusing on public transport. Not to mention the environmental and transport damage, and how their cost is higher than most wages. And in general, this is an American nightmare - most European countries even have free zones .
I see there is a prediction for the turn of the century.
 
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