Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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Some more optimizations to my plan going live:

1) CI dice in cracking have been redirected towards drilling the Caspian Sea after realizing that the petrochem price will be ok this turn without cracking. This change directly gives us a much improved chance of maintaining Educated Labor wages in their current bracket rather than risking a drop, and produces more Petro Fuels than the cracking plants do so energy independence is more secured to boot. Also uses significantly less electricity.

2) This freed up electricity allows us to put dice into Consumer Electronics for a guaranteed highly profitable project completing in LI this turn, and at a net gain in power cushion too since electronics + Caspian drilling are actually a little less intensive than cracking + twinkies. I think this is preferable to the initial investment I had in Third Generation Food, it's the same profit tier/approximate power usage but guaranteed instead of a coin flip, and much less intensive on petrochems so it allows us to stay in the current +growth bracket.

Overall these changes get more passive growth from favorable price brackets and more direct profits this turn while using approximately the same/slightly less electricity than the original spread. Next turn once the gas power kicks in, the extra money will be quite appreciated for doing some of the more expensive stuff like computers or HI steel sinks. Twinkies will just have to wait a year until we can get more plastic to wrap them in, unfortunately :(
 
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Well, for the record I also prefer light launchers but oh well.
Vote's still open, if a large number of people speak up one way or the other I'm still willing to change it. My philosophy on rocketry is that it's all kinda just playing with pocket change right now, so I'll do whatever the nerds want to keep 'em happy. As long as the Salyut program continues funding I'm pretty agnostic as to which rocket we do to keep the nerds employed.
 
[X] Plan Responsible Resource Regulation

I guess we need to burn coal now to avoid the worst of it later but the material science for better wind power and our eventual nuclear revolution cannot come soon enough.
 
One of the main lessons at least according to a presentation at West Point was that IFVs are useless unless they are as armored as a tank (Something along the lines of Puma and T-15).

Dang. Really? I thought one of the points of an IFV was that it didn't need to be so heavily armoured?

Is the presentation available on youtube at all? It sounds like it would be quite educational.

@Crazycryodude Won't Light Bulk Launcher basically just undercut our mass production of the RLA and thus effectively hurt overall costs? Having many custom variations seems a bit dubious to me at least. Admittedly so far they aren't really going for things like launching two sats on one rocket, at least so far we've heard.

I am not too worried about undercutting the mass production of the RLA just now. We've ordered enough cores that the line making it should be pretty efficient already and it should enjoy strong demand from the military, the space station program and the various probe programs even if a smaller cheaper rocket is available, that should be enough orders to at least maintain the RLA factory's effectiveness. I'd be more worried about the light bulk launcher not being able to find enough payloads to get its own economies of scale up.

But this is where we come back to vibes-based planning.

We have very little idea about the internal factions of the space program and who is using what and why.

For example, is the light bulk launcher a proposal from Korolev's old team trying to upstage Glushko's masterpiece? Is the proposal due to us having a painful lack of light launch capability and we are turning customers away? (We are selling launches to our Intercosmos allies as well as to our own enterprises, so we do have actual customers, even if I think we aren't trying to make a profit on launches.) When did the R7M stop flying? Because that would probably have had a payload capacity under 8 tonnes (I think we figured out what it could boost to orbit, but I have forgotten), so maybe the pressure on the RLA is due to the military not having its own carrier rocket anymore (I think they retired the R7M ages ago tho). And where are we on the coming crash of the launch market?

In OTL, at the end of the 60s the demand for launches contracted sharply in the US due to improvements in satellite technology. The OTL USSR, being more behind, had a more slow decline in launch demand over the course of the 70s. Because we are only just behind the USA in TTL, I think that any declines in demand that are going to happen should have already happened. But maybe I am wrong about that?

Also, since we are probably the biggest commercial launcher in the world, we are very exposed to the oil shock, so how many of the people clamoring to launch 8 tonne sats on RLA-1s will still be there after energy prices shoot up and loans become hard to get?

Basically, I see three possibilities here:

1) The RLA is not able to cover all the launches we are being asked to make, especially at the low end and this demand will continue to be there in the future. The RLA is a shiny train station, the lack of a lighter rocket is the mud roads we aren't noticing. So we need light launch urgently. Especially to maintain the best relations with our allies, since we will likely preferentially turn down their payloads if there is a shortage. Meaning it is more likely for, say, India or China to compete with us in commercial launch, eroding the economies of scale we can enjoy.

2) The RLA is not able to cover all the launches for now, but the bottom is going to drop out of the market soon. So this is a bad time to add a new workhorse.

3) The RLA CAN cover all the launches, the light bulk launcher is just some department playing politics AND the bottom is going to drop out of the market soon. So investing in a rocket becomes an even worse idea.

Funding the light bulk launcher is probably the most conservative play we could make. If we really do have a growing backlog of commercial customers, the LBL would be ready to fly before a space plane would, reducing the chances of anyone being able to effectively compete with us as a launch provider. And if demand drops, well, it wasn't too expensive, and just because it wouldn't really grow our capabilities beyond being able to serve more customers, it would still be practice for our rocket scientists.

And heck, the LBL, being a kerlox rocket is a way to keep our experience with engines like the ones powering the RLA sharp. Everything else is a hydrolox proposal.

But I do kinda worry about being too conservative. I expect the reuseable launcher will take longer to produce results, and the roll will be harder, but shaving off an appreciable amount of the cost/kilo of launch would be a real benefit and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the idea that we are being asked to fund. NASA got really close to making far more ambitious designs work in the 90s before funding got pulled. And Northrop Grumman, Virgin Galactic and Virgin Orbit all made plane launch systems that were less ambitious, but were also developed for far less money than 10 RpY.

The more I think about the choice, the more torn I am.

Now, I do agree with you that the superheavy is the best _rocket_ project to invest in. But I think continuing to iterate with better stations is more useful than the superheavy just now, which due to funding limits leaves us trying to work out what the second best rocket project is.

Well they try to make it sound like that, but they also say 'alongside a more efficient fuselage' which to an extent can be considered pretty close to the lines used for the SLS development model. We'll just modify the design a little, so it's really pretty much the same hardware. But in practise it turns out this required redesigning everything and one having a completely new rocket with pretty much zero parts or machining commonality with the previous rocket. Because well... everything links up to the fuselage and if you change that, you change everything aside of the engine... which they also changed

Completely agree here. The new rocket would be an entirely new rocket, really.

They always are.

On another note, I want to again stump for the variant of my plan that fires the Infra deputy so we have something actually valuable to offer Vorotnikov. A single die on ministry reorganizations is pretty unlikely to get a secondary target like Sokhan and I am pretty convinced at this point that we gotta offer Vorotnikov at least one seat with some genuine power if we want him on our side for cracking the whip over enterprises come the oil crisis.

This is the part of your plan that I am most dubious about. Sokhan's education focus is probably pretty good, since that is still probably the single biggest area of challenge to our service build up. The infra deputy is a conservative right? So why would Vorotnikov want to replace him specifically?

I would much rather Housing Sector Reform and Economic Academnet.

The action under debate uses her first name so it's on my mind, plus the simple and (to a Czech speaker) familar-sounding name Lyudmila sticks in the mind more than Zemlyannikova. Still, I apologize if I made you uncomfortable and I'll stick to her surname in the future.

Uncomfortable? Not at all. I was trying to be helpful based on what I've been taught is good manners in English.

If it isn't helpful, then ignore me with confidence!

Regards,

fasquardon
 
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ut this is where we come back to vibes-based planning.

We have very little idea about the internal factions of the space program and who is using what and why.

For example, is the light bulk launcher a proposal from Korolev's old team trying to upstage Glushko's masterpiece? Is the proposal due to us having a painful lack of light launch capability and we are turning customers away? (We are selling launches to our Intercosmos allies as well as to our own enterprises, so we do have actual customers, even if I think we aren't trying to make a profit on launches.) When did the R7M stop flying? Because that would probably have had a payload capacity under 8 tonnes (I think we figured out what it could boost to orbit, but I have forgotten), so maybe the pressure on the RLA is due to the military not having its own carrier rocket anymore (I think they retired the R7M ages ago tho). And where are we on the coming crash of the launch market?

In OTL, at the end of the 60s the demand for launches contracted sharply in the US due to improvements in satellite technology. The OTL USSR, being more behind, had a more slow decline in launch demand over the course of the 70s. Because we are only just behind the USA in TTL, I think that any declines in demand that are going to happen should have already happened. But maybe I am wrong about that?

Also, since we are probably the biggest commercial launcher in the world, we are very exposed to the oil shock, so how many of the people clamoring to launch 8 tonne sats on RLA-1s will still be there after energy prices shoot up and loans become hard to get?

Basically, I see three possibilities here:

1) The RLA is not able to cover all the launches we are being asked to make, especially at the low end and this demand will continue to be there in the future. The RLA is a shiny train station, the lack of a lighter rocket is the mud roads we aren't noticing. So we need light launch urgently. Especially to maintain the best relations with our allies, since we will likely preferentially turn down their payloads if there is a shortage. Meaning it is more likely for, say, India or China to compete with us in commercial launch, eroding the economies of scale we can enjoy.

2) The RLA is not able to cover all the launches for now, but the bottom is going to drop out of the market soon. So this is a bad time to add a new workhorse.

3) The RLA CAN cover all the launches, the light bulk launcher is just some department playing politics AND the bottom is going to drop out of the market soon. So investing in a rocket becomes an even worse idea.
Ugh, this is indeed a sobering reminder of just how much our planning is trying to read tea leaves. The question of if/when/why the R7M light launcher stopped flying is an intriguing one indeed. Frustrating lack of info about the state of the rocket launch market. How close would Chinese or Indian industry be to potentially making a competitor?

This is the part of your plan that I am most dubious about. Sokhan's education focus is probably pretty good, since that is still probably the single biggest area of challenge to our service build up. The infra deputy is a conservative right? So why would Vorotnikov want to replace him specifically?
Beyond the education focus, Sokhan also keeps the department reminded that "Services" in fact involves more than just small shop profit-maxxing. If we're lucky we'll get someone similarly focused on less shiny services to become the new deputy, but best not bank on it.
 
This is the part of your plan that I am most dubious about. Sokhan's education focus is probably pretty good, since that is still probably the single biggest area of challenge to our service build up. The infra deputy is a conservative right? So why would Vorotnikov want to replace him specifically?

I would much rather Housing Sector Reform and Economic Academnet.
Vorotnikov doesn't specifically want him gone, but Balakirev wants him gone and then an empty seat in charge of our consistently largest sector is a decent enough prize to offer Vorotnikov if the seat is open anyways due to Bala settling personal beefs.

Housing Reform I worry would be too much additional Infra requirements at the moment, and Economic Academnet is on the docket but I'd like to actually have mature telephone networking infrastructure to build it on first rather than pulling the trigger prematurely. Hence the Services project to build out the phone/fax network first.
 
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Dang. Really? I thought one of the points of an IFV was that it didn't need to be so heavily armoured?

Is the presentation available on youtube at all? It sounds like it would be quite educational.

Yes it is on YouTube, this part of the presentation starts 38:38 and ends ~42:00.

Perhaps saying 'useless' was too strong of a word.

Nonetheless, I think the title of the slide states it well in that tanks need support from equally survivable IFVs.

Not only the conflict in Donbas showed this need for HIFVs but also the earlier Chechnya conflicts resulting in the BTR-T which was unfortunately cancelled.
 
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In OTL, at the end of the 60s the demand for launches contracted sharply in the US due to improvements in satellite technology. The OTL USSR, being more behind, had a more slow decline in launch demand over the course of the 70s. Because we are only just behind the USA in TTL, I think that any declines in demand that are going to happen should have already happened. But maybe I am wrong about that?
What few quotes we got along the way on launch utilization seem to imply that we've managed to keep the RLA manufacturing line running at some where near to max production rates. Possibly with a probe heavy space program, while at the same time inviting in allies and our rapidly expanding economy, have helped offset any decline that there might have been.

For all I know our rates actually went slowly up over the period and there was some plant expansion done by the manufacturer themselves, as that is something they could do these days.

I suppose we could ask if @Blackstar is willing to share a bit of information on what the actual state of the launch market is these days. As surely the Minister has some idea on it. Though considering none of the briefs mentioned any launch bottlenecks, I'd cautiously posit that there currently isn't a major launch deficit.
Also, since we are probably the biggest commercial launcher in the world, we are very exposed to the oil shock, so how many of the people clamoring to launch 8 tonne sats on RLA-1s will still be there after energy prices shoot up and loans become hard to get?
I guess my first thought is the question if the USSR or its CMEA allies use loans much for space launch if at all? Or if it is mostly state backed funding that doesn't care nearly as much about such matters. Certainly the rocket costs won't change much over fuel prices as that is less then 1% of the rockets cost I thought. So in that sense the oil shock won't change rocket costs at all really, the only question being how funding is mostly happening.
 
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I suppose we could ask if @Blackstar is willing to share a bit of information on what the actual state of the launch market is these days. As surely the Minister has some idea on it. Though considering none of the briefs mentioned any launch bottlenecks, I'd cautiously posit that there currently isn't a major launch deficit.
There isn't a true bottleneck in the sense of you not being able to launch payloads just quite a few are flown sub-optimally on a RLA that's not loaded down as its cheaper to continue full production. The R-7M has been retired in favor of the RLA and ICBM based launcher which you use intermittently for the lightest LEO payloads. China, France, and the UK have some independent launch capacity but nothing big with you and the US the big two in the launch/space industry.
 
Cannon Omake: The Harvest Crusader: In memorium of Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev (1894-1971) New
Here is my first obituary omake, it's called "The Harvest Crusader: In memorium of Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev (1894-1971)". I hope you will like it.

This September 11, at the age of 77, the prominent agronomist and member emeritus of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev died.
He will be remembered as an example of proletarian success thanks to the Party's wise policies to create a truly socialist state: this son of rural laborers in the Ukrainian Soviet Republic worked in the fields in the Donbass before proudly serving in the Red Army as a political clerk from the summer of 1918 until the proclamation of the Soviet Union. He was subsequently elected to the Routchenkovo Workers' Council in January 1924, becoming its Chairman in May 1925. Alongside his position as Chairman of the Workers' Council, he studied agronomy at the National Agricultural University in Voronezh from 1926 until obtaining his doctorate in 1933.
Endowed with uncommon strength of character and remarkable managerial qualities, Nikita Sergeyevich was involved in all the battles of Soviet agriculture: after participating in the establishment of Siberian agricultural zones during the war, he returned to Ukraine in 1944 to take part in the agricultural revival of the Soviet republic, and finally had the opportunity to test his latest agronomic discoveries by advising farmers during the Virgin Lands campaign until 1958.
Having acquired this wealth of field experience, he decided to devote the rest of his career to teaching, teaching at the Kursk Agricultural Institute from 1960 until his retirement in 1968.
The Institute would like to pay tribute to this scientist, whose discoveries on the effects of radiation on growth and the genetic modification of seeds were of immense service to Soviet agriculture.
All his pupils would also like to pay tribute to a teacher whose energy motivated many students in difficulty to continue their studies and obtain their diplomas. This earned him the affectionate nickname of "Mr. K", while his colleagues praised his sense of responsibility and integrity, political wisdom, multifaceted erudition and personal charm.
These personal qualities earned him great public confidence, recognition from his academic and Party peers, and authority among university students.
The bright memory of Nikita Sergueïevitch Khrouchtchev will remain in the hearts of his associates and comrades, and will become a notable page in the history of the soviet agriculture.

Obituary published in the monthly journal of the Kursk Institute of Agronomy
 
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You know, thinking about it each of the rocket development proposals is for different purposes.

- Reusable, lets make a space plane light launcher that can also carry a person to orbit and is even reusable. Obviously aiming at the light market while trying to be cheap.
- Light bulk launcher, we think having an all newly designed RLA like rocket but a bit smaller is a good idea to address some of the market more efficiently. This will take some of the RLA market share away, but we think this is worth it.
- Heavy Launcher, The RLA-3 is pretty great, but a lot of those missions are really burning to other planets and Kerosene is one of the worst fuels for higher speeds needed to get to other planets. How about we make a heavy rocket replacement that uses a fuel more suitable for high speed burns to other planets, like Hydrogen, and give it a larger fairing so one can more easily fit such large probes. As that way we can in practise actually be able to send larger and more capable probes to them.
- Super Heavy, We think there is a need for a larger launcher then currently exists, so we can do missions currently impossible to do with out a true super heavy. And to try and keep costs down a bit and not have to develop a highly advanced hydrogen engine, we'll try to make reusable RLA boosters to get it going.
 
Vote is going to be called given the 2x lead and ideally I can get a update out this weekend before classes kill my spirit and desire to exist:

[X] Plan Responsible Resource Regulation Resulting in Resignations
-[X]6610/6655 Resources (45 Reserve), 48 Dice Rolled
--[X]Continue Current Measures (200 R)
-[X]Infrastructure (7/5 Dice, 1055 R)
--[x]Western Local Roads(Stage 1/2), 2 Dice (280 R), 0%/2%
--[x]Western Deepwater System Updates, 1 Dice (140 R), 15%/30%
--[X]Moscow Renovation Program, 1 Dice (140 R), 26%/41%
--[x]Grid Stabilization and Expansion, 3 Dice (495 R), 80%/87%
-[X]Heavy Industry (2/5 Dice, 380 R)
--[X]Kansk-Achinsk Basin Exploitation(Stage 5/5), 2 Dice (380 R), 57%/70%
-[x]Rocketry (2/2 Dice, 0 R)
--[x]Reusable Launchers, 1 Dice
--[X]Expanded Station Programs, 1 Dice
-[X]Light Industry (8/12 Dice, 1705 R)
--[x]Microcomputer Plants(Stage 2/4), 1 Dice (285 R), 100%/100%
--[X]Consumer Electronics Plants(Stage 2/3), 2 Dice (420 R), 100%/100%
--[x]Modernization of Home Electronics, 1 Dice (250 R), 41%/56%
--[X]Housing Renovation Components, 1 Dice (160 R), 16%/31%
--[x]Durable Goods Program, 2 Dice (380 R), 77%/86%
--[X]Electronic Entertainment Programs, 1 Dice (210 R), 41%/56%
-[X]Chemical Industry (4/4 Dice) 720R
--[X]Intensive Development of the Caspian(Stage 1-6), 2 Dice (380 R), 91%/96%
--[X]Central Asian Gas Fields(Stage 1/3), 2 Dice (340 R), 100%/100%
-[x]Agriculture (6/4 Dice, 780 R)
--[x]Development of the Middle Volga, 1 Dice (130 R), 35%/50%
--[x]Development of the Southern Volga, 2 Dice (260 R), 77%/86%
--[x]Development of the Dnieper, 2 Dice (260 R), 33%/47%
--[x]Development of the Upper Ob, 1 Dice (130 R), 16%/31%
-[X]Services (13/11 Dice, 1770 R)
--[x]Telephone Use Programs, 2 Dice (340 R), 77%/86%
--[x]Enterprise Support Services(Stage 3/3), 1 Dice (130 R), 68%/83%
--[X]Expansion of the Postage System, 3 Dice (450 R), 82%/89%
--[X]Storage-Distribution Networks(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (330 R), 98%/99%
--[x]Distribution of Professional Services, 2 Dice (260 R), 77%/86%
--[x]Population Distribution Programs(Stage 2/5), 2 Dice (260 R), 96%/99%
-[x]Bureaucracy (8/8 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Dedicate Focus Towards a Project(Intensive Development of the Caspian), 1 Dice
--[X]Dedicate Focus Towards a Project(Central Asian Gas Fields), 1 Dice
--[X]Continue Labor Reforms, 1 Dice
--[x]Talks with Vorotnikov, 1 Dice
--[x]Expand the Energy Security Commission, 1 Dice
--[x]Microcomputer Adoption, 1 Dice
--[X]Ministerial Structural Reforms, 1 Dice
--[x]Cancel Green Energy Programs, 1 Dice

Rolling
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 640
27 27 80 80 72 72 91 91 49 49 12 12 83 83 73 73 33 33 38 38 7 7 75 75
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 538
23 23 67 67 24 24 1 1 7 7 49 49 45 45 100 100 24 24 98 98 87 87 13 13
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 660
36 36 97 97 30 30 40 40 87 87 48 48 63 63 84 84 2 2 45 45 39 39 89 89
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 475
8 8 29 29 23 23 26 26 93 93 90 90 26 26 51 51 4 4 2 2 42 42 81 81
Blackstar threw 9 100-faced dice. Reason: Internal Dice Total: 397
7 7 77 77 82 82 47 47 53 53 9 9 18 18 49 49 55 55
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: External Dice Total: 644
33 33 44 44 67 67 80 80 63 63 20 20 91 91 85 85 46 46 44 44 42 42 29 29
Blackstar threw 5 100-faced dice. Reason: Plauge(S/U/R/V/I) low bad :3 Total: 284
70 70 75 75 68 68 50 50 21 21
 
Dang. Really? I thought one of the points of an IFV was that it didn't need to be so heavily armoured?
To be fair, just because someone did a presentation on the subject at West Point claiming that X is true, doesn't mean that X is true. Furthermore, X may be true in the context of the 2025-era battlefield (cheap ubiquitous top-attack antitank missiles) and not be true in the context of the 1980-era battlefield (antitank missiles exist but are a lot more temperamental and rare).

"Armored against autocannon but not guided missiles" is a much more viable niche right now than it will be in forty years, but if the USSR continues to function as a polity, then the problems of what fighting vehicles we need for 2020 or 2025 will be at least one more major design generation into the future.
 
The sixteenth die is a 1 and the twentieth die is a 100...

I THINK that means the 1 falls on Housing Renovation Components and the 100 falls on Intensive Development of the Caspian.
 
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Oh shit I think Bala's "crit on 1-3" just got us a critfail on microcomputer adoption! That is... very bad. Not such much for the direct effects, as for the broader implications of there now being a powerful force in the ministry opposing modernization. Hopefully this does not delete the academic network option too.

Otherwise we critfailed Housing Renovation Components (likely not a big loss), and critically succeeded on the Caspian oil rigs (very nice).
 
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