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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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If we cant believe in the Councils intent and ability to politic, and FDSs skill, then what is the point of the Federation?
I will do something that I regretably can not IRL and trust in the goverments intent and competence.
If only for the novelty of it.

[X] Have total faith in the Council.
 
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But SV, we are the government, Or at least a part of it.

Not sure what should we emphasize though, but, uh, we are those whose intent and competence are trusted.
 
TyrialFrost said:
Sydraxian holdings in Baker
- When determining split should these be considered Federation or Ashalla pact territory?
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They're former Sydraxian colonies and we already said they could move back in (No idea why they haven't, probably because the government is a bit unstable for that at the moment.)

Additionally they sit firmly behind Federation lines, no way the Cardassians could actually maintain it without claiming a lot of the coreward sections of the expanse as their own.
 
Enerael said:
If we cant believe in the Councils intent and ability to politic, and FDSs skill, then what is the point of the Federation?
I will do something that I regretably can not IRL and trust in the goverments intent and competence.
If only for the novelty of it.

[X] Have total faith in the Council.
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We aren't overruling the council - we're the expert advisers they're asking for advice with regard to the practicalities of the situation. We're being asked for advice on what exactly they should be aiming for with their politicking, and I'm pretty sure backing off entirely is a minor dereliction of duty.
 
CeBrudras said:
So, is there something we can do about the Imelak? Their expansion plans seem pretty dickish, so negotiating that stuff down seems sort of relevant.
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So about this and the Bajor stuff... I don't really see this as an "everything is on the table" renegotiation of our entire relationship with the Cardassians. This is about settling the borders for the Gabriel Border Zone. I suppose it's not impossible to slip an irrelevant side issue into negotiations, because that's the sort of stuff politicians do, but we'd probably have to pay pretty dearly in the final settlement.
 
[X] Starfleet concerns:

Simple is the way to go here. We really don't require that much in regards to how peace is achieved. We also don't need to tell them how to best be diplomatic. Frankly, they're probably better than we are. All else can come later. Hit the nail on the head.
 
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So about this and the Bajor stuff... I don't really see this as an "everything is on the table" renegotiation of our entire relationship with the Cardassians. This is about settling the borders for the Gabriel Border Zone. I suppose it's not impossible to slip an irrelevant side issue into negotiations, because that's the sort of stuff politicians do, but we'd probably have to pay pretty dearly in the final settlement.
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Bajor is entirely off the table, because if they lose Bajor to us then Cardassia is unacceptably close to the front lines - it's enough of a security issue that they'd go to war over it. I just think that we're negotiating from a strong enough postion that we ought to be able to swing being able to have open dialogues with the other Ashalla Pact members. Celos covers two things - the GBZ (which this negotiation will supersede) and the communications lockout. Why wouldn't we just say "by the way, we're withdrawing from the Treaty of Celos as part of this"?
 
[X] The Closest Border

Deathbybunnies said:
Bajor is entirely off the table, because if they lose Bajor to us then Cardassia is unacceptably close to the front lines - it's enough of a security issue that they'd go to war over it. I just think that we're negotiating from a strong enough postion that we ought to be able to swing being able to have open dialogues with the other Ashalla Pact members. Celos covers two things - the GBZ (which this negotiation will supersede) and the communications lockout. Why wouldn't we just say "by the way, we're withdrawing from the Treaty of Celos as part of this"?
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But the lockout exception to the Ashalla Signatories within Gabriel is reasonable enough, and might get us our feet in the door... it is not a blanked let's talk to all signatories but the ones we share borders in Gabriel...
 
Deathbybunnies said:
Why wouldn't we just say "by the way, we're withdrawing from the Treaty of Celos as part of this"?
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Because a Pacifist government (or indeed most other governments) will surely think that it is a great idea to exit one of the key treaties that reduced tensions with the CU to a manageable level, especially since it is not like they are already worrying about the break up of the Klingons and Romulans as well as Horizon....
 
Deathbybunnies said:
We aren't overruling the council - we're the expert advisers they're asking for advice with regard to the practicalities of the situation. We're being asked for advice on what exactly they should be aiming for with their politicking, and I'm pretty sure backing off entirely is a minor dereliction of duty.
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That's not what the fluff says.
 
[X] The Closest Border

sounds like the fairest comment SF commander can make
maybe add on the end there that, while there might be some personal perspective that we might disagree on peaceful relations when possible would be a nice change of pace

ooc: maybe find more ways too invest in intel works because i think they will be getting very busy soon
 
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Keeping it short and to the point wrt our requirements. I don't think we need to teach the FDS how to be diplomatic.

Going with SWB's instead:

[X] A Pair Of Considerations
-[X] 26 Enio holds the key to the Badlands, and whichever side possesses it can hide activity in the sensor shadow of that area freely. Defensively speaking it the key installation in preventing strategic surprise going forward. It would also keep the border shorter and avoid protruding/intruding subsectors.
-[X] Much like Athos V has done much for our relationship with the Romulans, shared research colonies, outposts, or stations with Pact species within the DMZ could do a lot for thawing relations going forward. Much like the Themis deal, the more that can be done to relax or create exceptions to the "no contact" rule the better.
 
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... Just looked at the latest maps... and holy shit... Deepport is so god-damn far from our borders! I mean, seriously, it's in the absolute top-left corner of the map! Why the hell's our explorers exploring that far out? I mean, I know they're meant to be exploring a great distance away from our borders, but there's 'far away' and then there's 'so far away it will be a century before our borders reach there, at best'...

And considering we're expanding extremely fast, that's saying something...
 
Pyro Hawk said:
... Just looked at the latest maps... and holy shit... Deepport is so god-damn far from our borders! I mean, seriously, it's in the absolute top-left corner of the map! Why the hell's our explorers exploring that far out? I mean, I know they're meant to be exploring a great distance away from our borders, but there's 'far away' and then there's 'so far away it will be a century before our borders reach there, at best'...

And considering we're expanding extremely fast, that's saying something...
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What you ought to be asking yourself is why some small group of Gaeni felt the need to run so far that they ended up way out there, probably with a population so small that cloning was the only way to preserve a viable gene pool.
 
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