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Honestly, Mrr'Shan is probably a good fit, because she isn't in a vital position right now that would make it awkward to yank her around and she's one of our most experienced officers of that grade with a deep well of experience.
 
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Wait, who were they negotiating with? The Sydraxians, who don't control the space? Us? Even the FDS would have laughed them off the subspace channel.
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"A Cardassian alone will Instinctively seek to establish dominance"

The Cardassians must feel increasingly alone right now... > : V

EDIT: But seriously, the Cardassians probably feel they have to do something to avoid losing face here. That and I suspect that a large number of Cardassian advisors and diplomatic personnel are trapped in Sydraxian space right now.
 
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I'm just pleased as punch that the Sydraxians split from the Pact. And that the Council is considering closing the Straits within the next year or two. Then we just need to defang the Yrillians to truly have turned the tables on the Spoonies.
 
So here is a revised fleet distribution plan that assumes:
1. Sol Defense requirement does not go up (if it does, we could likely steal from Amarkia or Apinae)
2. We get what we ask for and only have to send 20C for this Defense job.
3. We send the Kumari instead of having it go into refit.

2317 Fleet Distribution
Fleet Strength Changes
2316.Q4 – 2 year Caldonian Peacekeeping Operation (D8) begins and 1 year Ataami Defense Operation (20C) begins.
2316.Q4 – (PROPOSED) Slightly draw down Gabriel Expanse by sending the Kumari, 2 Constitution-Bs and 1 Centaur-A to cover Ataami Defense Operations. Draw down Licori Border zone by 1 Constitution-B and 1 Constellation to cover Caldonian Peacekeeping Operations.
2317.Q1 – Tarrak [Excelsior in Ana Font Berth A] completes (Explorer Corps)
2317.Q1 – Pleezirra [Excelsior in SF Berth A] completes
2317.Q1 – Excelsior [Excelsior] goes into refit for Excelsior-A pattern
2317.Q1 – Lion completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Svai completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Dryad [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q1 – Calypso [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q2 – Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes
2317.Q3 – Challorn completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Sappho completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Kearsage [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q3 – Vigour [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q4 – Miranda-A [SF Berth 1] completes

2316.Q3 = "Current".

Sol Sector – Requires D18
  • Current - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Lightning], 2 Starbase I (10) [Earth, Betazed] = 19D
  • 2317.Q1 – No change
  • Notes: No change.
Vulcan Sector – Requires D12
  • Current – 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 2 Miranda (4) [Dryad, Calypso], Starbase I (5) = 12D
  • 2317.Q1 – 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Lion, Svai], Starbase I (5) = 12D
  • Notes: In 2317.Q1 Dryad and Calypso go into refit, and are replaced by Lion and Svai.
Andor Sector – Requires D9
  • Current – 1 Constitution-B [Huascar], Starbase I (5) = 10D
  • 2317.Q1 – No change.
  • Notes: No change.
Tellar Sector – Requires D9
  • Current – 1 Constellation (3) [Vigour], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 13D.
  • 2317.Q3 – 1 Constellation-A (4) [Challorn], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 14D.
  • Notes: In 2317.Q3 Challorn arrives from refit, and Vigour goes into refit.
Amarkia Sector – Requires D9
  • Current - 1 Constellation (3) [Kearsage], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Zephyr] Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 16D
  • 2317.Q3 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Sappho], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Zephyr] Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 17D
  • Notes: In 2317.Q3 Sappho arrives from refit, Kearsage goes into refit.
Ferasa Sector – Requires D12
  • Current - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Endurance], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Bull], Starbase I (5) = 14D
  • 2317.Q1 – No change.
  • Notes: No change.
Rigel Sector – Requires D9
  • Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Avandar], 1 Constellation (3) [Selaya] Starbase I (5) = 14D
  • 2317.Q1 – No change.
  • Notes: No change.
Apinae Sector – Requires D12
  • Current - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Yukikaze], Starbase I (5) [Grand Hive of Apinae], Extra Outposts [5] = 18D
  • 2317.Q2- 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Yukikaze], 2 Starbase I (5) [Grand Hive of Apinae, Indorian Starbase], Extra Outposts [5] = 23D
  • Notes: Indorian Starbase completes in 2317.Q2
Romulan Border Zone – Requires D12
  • Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Excelsior], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
  • 2317.Q1 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pleezirra], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
  • Notes: In 2317.Q1, new Excelsior build Pleezirra in SF Berth A comes in and Excelsior goes into refit.
Klingon Border Zone – Requires D6
  • Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking] = D10
  • 2317.Q2- 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (5) = 15D
  • 2317.Q4 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Miranda-A (2) [SF Berth 1], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (5) = 17D
  • Notes: Starbase complete in 2317.Q2. New Miranda-A SF Berth 1 arrives in 2317.Q4
Cardassian Border Zone – Requires D10
  • Current - 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], 1 Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 12D
  • 2317.Q2 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Renaissance (5) [Ana Font Berth 1], 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], 1 Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 17D
  • Notes: In 2317.Q2 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] sent here after completion.
Sydraxian Border Zone – Requires D9
  • Current – 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Gale], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 13D
  • 2317.Q1 – No change.
  • Notes: No change.
Gabriel Border Zone – Requirement Left to Starfleet judgment
  • Current - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 1 Excelsior (6) [Kumari], 5 Constitution-B (25) [Korolev, Defiant, Exeter, Saratoga, Republic], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, Epiphany, Enlightenment, Insight], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Winterwind], 11 Miranda-A (22) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly] = 95 C.
  • 2316.Q4 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 3 Constitution-B (15) [Exeter, Saratoga, Republic], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, Epiphany, Enlightenment, Insight], 11 Miranda-A (22) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly] = 75 C.
  • Notes: In 2316.Q4, take the Kumari, Korolev, Defiant, and the Winterwind out to Ataami Defense operations.
Licori Border Zone – Requires D9
  • Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Rru'adorr], 2 Constitution-B (10) [Lexington, Hood], 1 Constellation (3) [Stalwart], 1 Oberth (1) [Torbriel] = 20D
  • 2317.Q1- 1 Excelsior (6) [Rru'adorr], 1 Constitution-B (5) [Lexington], 1 Oberth (1) [Torbriel] = 12D
  • Notes: Send Hood and Stalwart to Caldonian Peacekeeping Mission.
Caldonian Peacekeeping Mission – Requires D8 from 2316.Q4 through 2318.Q3
  • Current – Nothing
  • 2316.Q4 - 1 Constitution-B (5 [Hood], 1 Constellation (3) [Stalwart] = D8
  • Notes: Sending Hood and Stalwart from Licori Border Zone.
Ataami Defense Operation – Requires 20C Starfleet from 2316.Q4 through 2317.Q3
  • Current – Nothing
  • 2316.Q4 – 1 Blooded Excelsior (7) [Kumari], 2 Constitution-B (10) [Korolev, Defiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Winterwind] = 20C
 
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Forgothrax said:
I'm just pleased as punch that the Sydraxians split from the Pact. And that the Council is considering closing the Straits within the next year or two. Then we just need to defang the Yrillians to truly have turned the tables on the Spoonies.
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I'm actually sorta hoping that when we go to talk to the Dawair about the Hishmeri being inbound that the Cardassians tell us to shut up due to Celos and that that makes the Dwarves throw a fit and finally tell the Cardassians that the Dawair are in charge of the Dawair and to fuck off unless the Cardassians feel like sending a fleet to ward off the Hishmer themselves.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Wait, who were they negotiating with? The Sydraxians, who don't control the space? Us? Even the FDS would have laughed them off the subspace channel.
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I think they tried to make use of Leccare infiltrators in low level FDS clerical positions to push their agenda. Unfortunately, the Leccare infiltrators in medium level FDS diplomatic positions we all like "Naww, Fed be cool bro, we're not gonna help you fuck with them anymore" and quietly defectednaturalised. Like Wolfe did (or, at least I think he has). Though if he ever gets found out, I hope he moves to an ambassador position between us and his fellow Klingons.

TLDR, everyone is a Leccare infiltrator, except Wolfe (Klingon), Linderly (Human? Changeling?) and that delightful Vulcan tailor group, who are surprisingly personable and emotionally open for Vulcans (Tailor).

Lt. Kusenova is a Q but doesn't know it, btw
 
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AKuz said:
I'm actually sorta hoping that when we go to talk to the Dawair about the Hishmeri being inbound that the Cardassians tell us to shut up due to Celos and that that makes the Dwarves throw a fit and finally tell the Cardassians that the Dawair are in charge of the Dawair and to fuck off unless the Cardassians feel like sending a fleet to ward off the Hishmer themselves.
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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Cardassians did send a fleet though? I mean, it's an opportunity to shore up their alliances through use of military force. If I were them I'd be all over that.
 
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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Cardassians did send a fleet though? I mean, it's an opportunity to shore up their alliances through use of military force. If I were them I'd be all over that.
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I'd be fine with that too. If the Cardassians want to stage a fleet out of the middle of nowhere at the end of their supply chain for a year with us sitting on their throats I'm all for it. It helps keep the Hishmeri warded off, we know exactly where a Cardassian fleet is and where it isn't (Causing trouble for us), and due to the Cardassian vulnerability we probably wont have to worry about war until it returns. (I really don't think the Lacarre and the Daiwar can support a Cardassian fleet out of their own industry. The Lacarre don't seem large enough and the Daiwar are already relying on Cardassian military aid.)
 
AKuz said:
I'd be fine with that too. If the Cardassians want to stage a fleet out of the middle of nowhere at the end of their supply chain for a year with us sitting on their throats I'm all for it. It helps keep the Hishmeri warded off, we know exactly where a Cardassian fleet is and where it isn't (Causing trouble for us), and due to the Cardassian vulnerability we probably wont have to worry about war until it returns. (I really don't think the Lacarre and the Daiwar can support a Cardassian fleet out of their own industry. The Lacarre don't seem large enough and the Daiwar are already relying on Cardassian military aid.)
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I'd be okay with it, but I don't think that's what the Cardassians would do. I think they'd rally the Dawiar and Lecarre forces along with theirs and destroy the Hishmeri or at least attempt to. That wouldn't be a fun situation for us.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
[X] Briefvoice


Wouldn't it be interesting if the Cardassians did send a fleet though? I mean, it's an opportunity to shore up their alliances through use of military force. If I were them I'd be all over that.
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The Federation is blocking us from protectingstanding beside our loyal allies the (mighty/fierce/other empty praise) Diwar! Cardassia demands the Federation allow us passage! so we can hold a dagger to your (fed's) gut.

I could see something like that going down. :)
 
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AKuz said:
I'm actually sorta hoping that when we go to talk to the Dawair about the Hishmeri being inbound that the Cardassians tell us to shut up due to Celos and that that makes the Dwarves throw a fit and finally tell the Cardassians that the Dawair are in charge of the Dawair and to fuck off unless the Cardassians feel like sending a fleet to ward off the Hishmer themselves.
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I would love to see that happening.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
I'd be okay with it, but I don't think that's what the Cardassians would do. I think they'd rally the Dawiar and Lecarre forces along with theirs and destroy the Hishmeri or at least attempt to. That wouldn't be a fun situation for us.
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From a rather cold perspective, it would neutralize two forces (the Cardassians would probably take significant damage, the Hishmeri would probably take enough hits that we could prevail on them to accept Excelsior escort through our space). What negatives would you expect?
 
I'm not sure why the plan needs revising to turn the Daiwar into a potential stumbling block. I'd soften the language there to "maximum effort should be made [by the FDS?] to gain the aquiescence of the Daiwar".

I'm not going to be pleased if they go "lol treaty of Celos" and this gets booted.
 
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There are four Gaeni officers and crew aboard as well, and they seem to be walking on air as the day approaches. The Courageous' chief science officer has to caution one of them not to add any bespoke celebrations to the day after noticing a simulation for a spectacular deflector dish display was being run.

When they arrive in orbit, the mood among the Gaeni is plain to see. The capital city is alive with red and green banners alongside blue Federation banners. Beautiful fabric that ripples in the wind hangs from balconies, from streetlights, from overpasses and buildings. In orbit, the famed Tech-Cruisers are all arrayed in close formation. They still bear their special markings from the Arcadian War; not wartime markings per se, but bright coloured bands used to signify a ship in service to the Technocracy that represents all Gaen, rather than just to an Institute. Through whatever mechanism seemed best to them, the IGS Pall-Keat has been given the honour of the trip to Sol III alongside the Courageous.
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I think this is my favorite description of a ratification ceremony yet. It so clearly shows the Gaeni spirit beyond just their science hat.

Forgothrax said:
From a rather cold perspective, it would neutralize two forces (the Cardassians would probably take significant damage, the Hishmeri would probably take enough hits that we could prevail on them to accept Excelsior escort through our space). What negatives would you expect?
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Moral debate on whether the cold perspective is acceptable, whether we should take a stance to prevent a potential genocide of the Hishmeri, whether we should allow a large Cardassian squadron to operate so close to our border, and whether we should accept Hishmeri refugees (likely slave owners at the very least) if the Cardassians successfully destroy a large portion of their fleet.


Iron Wolf said:
I'm not sure why the plan needs revising to turn the Daiwar into a potential stumbling block. I'd soften the language there to "maximum effort should be made [by the FDS?] to gain the aquiescence of the Daiwar".

I'm not going to be pleased if they go "lol treaty of Celos" and this gets booted.
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I'd support such a revision.
 
Iron Wolf said:
I'm not sure why the plan needs revising to turn the Daiwar into a potential stumbling block. I'd soften the language there to "maximum effort should be made [by the FDS?] to gain the aquiescence of the Daiwar".

I'm not going to be pleased if they go "lol treaty of Celos" and this gets booted.
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I phrased it that way because I think if we can't get the acquiescence of the Dawiar, we shouldn't do it. I don't consider that it's likely to be an issue, but intervention is not worth a war, and this is a situation where it would be all too easy to stumble into a war.

Just think about how aggressive the Dawiar are. How easy it would be for them to be trying to make one of their typical aggressive shows of force, even firing on a ship to show how serious they are. On a fleet filled with Member World ships, not under Starfleet discipline, and then all it takes if for one captain to make a bad decision...
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
I think this is my favorite description of a ratification ceremony yet. It so clearly shows the Gaeni spirit beyond just their science hat.


Moral debate on whether the cold perspective is acceptable, whether we should take a stance to prevent a potential genocide of the Hishmeri, whether we should allow a large Cardassian squadron to operate so close to our border, and whether we should accept Hishmeri refugees (likely slave owners at the very least) if the Cardassians successfully destroy a large portion of their fleet.



I'd support such a revision.
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If someone's willing to make the revision that would be great. I'm on mobile right now and modifying plans is not easy.

Briefvoice said:
I phrased it that way because I think if we can't get the acquiescence of the Dawiar, we shouldn't do it. I don't consider that it's likely to be an issue, but intervention is not worth a war, and this is a situation where it would be all too easy to stumble into a war.

Just think about how aggressive the Dawiar are. How easy it would be for them to be trying to make one of their typical aggressive shows of force, even firing on a ship to show how serious they are. On a fleet filled with Member World ships, not under Starfleet discipline, and then all it takes if for one captain to make a bad decision...
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There's no guarantee the Daiwar are going to talk to us/the Cardassians are going to let them talk to us, and it's in neutral space. If they want to down a mickey, rip off their shirts and have a donnybrook they'll be in violation of the treaty anyways.

If they're outright hostile to the idea that's another thing but warning them should be sufficient if we get no other response. We should not call off a chance to deter a threat and help people avoid getting enslaved because the Daiwar don't respond to "u up?"
 
[X][ADVICE] Feasibility of protecting the Ataami.
-[X] Stationing 40C in the area would be feasible give the following stipulations: 1. Starfleet can provide roughly provide about 50% of the minimum required combat capacity required without undue compromise to other commitments. The remainder plus any margin would ideally come from member and local affiliate fleets. 2. Our initial analysis based mostly on proximity suggests the Caitians, Andorians, Qloathi, Seyek and Tellarites are in the best position to contribute; however, deciding what affiliates to draw on specifically should be your decision, based on Council and Affiliate diplomacy and politics. So long as we gain the other half we need. 3. If necessary we can provide 40C by ourselves, but it would put a severe strain on operations elsewhere. 4. Starfleet considers it a necessity that some sort of diplomatic accord be reached with the Dawiar for this effort. The Dawiar must understand the purpose of this large fleet gathered on their border and we must have their acquiescence if not their approval, and ideally their active support.
 
[X][ADVICE] Feasibility of protecting the Ataami.
-[X] Stationing 40C in the area would be feasible give the following stipulations: 1. Starfleet can provide roughly provide about 50% of the minimum required combat capacity required without undue compromise to other commitments. The remainder plus any margin would ideally come from member and local affiliate fleets. 2. Our initial analysis based mostly on proximity suggests the Caitians, Andorians, Qloathi, Seyek and Tellarites are in the best position to contribute; however, deciding what affiliates to draw on specifically should be your decision, based on Council and Affiliate diplomacy and politics. So long as we gain the other half we need. 3. If necessary we can provide 40C by ourselves, but it would put a severe strain on operations elsewhere. 4. Starfleet considers it a necessity that some sort of diplomatic accord be reached with the Dawiar for this effort. The Dawiar must understand the purpose of this large fleet gathered on their border and we must have their acquiescence if not their approval, and ideally their active support.
 
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If they're outright hostile to the idea that's another thing but warning them should be sufficient if we get no other response. We should not call off a chance to deter a threat and help people avoid getting enslaved because the Daiwar don't respond to "u up?"
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I want to point out there's still no textual support for this "getting enslaved" business as something the Hishmeri do during raids.

Anyway, I don't really think it's going to be that much of an issue. There are still back-channels for communications. But it is really important, not a "would be nice".
 
[X][ADVICE] Does Starfleet consider protecting the Ataami to be feasible? What would be required from Members or Affiliates?
-[X] Starfleet can provide roughly provide about 50% of the minimum required combat capacity required without undue effort. The remainder plus any margin would ideally come from member fleets. Our initial analysis based mostly on proximity suggests the Caitians, Vulcans, Qloathi, Seyek and Tellarites are in the best position to contribute; however, deciding what affiliates to draw on specifically should be your decision, based on Council and Affiliate diplomacy and politics. So long as we gain the other half we need. If necessary we can provide 40C by ourselves, but it would put a severe strain on operations elsewhere. In your dealings you can emphasize the forward defense nature of this, in addition to the fact we're helping a prewarp civilization. Though again, use your best judgement for the approach you wish to take to sell this to the members and affiliates.
 
[X][ADVICE] Feasibility of protecting the Ataami.
-[X] Stationing 40C in the area would be feasible give the following stipulations: 1. Starfleet can provide roughly provide about 50% of the minimum required combat capacity required without undue compromise to other commitments. The remainder plus any margin would ideally come from member and local affiliatefleets. 2. Our initial analysis based mostly on proximity suggests the Caitians, Andorians, Qloathi, Seyek and Tellarites are in the best position to contribute; however, deciding what affiliates to draw on specifically should be your decision, based on Council and Affiliate diplomacy and politics. So long as we gain the other half we need. 3. If necessary we can provide 40C by ourselves, but it would put a severe strain on operations elsewhere. 4. Starfleet considers it optimal if some sort of understanding is reached with the Dawiar for this effort. If we do not have their acquiescence or approval, we can go ahead, but will have to tread carefully to avoid provoking tensions.
 
[X][ADVICE] Feasibility of protecting the Ataami.
-[X] Stationing 40C in the area would be feasible give the following stipulations: 1. Starfleet can provide roughly provide about 50% of the minimum required combat capacity required without undue compromise to other commitments. The remainder plus any margin would ideally come from member and local affiliatefleets. 2. Our initial analysis based mostly on proximity suggests the Caitians, Andorians, Qloathi, Seyek and Tellarites are in the best position to contribute; however, deciding what affiliates to draw on specifically should be your decision, based on Council and Affiliate diplomacy and politics. So long as we gain the other half we need. 3. If necessary we can provide 40C by ourselves, but it would put a severe strain on operations elsewhere. 4. Starfleet considers it optimal if some sort of understanding is reached with the Dawiar for this effort. If we do not have their acquiescence or approval, we can go ahead, but will have to tread carefully to avoid provoking tensions.
 
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