And What a Dance it Was (NO SV, War is Coming, Prepare)

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Fanhunter696 said:
And to be fair that damnation was really fueled by Danzo/Otto, Alicent and the rest of the Greens...
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I wonder what factions will form vying for the hand of Prince Baelon this time... That if he also doenst feel inspired by Lucien own wedding and decide to adhere the Old Gods of Valaryia.

The line of sucession its currently like this I guess: Baelon, Rhaenyra (followed by her own children) , Daemon, the Twins (and their possible children given that being born of Rhae they will be old enough to marry and have child depending when the Dance Starts), depending on legality issue Rhaenys the Queen who never was followed by her children (and possible granchildren), Lucien followed by his own children, with Rhaenyra's having the strongest claim, followed by child via Laena (combined claim of Rhaenys) and Alicent (Not Targ blood except Lucien).

Edit: And if shit happens: Visanya, the Triplets, Gael and by the end Aegor and siblings, saying nothing about Saera kids. (To you see how long the list is, even Visanya has a better claim than Lucien own being born of Baelon and Vissara if she was given the name.)
 
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Ghost in the sun said:
PS: EVERYONE WE HAVE LUCIEN BANNER BUT WE FORGOT THE WORDS! Since are creating a new line for House Targ, I guess we will need one.
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I don´t think so...

On ASOIF we have seen members of the same family modify their personal banner/crest (while remaining thematically and aesthetically consistent with the crest of their family) to be more easily distinguished in tourneys or in battle...

But I don't think that it is that common to change the motto of the house, and Lucien is a Targaryen, we have not created our own house like Aegon's Great Bastards...
Ghost in the sun said:
I wonder what factions will form vying for the hand of Prince Baelon this time... That if he also doenst feel inspired by Lucien own wedding and decide to adhere the Old Gods of Valaryia.

The line of sucession its currently like this I guess: Baelon, Rhaenyra (followed by her own children) , Daemon, the Twins (and their possible children given that being born of Rhae they will be old enough to marry and have child depending when the Dance Starts), depending on legality issue Rhaenys the Queen who never was followed by her children (and possible granchildren), Lucien followed by his own children, with Rhaenyra's having the strongest claim, followed by child via Laena (combined claim of Rhaenys) and Alicent (Not Targ blood except Lucien).

Edit: And if shit happens: Visanya, the Triplets, Gael and by the end Aegor and siblings, saying nothing about Saera kids. (To you see how long the list is, even Visanya has a better claim than Lucien own being born of Baelon and Vissara if she was given the name.)
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Well, and this is why we have had so many Dynastic Wars during the Middle Ages... And in the case of the Targaryens we have to add polygamy and incest to the mix...

And seeing how fucking long and tangled the Targaryens have become, if we end up having succession mumbo jumbo the most practical and sane way of choosing the bew King would be by drawing straws :V
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
And seeing how fucking long and tangled the Targaryens have become, if we end up having succession mumbo jumbo the most practical and sane way of choosing the bew King would be by drawing straws :V
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Yes, the number of Targs will only rise in Geometric Progression until the Dance starts with all of the possible marriages, births until it.

Rhae and Baela being twins only increase the chances of birthing twins, Magoose infamous multiple births...
 
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Ghost in the sun said:
Edit: And if shit happens: Visanya, the Triplets, Gael and by the end Aegor and siblings, saying nothing about Saera kids. (To you see how long the list is, even Visanya has a better claim than Lucien own being born of Baelon and Vissara if she was given the name.)
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Well there will be no Mom becoming a Targaryen, for the simple fact that she does not know, nor care for politics.

And that there are many things that are now in play that weren't.
Fanhunter696 said:
Well, and this is why we have had so many Dynastic Wars during the Middle Ages... And in the case of the Targaryens we have to add polygamy and incest to the mix...

And seeing how fucking long and tangled the Targaryens have become, if we end up having succession mumbo jumbo the most practical and sane way of choosing the bew King would be by drawing straws :V
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Well this succession war is going to be very interesting, considering that...

Well, you'll see. and it will be very very bloody.
Ghost in the sun said:
Yes, the number of Targs will only rise in Geometric Progression until the Dance starts with all of the possible marriages, births until it.

Rhae and Baela being twins only increase the chances of birthing twins, Magoose infamous multiple births...
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Yep.

I'm fully prepared to start murdering everyone once that Dance begins, like I have a list of people who need to die.

And I will love it.
 
Magoose said:
like I have a list of people who need to die.
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Oh dammit, well it was nice to meet everyone in the prelude of the Dance.

Hope my favourites dont die, dice bless everyone.

Edit: Viserys is obviously on the list, dunno about other people... Perhaps Rhaenyra too? Muddying the claims in case of Baelon being a horrible ruler so its Uncle vs Nephews and Nieces vs Cousins vs Siblings vs Aunties.
 
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Alexander Sturnn said:
Not that there is any actual danger of that, because @Magoose is not a Railroader. Just needed to say that.
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I was very afraid that you were calling me a railroader when my quests are anything but.

Also: If you belive that i am not afraid of killing people right now...

Well you would be very mistake.

Lots of people right now are hurt.

But no one died. Yet.
 
Magoose said:
I was very afraid that you were calling me a railroader when my quests are anything but.

Also: If you belive that i am not afraid of killing people right now...

Well you would be very mistake.

Lots of people right now are hurt.

But no one died. Yet.
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Well, yeah, when bad rolls happen, they happen. But what I meant was that you would designate some Characters to die no matter what happens and how well they do/roll in the future and they are just doomed no matter what.
Which, of course, you wouldn't, but one could get the wrong impression with the way you phrased things.
 
Magoose said:
Well, you'll see. and it will be very very bloody.
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Well, at the bare minimum we will have 3 times more dragon riders involved in the conflict so there is that...

And if the new age of heroes is truly beginning, the things can get even worse... May you live interest times and all that.

Magoose said:
Yep.

I'm fully prepared to start murdering everyone once that Dance begins, like I have a list of people who need to die.

And I will love it.
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Well, seeing how the Dance ended up with exactly 3 Targaryen left alive I can't say that I am surprised...

BUT I hope that we can prevent at least some of those deaths, especially of our loved ones...
 
Oh and one more thing:

We're going to have a lot of fun, taking over the stepstones.

if you call taking over castles and using dragon fire fun? :V
 
This is a lot of people first time killing in this war. So wouldn't be surprised that some of the younger people are gonna be affected. For example Rhaenyra. She was never prepared for something like this. Burning people and castles with her dragon. And she asked for this so fun times ahead.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
I mean burning people alive is not the definition of fun for most sane individuals...

But then again, Targaryens were never the most sane of the families...
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We're among the sanest Targaryen generation since the conquest.

And that is saying something great about how one considers the conquerer and his sisters… were.

mrsean22 said:
This is a lot of people first time killing in this war. So wouldn't be surprised that some of the younger people are gonna be affected. For example Rhaenyra. She was never prepared for something like this. Burning people and castles with her dragon. And she asked for this so fun times ahead.
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Well she has some… disassociation she does…

It's not her killing. It's Syrax doing the work.

Her hands are clean… and Syrax dosent see what she's killing as people, only ants that try to hurt her.

At least, thats what helps her sleep at night.
 
Magoose said:
Well she has some… disassociation she does…

It's not her killing. It's Syrax doing the work.

Her hands are clean… and Syrax dosent see what she's killing as people, only ants that try to hurt her.

At least, thats what helps her sleep at night.
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Oh so she doesn't say a certain word that basically means telling her dragon to burn people? :V

More seriously yeah trying to make herself feel better.....Probably not the right way to do it though. That line of thinking can easily lead to not good places.
 
mrsean22 said:
More seriously yeah trying to make herself feel better.....Probably not the right way to do it though. That line of thinking can easily lead to not good places.
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Well, since her main reason for joining the conquest of the stepstones was as a way to cope wit the death of poor Aemma... Well, it wasn´t a healthy way of grieving then and it isn´t one now, and the same can be said about how it is coping with killing... But as Rick said.

View: https://youtu.be/Y7WXC_MT69A?t=32

But what can we do? It is not like there are any therapists in at this point in time, and the few people that can be considered as something close of a therapist in ASOIF won´t be born at least for a century or more...
 
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mrsean22 said:
More seriously yeah trying to make herself feel better.....Probably not the right way to do it though. That line of thinking can easily lead to not good places
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Just because she says the words dosent mean she's picking and choosing targets deliberately she's let's her flamethrower she rides on do all the work.

And I am fully ready for consequences to start rolling in because of it.

Rhaenyra isn't equipped in training or in temperament for prolonged warfare.

And this war will be long, if not bloody.
Fanhunter696 said:
But what can we do? It is not like there are any therapists in at this point in time, and the few people that can be considered as something close of a therepist in ASOIF won´t be born at least for a century or more
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I am of the opinion of the only thing we can do…

Being there… and otherwise being us when things are needing to happen involving the princess and our wife.
 
Magoose said:
I am of the opinion of the only thing we can do…

Being there… and otherwise being us when things are needing to happen involving the princess and our wife.
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Well, that is obvious... We can be there as his husband, old friend, and father of her children... Not only that, but it is the least we can do.

I was speaking about finding someone like Septon Meribald or brother Ray who know really well how to help people to work their way through trauma and depression in a healthy manner... But I don´t think that somone like them is avaible in this age, and the chances of being able to leanr that are basically zero (not much literature about that avaible)
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Well, that is obvious... We can be there as his husband, old friend, and father of her children... Not only that, but it is the least we can do.

I was speaking about finding someone like Septon Meribald or brother Ray who know really well how to help people to work their way through trauma and depression in a healthy manner... But I don´t think that somone like them is avaible in this age, and the chances of being able to leanr that are basically zero (not much literature about that avaible)
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I mean… Vaegon isn't like Meribald or ray… but he can help a little bit… maybe?
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Interesting, maybe we can convince him to put on hold his Indiana Jones Adventures for a few moths and help her niece.
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I mean he's an archmaester, he may not be the man in medicine (last I checked his particular chain was in economics) but like most maesters he's been trained in numerous skills.
 
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