Well the Brass Coin plan will collapse the market and release the souls at least. At that point I think we need our gods to be ready to coax them into their divine realms and such. As for literally all of our plans...well they have fucking upended and need to be sped up now. That is lovely. I am greatly happy now.
 
@Duesal you need to not fucking ask him to play tour guide. His job is EVEN more important now and your taking him away from it for an INCREDIBLY pointless reason.
We're taking him away from it for at most a few hours for a strategic reason. We're trying to establish ties with the last remnant of Heaven and discuss possible solutions. His input will be important for that. Also he's a known face there, so him being with us will probably make the inhabitants less nervous about seeing us.
Just a reminder, the Trees are a conduit to the OG, we might want to be a little careful where we plant them.
Bloodraven already said the Plane of Earth should be fine for a start.
 
Well the Brass Coin plan will collapse the market and release the souls at least. At that point I think we need our gods to be ready to coax them into their divine realms and such
...Huh.
All those souls...
And Merling Kind is dealing with them.
I think... We might just want to have all our gods take part in ritual, and keep the souls safe-ish.
 
We're taking him away from it for at most a few hours for a strategic reason. We're trying to establish ties with the last remnant of Heaven and discuss possible solutions. His input will be important for that. Also he's a known face there, so him being with us will probably make the inhabitants less nervous about seeing us.
A known face is definitely an overstatement. He is aware of the general lay of the land, since he needs to coax the petitioners to form in a place where they are not immediately murdered by something.
 
They have already stamped out lesser rebellions.

Remember the example made of ssome rebellious Fire Giants?

I don't know the strategic situation well enough to be sure, so I have no idea if the generals of the Sultan will decide that they can spare the troops to clean up their backyard and secure the flow of ressources from there, but it's definitly a possibility.

The point when we can actually ensure the security of a Tree for the Salamander is when the City itself is under siege, not one day earlier.
We know the war isn't going well for the Efreeti. They're getting hit hard by the Shaitan and the Djinn now, plus many of their Salamander client states are in rebellion.

They might not be losing yet, but the centuries long stalemate has been broken, and not in their favor.
 
A sudden large influx of souls might be damaging I guess

But the Djinn and the Sultana already approved, and I don't see the Djinn allowing something that will damage reality
 
We're taking him away from it for at most a few hours for a strategic reason. We're trying to establish ties with the last remnant of Heaven and discuss possible solutions. His input will be important for that. Also he's a known face there, so him being with us will probably make the inhabitants less nervous about

Sorry. O.k. listen. I know you don't care about many people are being eaten by daemons, or enslaved or ass raped by tentacle monsters for every second he is away from his job, but he does.

And everyone in heaven will know we took him away from that. Please don't shoot us in the foot before we even walk in the fucking door!

Edit: it's heaven. We'll probably meet a relative of ours, that good egg guy or someone.
 
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We know the war isn't going well for the Efreeti. They're getting hit hard by the Shaitan and the Djinn now, plus many of their Salamander client states are in rebellion.

They might not be losing yet, but the centuries long stalemate has been broken, and not in their favor.
Yes, true.

But that doesn't mean they can't decide to break up that rebellion anyway. For practical reason, to protect their back, or even just to raise morale with some news of a crushing victory.
We don't know the total situation well enough to say the Tree and the Salamander are save for now.

We can ask the spymaster of Earth next time we meet him how he evaluates the situation.
 
Ah. This changes nothing. We still want to conquer Westeros except we have a stronger reason why we don't want disunity.

Also, I am now even more sad that we didn't give The Weeping Lady more dosh for temples. We need to help the Good god's as much as we can, if only because they might be willing to lend a hand in future reclamation of the outer planes free of charge without fucking us over.

Heart trees with full powered Cerulean sign in all three slots might be the way to stop the far spawn influence in Nirvana.

Edit: Old God's are the Future! Unlimited sacrifices works!
 
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No, it's fucking stupid.

Sorry. O.k. listen. I know you don't care about many people are being eaten by daemons, or enslaved or ass raped by tentacle monsters for every second he is away from his job, but he does.

And everyone in heaven will know we took him away from that. Please don't shoot us in the foot before we even walk in the fucking door!
He can sacrifice a few hours to help us here.
It will safe far more souls in the end if we can actually do something.
 

Sorry. O.k. listen. I know you don't care about many people are being eaten by daemons, or enslaved or ass raped by tentacle monsters for every second he is away from his job, but he does.

And everyone in heaven will know we took him away from that. Please don't shoot us in the foot before we even walk in the fucking door!

Edit: it's heaven. We'll probably meet a relative of ours, that good egg guy or someone.
Take his bloodwished simulacrum.
 
No, it's fucking stupid.

Sorry. O.k. listen. I know you don't care about many people are being eaten by daemons, or enslaved or ass raped by tentacle monsters for every second he is away from his job, but he does.

And everyone in heaven will know we took him away from that. Please don't shoot us in the foot before we even walk in the fucking door!

Okay, first, quit strawmanning me. I do not appreciate it. Second, while his job is important, I don't believe a small bit of time to get us introduced at minimum is going to be the end of the world.
That was not the only location talked about on the last ~3 pages.
Growing a tree in the celestial planes would definitely be risky, but that is something Bloodraven can muse over after we grow a tree for the Xorn. By being outside the planes hopefully he'll be able to judge whether it should even be attempted or not.
 
So ok since AO is not a thing. There should still be some sort of force of creation. Since something came into exitence. So we need to figure out creation and use it to fight back.
 
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He can sacrifice a few hours to help us here.
It will safe far more souls in the end if we can actually do something.
I'm telling you people are going to be pissed at us if we pull him away from his job for longer.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING THIS TIME.

Fuck azel even said he wouldn't be any help because he's been doing his incredibly crucial and important job!
 
Sorry. O.k. listen. I know you don't care about many people are being eaten by daemons, or enslaved or ass raped by tentacle monsters for every second he is away from his job, but he does.

And everyone in heaven will know we took him away from that. Please don't shoot us in the foot before we even walk in the fucking door!

Edit: it's heaven. We'll probably meet a relative of ours, that good egg guy or someone.
Is he currently doing his job right now? Is he visibly protesting being here? If not, it should be fine.
Also chill out immediately you're attacking other people and it needs to stop.
 
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