Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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And of course the Caspian being over-estimated by 50% compared to reality is just the tip of the first iceberg we happened to run into among a huge ocean full of them. The really scary part is that probably many other reserves in many other places are ALSO over-estimated so it only goes downhill from here... yeah, we're pretty locked into CI/Services I think.

A possibility that Balakirev should be completely aware of.

I wonder if he would be ready to take a plan that cannot be fulfilled, though not by a large margin, just to make sure the Soviet Union can take steps to prepare itself from the crisis.
Even if it would be us who would decide if it is worth to press that hypothetical button.
 
I don't see how that'll save us. If the reserves are screwed, they're screwed. It can't be outworked with more dice. Our solution is a major deal with Saudi Arabia or Venezuela, combined with enduring the oilshock and reducing usage as much as possible.

It's not to magically find more oil reserves, it's to frantically shift to gas instead of oil. For example:
Chemical Industry:
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(Required for Shale Experiments, Massive Hydraulic Fracturing(Stage 3-8), CNG Vehicle Fuel Conversions(Stage 1-3)
Last time around the proposed CI focus was actually nearly entirely dedicated to new methods for extracting and using natural gas, not oil. I think the trend in fuel markets as well as Bala's increasing internal panic will push a CI focus even farther in that direction than it was 5 years ago. Oil is a lost cause, but we still need a CI focus to try and get off it in favor of gas.
 
I wonder if he would be ready to take a plan that cannot be fulfilled, though not by a large margin, just to make sure the Soviet Union can take steps to prepare itself from the crisis.
Even if it would be us who would decide if it is worth to press that hypothetical button.
No politically feasible plan target is gonna withstand oil shock. Balakirev's hope is he can make sure its as painless as possible if it happens before he can take higher offices so his career doesn't implode. The man that couldn't manage the CMEA wide effects of oil crisis is not going to advance his carreer and he knows it.
 
Yeah we're so late in the game for the oil crisis to STILL not have popped that I consider us pretty much locked into a CI focus, either it's going to happen in the near future and we'll want the extra dice for the crisis reaction or it'll happen post-1985 when global oil consumption is so high that the supply shock causes a near apocalyptic collapse in global shipping. I mean like mass famines and economic collapse as globalized trade shuts down, the later it gets the worse it hits obviously.
What is the probability that Blackstar is just messing with us and the Oilshock just isn't going to materialise?

Looking it up, OTL it happened in 1973, 1990 and 2020. Isn't it just like... entirely possible it doesn't happen?
 
What is the probability that Blackstar is just messing with us and the Oilshock just isn't going to materialise?

Looking it up, OTL it happened in 1973, 1990 and 2020. Isn't it just like... entirely possible it doesn't happen?
We're consuming so much conventional and basic fracking oil that we're approaching critical reserve depletion without the decades of semi-related advancements needed to make heavy fracking and shale oil viable.
 
We're consuming so much conventional and basic fracking oil that we're approaching critical reserve depletion without the decades of semi-related advancements needed to make heavy fracking and shale oil viable.
What is the "shale experiments" and "massive hydraulic fracturing" that we'd be building with a CI focus? I'm assuming it will include some technical development, is the needed technology just fundamentally unworkable with 1980s computers and material science or something?
 
What is the "shale experiments" and "massive hydraulic fracturing" that we'd be building with a CI focus? I'm assuming it will include some technical development, is the needed technology just fundamentally unworkable with 1980s computers and material science or something?
We can achieve some gains in the here and now, but there's only so fast you can push the relevant technologies and, critically...

Shale oil and the extreme form of fracking deliver very expensive oil even nowadays, so they won't be really economical as primary sources until oil prices have well and truly spiked, similar to the arctic oil. Meanwhile, the prices rising up to meet their cost per barrel would definitely entail an oilshock.
 
What is the probability that Blackstar is just messing with us and the Oilshock just isn't going to materialise?

Looking it up, OTL it happened in 1973, 1990 and 2020. Isn't it just like... entirely possible it doesn't happen?
Aside from any meta knowledge about what deposits actually exist as truly extractable with 1980s technology vs. fraud on paper (spoilers: it's a lot of fraud), we can still see an imminent oil crisis coming with purely in-character data. Petroleum fuels demand keeps soaring year-on-year while energy return on investment for oil projects steadily declines, at current trends it will be impossible to extract enough oil to meet demand even if we put all our dice on it within 5 years, or maybe 10 at the hard outside if everything comes up nat 100s.
 
So is this where we take a page out of fallout's world and make nuclear cars?

Trust me, giving random citizens access to mini nuclear reactors will be perfectly fine.
 
So is this where we take a page out of fallout's world and make nuclear cars?
You can make them run on natural gas instead, this is an actual real thing and to this day some cars will still run on liquefied natural gas. And there our gas is so cheap that experiments in that area are being done just because it's actually interesting cost wise, the USSR is actually developing some tech knowledge in the area already. Hopefully the efforts on this can be expanded some more before the shock comes.

Of course if you use gas for all your cars... you'd prefer to not use it as much for things like power generation, as otherwise gas demand might ramp up far to quickly. Thus in a sense why many people think the continued nuclear roll out should continue, one has to generate electricity with something after all. Fortunately as an extra benefit due to how a few rolls with aircons went, the USSR covers much of its heating via heatpump/aircon technology, which is electric. So gas demand from home heating is much more limited then it could have been as well.


Well as such, with insufficient oil there is a need to redistribute where the other fossil fuels go to try and make up for that. And fortunately this is possible... for now. Hopefully the economy soon enough reaches some what developed levels and there isn't as much of a need for far more energy intensive industries anymore.
 
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