Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Found old quote from myself on twins!

torroar said:
Seeing some questions on it, and I have some answers! Agatha and Alisa look like a purple-eyed mixture of Gem (The white haired one) from Tron Legacy from this scene and

I really wasn't kidding with the description saying it was sorta like metal cables and what not for their muscles. They had some intense training in Ind, under the Deva Yemaraja and His Chosen. They're regular practitioners not just regular physical training and sparring like their parents, but also religious (literally, cause Yemaraja and Deva and what not) practitioners of a specialized variant of Yoga developed specifically for those training under Yemaraja's direction. Which if we had to put it into Old World terms, was sort of like Warrior Priest Training under a non-Chaotically aligned and incredibly powerful Daemon Prince/Minor God. Which gained them some additional anti-Undead stuff, plus the regular physical and mental conditioning. And I'm talking extreme yoga. With, like, weights and stuff. While doing spells to work on concentration and what not as well. Also keep in mind:

  1. Resulting Trait: Tall – Towers above almost all others from above. (+1 Martial, +1 Diplomacy)
  2. Resulting Trait: Strong – As a child, this one was considered freakishly strong for her size and frame, as an adult, this has not changed. Willowy, yet also like an oak. (+2 Martial)
They had those two traits their whole lives. They. Are. FREAKS. You made them by having sex between two people supercharged with Qhyash aka High Magic, in a place DROWNING in Shyish, the Wind of Death, thanks to 2k years of death and destruction and with the Dhar being sort of untangled/used up/brushed away by various things, with one partner being of a bloodline that has been touched by magic for many, many centuries. They are not normal examples of people, or even of wizards who are by their nature eccentric.
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As for the rest of the characters, I've never been too sure on that sort of stuff, more amorphous amalgamations of traits as I describe them in the descriptors and all of that. It helps that we've got some closer examples these days, like actual images of Magnus the Pious in that one painting, plus the various imagery of the Ice Witches in Total War Warhammer III, just blonde with icy blue eyes rather than black hair for Natasha.

I'd want James Spader in there, somewhere, I think. Him and Bryan Cranston, I think, for voice/charisma/presence they can manage.

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Seriously, just listen to some of these monologues from my favorite James Spader character ever, Raymond Reddington from the Blacklist:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6wLxUR_r0o&ab_channel=GreatTVSeries

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Just realized, but given the success story that is the Uxmaegr, I wonder if Ulha'up's plan is to go to other Chaos-worshipping human civilizations and set up enclaves of new Old One worshippers to combat their native culture's madness.

I just love idea of the mad toad going around the world, seeking out Chaos worshipping civilizations, and stirring up minority groups that oppose them and seek to spread Old One worship.
 
torroar said:
I would say that Ulha'up was never the head of any Temple-City, he was a little off already before then, not one of the more stable and serene Slann that would be put in charge of one of them. I'd say that he was probably part of the Slann that were stationed at Xlanhuapec in the long distant past, yeah. As one of the 2nd Generation still alive, he's been around a while, and it also does thematically work with the glyph too, yeah.
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Yeah, plus, all the mist when he made his entrance. That or it was steam from some random stuff meant to keep his temperature regulated in this climate and thus just a coincidence.
 
CuriousStranger said:
Wow, the creepy twins from the Shining grew up to be Muscle Wizards. Did not think when they were first around.
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They were always going to grow up tall and strong, just based on the traits and the particular circumstances of their conception, it's just that going around the world as they did meant that they went from a good baseline to someone who really worked hard with said good baseline. Nothing like running away from zombie hordes and Lizardmen, or skeletons, or a Liche's tomb collapsing after their banishment, etc. etc. all the way up to learning martial arts in Cathay from their resident order of ghost punchers and general undead specialists.
 
How important has their participation been in the war of bitter ice?

Before they joined Alexandra, Alexandra atop her mount was the heavy hitter and champion of the Romanov side along with some likely unnamed Ice priestes and some blademasters, but each of the twin sisters and their teacher could defeat Alexandra if they were outside of Kislev, inside of it Alex has the homeground advantage and the connection to the land, (Kislev is land, land is Kislev).

and So Alex gained 3 very powerful wizards and champions. In terms of pure Martial numbers, except for freddy of course, the 3 daughters are the best of the family and they have magic to supplement it.
 
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They've certainly helped, yes. I would think it's rather understandable that Alexandra is not very trusting at the moment given the sheer screwy nature of so many factions within Kislev tearing things up and apart, so having two sisters that she can trust a lot more - and by extension, somewhat, their teacher - has been helpful for her. Mental state wise, and also in having trusted agents doing some things that she can't do because she's just one person.
 
Have there been any thoughts about establishing an Officer's School in Ostland? With Frederic's high Martial and Learning, I'd imagine it would be right up his alley.

I imagine a school, open to the noble and wealthy sons from all the empire, to come and get both a theoretical and practical education in command, logistics, strategy, planning, and all the other aspects of leading a company or an army. With wargames, as shown in how Frederic has taught his own children, and field exercises. Possibly cooperating with the Army of the Forest to provide practical experience.

It'd be a good way to create some soft power; having the southern heirs get a quality Military Education in the dangerous north.

I'd imagine this education is currently available if you are willing to go to a Myrmidian temple, but they are not the most popular at the time. Otherwise this appears to be the type of knowledge retained in families with strong Military traditions (Like the Hohenzollerns and the Freud-Raukovs), and there are probably some schools i Nuln and Altdorf, but they could use a good northern competitor founded by one of the empire's greatest military heroes.
 
Niksol said:
Have there been any thoughts about establishing an Officer's School in Ostland? With Frederic's high Martial and Learning, I'd imagine it would be right up his alley.

I imagine a school, open to the noble and wealthy sons from all the empire, to come and get both a theoretical and practical education in command, logistics, strategy, planning, and all the other aspects of leading a company or an army. With wargames, as shown in how Frederic has taught his own children, and field exercises. Possibly cooperating with the Army of the Forest to provide practical experience.

It'd be a good way to create some soft power; having the southern heirs get a quality Military Education in the dangerous north.

I'd imagine this education is currently available if you are willing to go to a Myrmidian temple, but they are not the most popular at the time. Otherwise this appears to be the type of knowledge retained in families with strong Military traditions (Like the Hohenzollerns and the Freud-Raukovs), and there are probably some schools i Nuln and Altdorf, but they could use a good northern competitor founded by one of the empire's greatest military heroes.
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What makes you think that the more developed south doesn't have their own military academies ? , even if military academies are not a thing in the empire so far why would they southerners send their kids all the way to Ostland for instead their own

Freddy is good but not to the point other provinces would dismiss their own military history and martial traditions in favor of
 
mmgaballah said:
What makes you think that the more developed south doesn't have their own military academies ? , even if military academies are not a thing in the empire so far why would they southerners send their kids all the way to Ostland for instead their own

Freddy is good but not to the point other provinces would dismiss their own military history and martial traditions in favor of
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... I don't...?
As I wrote, there are probably schools in both Nuln and Altdorf. We have never heard of any of them though. And we have never heard of any anywhere in the Northern Trident.

As to why southerners would send their sons north; Prestige: 15,700.
Ostland is running a highly modern and efficient military force that has time and again shown itself effective against a wide variety of the enemies of the empire. Just look at the current state of affairs. Even though Ostland was hit by first the Arks at the coast, then the Ix in the mountains, and then by the beastmen, they are stil the ones strong enough to send a whole expeditionary army to a neighbor to relieve them. I do believe that such a show of martial force will garner interest. It may not be where you go to learn how to be a cavalry commander, but for artillery?

Now I do wonder how much the Ostland military doctrine differs from that of Wissenland; the other gunpowder-heavy province.
 
So there are a few actually notable academies in canon, amongst them the Aquila Academies, military academies set up by the Cult of Myrmidia for training of officers and the like, but those have taken a recent major hit in DoDA as they were fronts of the Knights of Magritta Sect for recruitment and influence building so graduates of those places have fallen under extreme suspicion. In general, Temples of Myrmidia are effectively schools for officers and the like in general, as well, as martial learning as a commander and officer is literally baked into their martial aspects of worship. Admittedly, however, the Nuln Aquila Academy was granted extra privileges by Magnus due to the fact that the Aquila Academy of Nuln's entire staff and students joined up to follow him as well as the Knights of the Blazing Sun being amongst the first to join him. So they got an Imperial Charter, land-grants in the temple quarter of Nuln, etc.

Which has come into severe question after the Knights of Magritta did their thing.

Another famous school was the Diesdorf Military College, but that one was founded in 2440 IC, so it doesn't even exist yet.

There's references to non-purely academic colleges and schools sprinkled throughout the source material, though, so hard to say as to which ones are best or worst and so on. It's also noted that cadets, aka the career for people to become future officers, can sometimes be taken in as smaller groups or even individuals under specific actual officers for learning as well rather than a larger school effort.
 
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OK what has been going on in this thread for the last two days?

My internet goes out for said two days and I'm supposed to believe that @torroar only had one post large enough to count for notification during those two days an hour ago?

No. This is far from the norm. Someone explain please.

Edit: And the thread only moved a single page in two days. Seriously what the actual fuck?
 
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Dmol8 said:
OK what has been going on in this thread for the last two days?

My internet goes out for said two days and I'm supposed to believe that @torroar only had one post large enough to count for notification during those two days an hour ago?

No. This is far from the norm. Someone explain please.

Edit: And the thread only moved a single page in two days. Seriously what the actual fuck?
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That is the norm for this site. If you didn't log in for a few days, then you won't see when QM made a post from the alert notification, unless you view all the alerts by dgging further through hitting "Show All". I think that's the case anywyas.

Also, QM replies when QM replies, sometimes that is frequent, and sometimes nothing is added for weeks, or days.
 
Dmol8 said:
OK what has been going on in this thread for the last two days?

My internet goes out for said two days and I'm supposed to believe that @torroar only had one post large enough to count for notification during those two days an hour ago?

No. This is far from the norm. Someone explain please.

Edit: And the thread only moved a single page in two days. Seriously what the actual fuck?
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i mean.... thread is in a bit of a dry phase between updates.

That's kind of normal? All things the readers thought need much discussion over were discussed and so far we are just waiting on the next update, big chonker that it's likely to be
 
Marlin said:
That is the norm for this site. If you didn't log in for a few days, then you won't see when QM made a post from the alert notification, unless you view all the alerts by dgging further through hitting "Show All". I think that's the case anywyas.

Also, QM replies when QM replies, sometimes that is frequent, and sometimes nothing is added for weeks, or days.
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Dude I regularly use show all which is why i was asking the question. Good information for others though I guess.

I wasn't talking about just the QM replies. Where did everybody go these last two days when there are so few posts?

Edit: @AllenWalker answered the question in the post above just as I was posting it.
 
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Sheer length of time between main updates, more likely than not. Not everyone has questions or thoughts they want to share that haven't already been asked or posted. There's the commission posts, but those are liable to be only posted so often as I work on them, deal with IRL, and work on the main update.
 
torroar, I think I found a few typos here and there.

torroar said:
Frederick von Hohenzollern, son of Arthur von Hohenzollern, looks almost nothing like you. His eyes are a warm hazel, while his black hair is nowhere near as shaggy or otherwise long as any of your other children.
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Character sheet says Fred Jr has blue eyes like Hohenzollerns of old but here it says hazel eyes. I thought it could be babies eye colour changing but he is 4 here, so I wasn't sure.
torroar said:
The Kessels have given birth to their new daughter who they have named Amalie, and she looks to be quite a healthy child, while Ortrud gave birth to a son she has named, predictably Reinhardt.
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I think Amalie here should be either Frederica or Mena, unless I missed a name change but all I could find about an Amalie was Roland's late wife.
torroar said:
The words of the Eldar were a whisper of crushing vines.
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words of the Elder
torroar said:
The Knights of the Shining Talon were especially successful at this, now being credited for the total destruction of the Deff Grindaz tribe after they razed the tons of Hinkend and Wurmgrube on their movement south.
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razed the towns of Hinkend
torroar said:
And this time, he longer had the air in his lungs to scream with.
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he no longer had
torroar said:
And this Taizong does not believe that we should be killing one another when there are such greater threats to our Gand Cathay.
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Grand Cathay
 
I just realized something.
@torroar
The mists around Lord Ul'haup, they're like the Mists of Albion/the Fimir, designed to hide him from the sight of Chaos/Malevolent gods so he doesn't end up in a Kragg situation where every gribbly in a hundred leagues is encouraged to dogpile him?

Because a 2nd Generation Slann that is active, even separated from the world-shifting power of the main nexuses of the Geomantic Web, even mad?

That's a major force in one individual, and one more vulnerable than they'll likely ever get.
 
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NutMaster said:
torroar, I think I found a few typos here and there.
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Ah, my thanks! Fixed!

EVA-Saiyajin said:
I just realized something.
@torroar
The mists around Lord Ul'haup, they're like the Mists of Albion/the Fimir, designed to hide him from the sight of Chaos/Malevolent gods so he doesn't end up in a Kragg situation where every gribbly in a hundred leagues is encouraged to dogpile him?

Because a 2nd Generation Slann that is active, even separated from the world-shifting power of the main nexuses of the Geomantic Web, even mad?

That's a major force in one individual, and one more vulnerable than they'll likely ever get.
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Yeah, Lord Ulha'up is considered crazy by the reckoning of the rest of the Slann, thinking that actively interacting with warmbloods, trying to preach to them about the Old Ones, has really nothing to do with the Great Plan as far as their reckoning goes.

But he's also a 2nd Generation Slann, so he's not going to just, like, super easily get himself killed. Setting aside his personal shielding spells, warding amulets, etc. And he knows that he's put himself in danger, just believes that proselytizing is worth it.
 
torroar said:
There's references to non-purely academic colleges and schools sprinkled throughout the source material, though, so hard to say as to which ones are best or worst and so on.
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To be fair, in WHF while those academies are important, naturally people focus on war colleges since the knowledge is usually more practically useful against forces of darkness. Its like Anna said earlier, engineering work focusing on war machines will always be viewed more useful than civilian stuff.
torroar said:
Yeah, Lord Ulha'up is considered crazy by the reckoning of the rest of the Slann, thinking that actively interacting with warmbloods, trying to preach to them about the Old Ones, has really nothing to do with the Great Plan as far as their reckoning goes.
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At least his type of crazy is productive. :D

And like someone said earlier, he is basically doing what Chaos cults do but in reverse, lol.
 
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