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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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DONT YOU DARE ESCALATE ANY FUCKING FURTHER. At all. Whatever the French demand , do it IMMIDIATELY. Stop any support to rebels? Got it. Cut all ties with Gadaffi? Of course! Recognise french sovereignty over the entirety of Algeria? Right that moment , sir! French-wouldnt-go-to-war-over-algerie-trust-me-bro geopolitical geniuses should probably shove their opinions about how backing down is the great sin and that algerian independence is more important the entirety of human civilisation down their opinion generators
 
Anyway, look on the bright side, our budget might be down a couple thousand R due to mobilization and economic related snafus, but our electricity problems are gone! That's like 500 R we won't have to spend on manual power plants this turn lmao
 
I mean, I think we're in a good position still, y'all are dooming over nothing. There'll be a crisis, well strongarming France a bit (even if we don't get a shooting war, alas) and then we end in a stronger position. Nothing bad has happened.

This has put us in a better position, France is embarrassed and weakened. Now is the time to push diplomatically. We probably can't get them to fuck out of Algeria (though with this and continued support I don't think their hold has long left) but we can get a damn lot. Now is not the time for half measures. Stick to the course and keep up the pressure
 
Ultrackius said:
I mean, I think we're in a good position still, y'all are dooming over nothing. There'll be a crisis, well strongarming France a bit (even if we don't get a shooting war, alas) and then we end in a stronger position. Nothing bad has happened.

This has put us in a better position, France is embarrassed and weakened. Now is the time to push diplomatically. We probably can't get them to fuck out of Algeria (though with this and continued support I don't think their hold has long left) but we can get a damn lot. Now is not the time for half measures. Stick to the course and keep up the pressure
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If we push this France uses Nukes because of their Doctrine and the Quest ends.
 
Look on the bright side, the sudden American trade war that this triggered has reduced our fuel consumption and prematurely popped the Construction Bubble. We are set to glide through the Oilshock Crisis by dint of not being able to afford fuel in the first place.
 
KingCrimson1081 said:
Any abandoned mines we can turn into nuclear fallout bunkers?
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No need unless the supsov freak out and we're made to. I sure hope they don't that'd be a pain and a half

Acc. No. 1409 said:
If we push this France uses Nukes because of their Doctrine and the Quest ends.
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If we invade France they use nukes. If we push the subject to extract concessions from them we're fine. This has given us the perfect opportunity to destroy their international image, weaken their position, and gain victory in Algeria. After all, they fired on us
 
This has been a lesson for all of us who voted to escalate(including me)that maybe we should look at our information and analyse the information for biases both the characters and our own, and that maybe owning the French isn't reason enough to escalate
 
Ultrackius said:
No need unless the supsov freak out and we're made to. I sure hope they don't that'd be a pain and a half


If we invade France they use nukes. If we push the subject to extract concessions from them we're fine. This has given us the perfect opportunity to destroy their international image, weaken their position, and gain victory in Algeria. After all, they fired on us
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All this would do is result in WW3 and nuclear Armageddon
 
SithM said:
This has been a lesson for all of us who voted to escalate(including me)that maybe we should look at our information and analyse the information for biases both the characters and our own, and that maybe owning the French isn't reason enough to escalate
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You're correct but have you considered that this was the funniest outcome
 
Ultrackius said:
If we invade France they use nukes. If we push the subject to extract concessions from them we're fine. This has given us the perfect opportunity to destroy their international image, weaken their position, and gain victory in Algeria. After all, they fired on us
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Unfortunately, we cannot prove to the international community that what the French are calling a "warning" shot was actually them missing because they are terrible sailors. it was actually a warning shot for real, though.
 
Crazycryodude said:
Because that's been the entirety of this quest? Like the entire theme since Turn 1 in 1928 is biased or missing information leading us into (historically accurate!) bad decisions. "Well it seemed like a good idea at the time..." is practically the tagline of this quest.
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When you phrase it like that, I wish I had membership still, because if I did, I would absolutely submit that as a tag for the thread.
 
also, we have it in discord that America is pissed at France and wants to deescalte. We're in a perfect position to get a few concessions as all this resolves. Hold the course my friends, and do not give in to the fear of the paper tiger
 
Question: Did the outcome of the naval battle actually matter or were those rolls just for flavor? If I understand correctly, what happened was that the USSR fired first? God dang. We were all wondering about the French, none of us considered the possibility of our own admiral screwing up. Which is diplomatically an EVEN WORSE position than France starting shit.

Welp, time to cut our losses, and by "our losses" I mean the entirety of africa and every hawk in the Supreme Soviet. When Seymonov asks us how important the resources of East and North Africa are to the construction of socialism, tell him "NOT AT ALL" no matter how hard you must lie.

Vi'Talzin said:
Anyway, look on the bright side, our budget might be down a couple thousand R due to mobilization and economic related snafus, but our electricity problems are gone! That's like 500 R we won't have to spend on manual power plants this turn lmao
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What do you mean by no electricity problems? You mean the mobilization stopping private sector growth?
 
General_Urist said:
What do you mean by no electricity problems? You mean the mobilization stooping private sector growth?
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Yup, that + SoE growth and our budget taking a massive hit meaning we don't complete as many electricity consuming projects should mean we are pretty safe. Though obviously we should do the math to make sure during planmaking.
 
Ultrackius said:
also, we have it in discord that America is pissed at France and wants to deescalte. We're in a perfect position to get a few concessions as all this resolves. Hold the course my friends, and do not give in to the fear of the paper tiger
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The USA is maybe pissed at France and definitely wants to deescelate. The USSR is not in a position to demand concessions considering they escalated this mess to the point that Atomics use became frighteningly likely.
 
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