[X] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
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[X] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
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[X] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
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[X] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
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[X] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
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[X] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
[X] Exploration (Pathfinding, Scanners, Analysis)
[X] Exploration (Pathfinding, Scanners, Analysis)
Pff. Don't be ridiculous. Salt vampires have been extinct for over a century. Come on, Marianne, let's get out of here.
Yep.
Ships on the other hand are never scuttled because of battle damage. Starfleet promptly gives up on the mission and doesn't build replacement platforms /s
Thunderchild says otherwise.
Archduke
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[X] Exploration (Pathfinding, Scanners, Analysis)
Gonna give this a little bump. Having some extra data on near our borders worlds can only help with planning for future explorations. I can also see improved scanners leading to earlier identification of threats or incoming anomalies. Useful stuff for a ship that's gonna be on our borders quite a bit.
Gonna give this a little bump. Having some extra data on near our borders worlds can only help with planning for future explorations. I can also see improved scanners leading to earlier identification of threats or incoming anomalies. Useful stuff for a ship that's gonna be on our borders quite a bit.
Frankly I don't get what your point is among all the damn sarcasm. @TehChron 's point is that wider deployment of poorly defended logistics stations like the Pharos far out into the Frontier is a recipe for disaster.
Keeping Pharos type stations well back from the Frontier is a prudent strategy and the Federation class can enable that by allowing Starfleet to stage resupply from further back from the Frontier.
The frontier should at most have battlestations that have a lesser secondary role as logistics points. And never enough to support more than a small number of warships per station. The Klingon war has shown the serious danger that putting a station that has a primary focus of logistics with combat/defense as a tertiary focus at best within easy reach of a hostile border.
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...What are you even trying to say at this point?
Nope, we build them the infrastructure and ship the medical professionals at the same time out there before a medical emergency that needs thousands tended to. You know make them able to self sustain? Any crisis needing more stuff/doctors can be taken care of by other vessels.
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Leaning further into ship support isn't a valuable choice for this platform. The arguments for adding more of it are at cross purposes with the logistics of the job and the current capabilities of the ship.
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What other vessels? The only class in service with expanded medical are the Excalibur's, which are limited in number, far slower outside of sprint, and are being diverted to exploration duties and less likely to be near any federation colony in need of support.
While I agree with the "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" train of thought, that's not a good reason to ignore it, especially since we're behind the curve in number of starships (modern and not) thanks to overextension that existed prior to the 4YW.
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Actually this makes me wonder, an awful lot of kirk's missions were the edge of Federation space rather than outright exploration.
If the Federation class ship is going to be firmly planted helping colonies on the border, presumably those missions will go to it rather than the Excalibur class .
Does that mean they will do more actual exploration missions than in canon?
If the Federation class ship is going to be firmly planted helping colonies on the border, presumably those missions will go to it rather than the Excalibur class .
Does that mean they will do more actual exploration missions than in canon?
So your response to examples and cogent arguments to the contrary is to just go for...dubiously effective sarcasm?
Well, thats your prerogative.
If the argument against the Pharos is that it did exactly what we intended it to do and performed exactly how we expected it to for 20+ years then that's not very cogent.
Is the federation abandoning its colonies?
Is the federation not building infrastructure to regain some ability to support defense in depth, commerce, or acting as a minor fleet hub?
Your fundamental premise was the Pharos blew up and wouldn't be replaced by anything so we should make this ship able to do that job. That the distances needed to keep them safe meant the Federation really needed this capability. That any infrastructure that couldn't withstand a fleet wouldn't be valued by the strategic planners so it'd be a long term niche for this ship.
My point was that either there was enough demand for ship support for the federation to rebuild similar infrastructure stations quickly or there isn't. If there isn't then more specialization into that role for this ship doesn't add enough value.