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Everyone needs to calm the fuck down. This state of affairs has existed for millenia, and it won't suddenly end all existence tomorrow just because we failed to throw enough troops at it.
We don't matter to this conflict, at least not yet (and not militarily).
This doesn't change our order of priorities much, just our long-term plans.
And QMs, way to make Planetosi threats like the Others and the Empire of the Dawn more important again![Big Grin :D :D](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
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Honestly I'm against even trying.
It's already been established that there are spells and items that can effortlessly take control of most Constructs, and I expect various artefacts or mighty rituals to work even better (huge range, etc).
It's been a fixture of the setting that Construct armies don't work, and DP explicitly said that he didn't want us to create any last time we asked.
We don't we ally with Asmodeus? Surely he'd help us!
Maybe, but he'd be a bigger problem than a help, so we won't.
Same sort of reasoning for the Seven.
Yes, I called it ages ago.
This is clearly a path to immortality for Greenseers, and a way for the souls of all to avoid Hell.
![Big Grin :D :D](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
However, please don't try to push the 15th into the Void.
That would effectively give the Void a sympathetic connection to us and to our blood, and I don't want the Void linked to everything Valyrian.
We don't matter to this conflict, at least not yet (and not militarily).
This doesn't change our order of priorities much, just our long-term plans.
And QMs, way to make Planetosi threats like the Others and the Empire of the Dawn more important again
This would have been amazing though. Imagine being able to make Celestials Fall on command?For a moment the Deva lowers his head and for a heartbeat you fear to see a repeat of Yrael's fall.
Yes. You're opening a huge can of worms here. Why isn't everyone else doing this ?Objections to temporally enhanced Greater Demiplane for accelerated crafting?
Honestly I'm against even trying.
Everyone, no Construct armies. DP will punish us if we try.Also, I want to design a scaled down Wyvern, one with less features and no living pilot, but instead a purpose built Construct. A great deal of expense can be eliminated if they don't need life support and don't have Planar travel capabilities of their own.
They can be transported the traditional way, or hitch rides on Moonchaser and similar craft. I'll have to look into the numbers when I get home this evening, but we should be able to produce several for the price of a single Wyvern.
It's already been established that there are spells and items that can effortlessly take control of most Constructs, and I expect various artefacts or mighty rituals to work even better (huge range, etc).
It's been a fixture of the setting that Construct armies don't work, and DP explicitly said that he didn't want us to create any last time we asked.
I will ally with Asmodeus in a heartbeat so long as we can make that Void go away.
Again, I'm against this. Very much against this.Pretty much, though the pilot Construct would be distinct from the drone craft.
That is a cost saving measure and a way to allow the craft to be enchanted separately from the pilot Constructs.
It would be nice if each Wyvern had a flight of three or four drones as wingmen. I'm gonna call them Drakes for now.
Things aren't FUBAR though. Not at all. This slow decay of the upper planes has been going on for eons, and isn't over yet. Fighting the Seven looks like it sucks now, but we're also saving other Gods so that's less of an issue. It's also an important strategic objective for us.Yeah. We've been taking things carefully - for good reasons - but the situation is officially FUBAR and we need every asset we can possibly enlist. I imagine we're going to have to swallow our bile and make some concessions - this dumb slap-fight with the Seven, for instance. There's no reason for them to be locked out of the loop, and if getting them tentatively on board means letting the Faith Militant reform ...
We don't we ally with Asmodeus? Surely he'd help us!
Maybe, but he'd be a bigger problem than a help, so we won't.
Same sort of reasoning for the Seven.
[Waves hand in the air]Also, anyone else suspect the OG might have been created by ancient mortals who were seeking a place to keep their souls rather than trusting them to end up somewhere other than Hell or the sucking black pit that used to be Heaven?
Yes, I called it ages ago.
This is clearly a path to immortality for Greenseers, and a way for the souls of all to avoid Hell.
I was thinking of massive Epic HP-bags here. Sure optimally we'd just Avasculate, but this is Richard's Epic Sword and it should be good for killing Colossal+ sized living mountainsAgainst a target with an even con score, wounding deals damage equal to its HD.
Nowhere near hundreds of points, unless the target has hundreds of hp.
Against an odd score, it doesn't even deal damage.
Don't see the issue of getting another, what, 15-20 HP out of it, half the time he lands a crit.
I think they meant "what if someone uses the tree to harm the OG", which is always possible on the Plane of Balance anyway.Bloodraven already said the Plane of Earth should be fine for a start.
However, please don't try to push the 15th into the Void.
That would effectively give the Void a sympathetic connection to us and to our blood, and I don't want the Void linked to everything Valyrian.