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Can't put out completely detailed kit and kaboodle, on phone, but do have idea for banner:

Azamar Brynaz

Drongundum, Kradskonti and [Widowmaker] together in shimmering gold on a field of Turquoise like a jewel framed with pure silver knotwork, the other Ancestral weapons (Gazul's, Thungni's, Smednir's, Morgrim's) in gold at the four Cardinal points.

Runes:

Compressed A.Aegis+Warding+Stone
Azamar Brynaz

A fluttering field of turquoise like a shiny jewel, glimmering in the bright sun. Shimmering, bright and resplendent and fearless, a promise and a memory alike, Kradskonti, Drongundum and the Az-Dreugidum in glittering gold, bright and defiant in the face of the world's darkness, its cruelty, its evil. To the top, Karaz-Kazak-Rhun, also trimmed in gold. To the left, Azulokrid. To the bottom, Zharrvengryn. And to the right, Onkegruni, Morgrim's patrimony from his father. This, trimmed with silver knotwork, and the negative space filled with jewels. This is all on Ancient Wyrm Hide.

The pole to hold the banner is carved from Dronwut. At the top, Zorn and from there, spiralling downward like a miner descending the shaft, the long line of holds established by the Ancestors as they parted. A grip of Ancient Troll Hide dyed vivid teal breaks up the otherwise stoney color of the Dronwut, the color scheme further assisted by the seven jewels up top and the seven jewels below that mark the grip. The jewels are socketed in bands of pure gold.

Runically, the Eternal Light will bear:

The Master Rune of Ancestral Aegis (T4 Relevant Reagent): Resilience, protection, and defiance. The most terrible of blows, healing, and spite, raw, naked, and well-deserved, towards the Daemonic.

Warding (T4 Adamant): Mighty, resilient, unyielding and unbreaking. The already potent defensive powers of the Aegis improved, endowed the certitude and purity of the best of metals, taken to a higher, brighter, unblemished level.

Stone (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll's Heart): If harmed, they shall not be slain; if struck, they shall not be wounded; if surrounded, they shall overcome, shining brighter than ever. Hard, hard and mighty indeed the warriors.

An unfalling force, shining, remembering, even in the blackest, darkest, most terrible night, when even the stars themselves seem to have burned out.
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Inspiration source.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]

[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
[X] Plan: Glorious Vision, Help Ornsmotek and Support Grimgal
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Flamedrinking Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
----[X] Choose: Combo, Flamedrinking: [Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame]
--[X] Write-In: Aetherbinder Pt. 1 [1 Heir]
---[X] The Aetherbinder "Zhuffbarazen (lit. Torrent Binding)", Talisman: This device is a series of plates and metal loops linked together by adamant chains that fits over a dwarven arm, either armored or unarmored. Link to design post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Purification (T4 Voidstone) + Rune of Worldly Warding (T4 Ancient Stone Troll Blood) + Ancestor Rune of Thungni (T4 Adamant). The theme idea is "I will Endure the Flow, I will Resist it, I will Shape it and what I cannot use I will Burn Away."
--[X] [Simple] Once more with Smelting [1 Heir] {Note: This Smelter is being built near a Waystone near the Anvil}
--[X] Examine Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [1 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery Pt. 1 [2 AP]
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight Pt. 1 [1 Heir]
---[X] Brightcaller: This is the greathammer of Clan Skarridum, a weapon also known as Brynlidha and Brighttongue. In structure it is entirely Adamant (you learned your lesson with Zharrgal), with the metal haft wrapped in Wutroth native to Dorden's territory, sourced from the Plumbeards' groves and decorated with gems retrieved from Dorden's depths. Link to design post.
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Conduction (T4 Radiant Pegasus Blood + T2 Dragon Essence) + Lightspite (T4 Radiant Pegasus Blood) + Rune of Echoblow (T2 Dragon Gas Sac). If this Combos please call it "Constellations".
--[X] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 1 [3 AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Grungaldrin [2 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, The Throng is Mustered [1 Retainer] Support Grimgal
--[X] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Brain
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Cockatrice's Eye [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Lightning Oriented upgrade to Stonehorn Horns [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: Slave Wyrm Corpse 1 [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: Slave Wyrm Corpse 2 [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
---[X] Royal Expedite: T4 Ancient Greedy Troll Heart [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]

[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Flamedrinking Pt. 2 [1 Heir]
----[X] Choose: Combo, Flamedrinking: [Rune of Thungni's Presence, Rune of Thungni, Rune of Forgeflame]
--[X] Write-In: Aetherbinder Pt. 1 [1 Heir]
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Purification (T4 Voidstone) + Rune of Worldly Warding (T4 Ancient Stone Troll Blood) + Ancestor Rune of Thungni (T4 Adamant)
--[X] [Simple] Once more with Smelting [1 Heir] {Note: This Smelter is being built near a Waystone near the Anvil}
--[X] [Difficult] Starlight Pt. 1 [1 Heir]
---[X] Choose: Master Rune of Conduction (Radiant Pegasus Blood + Dragon Essence), Rune of Lightspite (Radiant Pegasus Blood), Rune of Echoblow (Elder Wyrm's Gas Sac)
--[X] Extrasensory Perception Pt. 2 [3 Snorri AP]
--[X] Aetherbinder Pt.2 [3 Snorri AP]
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Grungaldrin [2 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Expedition, The Throng is Mustered [1 Retainer]
--[X] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Brain
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Cockatrice's Eye [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: Slave Wyrm Corpse #1 [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
---[X] Royal Expedite #1 [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: Slave Wyrm Corpse #2 [-15 Kraka Grom Favor]
---[X] Royal Expedite #2 [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Wyrm's Blood x2 [-30 Kraka Grom Favor]
---[X] Royal Expedite [-30 Karak Ungor Favor]
---[X] Royal Expedite x2 [-30 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Lightning Oriented upgrade to Stonehorn Horns [-15 Kraka Krum Favor]

[X] Plan: Go all Out
-[X] [Simple] Gronti-Bay: [Cost: any 2 actions] Peerless Production will proc.
--[X] Hirelings: [Cost 5 Favour with Kraka Drakk] x7. -35 Kraka Drakk Favor
--[X] [Location:] Overtop the Anvil of the Earth: +3 actions to Gronti-Bay.
--[X] [Scope:] Dedicated General Facility. +2 actions to Gronti-Bay.
--[X] [Runes:] Do Both. +3 actions to Skaudardrengi.

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Prince Laequalys of House Wilderwood [Extensive]

[X]Grimgal:] Accept
 
It occurs to me that if our Grandnoodle is going to war with us then we should make her something to keep her safe. Sounds like armor is already being covered by her siblings so that leaves talismen/trinkets/banners.

Or warchompers. A dragon's bite is already deadly so you can pull all sorts of shenanigans for double strikes, faster attacks, and transversal for unexpected assaults.
 
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It occurs to me that if our Grandnoodle is going to war with us then we should make her something to keep her safe. Sounds like armor is already being covered by her siblings so that leaves talismen/trinkets/banners.
Hm. Banner you say?
Azamar Brynaz

A fluttering field of turquoise like a shiny jewel, glimmering in the bright sun. Shimmering, bright and resplendent and fearless, a promise and a memory alike, Kradskonti, Drongundum and the Az-Dreugidum in glittering gold, bright and defiant in the face of the world's darkness, its cruelty, its evil. To the top, Karaz-Kazak-Rhun, also trimmed in gold. To the left, Azulokrid. To the bottom, Zharrvengryn. And to the right, Onkegruni, Morgrim's patrimony from his father. This, trimmed with silver knotwork, and the negative space filled with jewels. This is all on Ancient Wyrm Hide.

The pole to hold the banner is carved from Dronwut. At the top, Zorn and from there, spiralling downward like a miner descending the shaft, the long line of holds established by the Ancestors as they parted. A grip of Ancient Troll Hide dyed vivid teal breaks up the otherwise stoney color of the Dronwut, the color scheme further assisted by the seven jewels up top and the seven jewels below that mark the grip. The jewels are socketed in bands of pure gold.

Runically, the Eternal Light will bear:

The Master Rune of Ancestral Aegis (T4 Relevant Reagent): Resilience, protection, and defiance. The most terrible of blows, healing, and spite, raw, naked, and well-deserved, towards the Daemonic.

Warding (T4 Adamant): Mighty, resilient, unyielding and unbreaking. The already potent defensive powers of the Aegis improved, endowed the certitude and purity of the best of metals, taken to a higher, brighter, unblemished level.

Stone (T4 Ancient Greedy Troll's Heart): If harmed, they shall not be slain; if struck, they shall not be wounded; if surrounded, they shall overcome, shining brighter than ever. Hard, hard and mighty indeed the warriors.

An unfalling force, shining, remembering, even in the blackest, darkest, most terrible night, when even the stars themselves seem to have burned out.
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Inspiration source.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)
[X] Plan: Go all Out
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.

Can we make Dedicated General Facilities at both the Anvil and inside Khazagar? It doesn't have to be at the same turn, but I do like the idea of Runesmiths, Engineers, and Metalsmiths eventually collaborating with building superheavy Warwolf-sized siege engine monstrosities. Basically:
  • Runesmiths experimenting with runes that blur the lines between Structural Runes and other types of runes.
  • Engineers scaling up existing mechanisms and adding even more features with the extra space afforded to them.
  • Metalsmiths testing various types of strong, lightweight alloys to deal with the Square-Cube Law weight issues that will inevitably crop up.
There's also the fact that anything built at this scale can feasibly use the Rune of Torsion for propulsion as its large internal volume can easily house the walk-in closet-sized gearbox required to make the rune usable, so literal Landships and Battle Fortresses might actually be possible.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)
[X] Plan: Go all Out
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.

Can we make Dedicated General Facilities at both the Anvil and inside Khazagar? It doesn't have to be at the same turn, but I do like the idea of Runesmiths, Engineers, and Metalsmiths eventually collaborating with building superheavy Warwolf-sized siege engine monstrosities. Basically:
  • Runesmiths experimenting with runes that blur the lines between Structural Runes and other types of runes.
  • Engineers scaling up existing mechanisms and adding even more features with the extra space afforded to them.
  • Metalsmiths testing various types of strong, lightweight alloys to deal with the Square-Cube Law weight issues that will inevitably crop up.
There's also the fact that anything built at this scale can feasibly use the Rune of Torsion for propulsion as its large internal volume can easily house the walk-in closet-sized gearbox required to make the rune usable, so literal Landships and Battle Fortresses might actually be possible.
Its a neat idea, though the Rune of Torsion rotates at a speed roughly equivalent to one rotation per day so its not actually good for propulsion.

Whenever we'd want to build such a place, we'd have to create a Write-In for it, which is easy enough.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Nain talking to other Runesmiths about his work expanding the lift.
Excited to see more about Nain's new infra passion.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
[X] Plan: Glorious Vision, Help Ornsmotek and Support Grimgal
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
It occurs to me that if our Grandnoodle is going to war with us then we should make her something to keep her safe. Sounds like armor is already being covered by her siblings so that leaves talismen/trinkets/banners.

Or warchompers. A dragon's bite is already deadly so you can pull all sorts of shenanigans for double strikes, faster attacks, and transversal for unexpected assaults.
More serious, less Memey answer since you've sent me down this rabbit hole:

M.Grungni (Talismanic)/Stone/Iron, for increased durability and protection from what I consider to be the realest threat, "Some big dude tries to make like Waylon Jones and throw a rock or something at her."

Simple kind of thing, good Wutroth plate with precious stones around Grungni's face on a thread of silver? Feel free to ignore design for Runes if desired, but I am sleepy and going to sleep soon.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
"I am Izgrom!"

"—so what's the impetus behind this lasses?"

Grimgal turns her head away from the rubble pile to look at you.

"War comes. We wish to test our mettle against them."

You blink, and Karstah coughs.

Suspiciously, neither of her brothers seem to react.
They've been plotting this for a decade by the way. Zharrok started secluding himself for his Masterwork last turn. Cahoots! Lol
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Social:] Dreng dueling the Hearth Guard in a friendly spar.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi gifting Ironwing and his mate new sets of armour on their anniversary.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.
 
[X] Plan: Glorious Vision, Help Ornsmotek and Support Grimgal
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Phoenix King Bel Shanaar [Standard]
[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.

[X] [Social:] Tholinn being forced to endure social interaction with others.
[X] [Social:] Nain talking to other Runesmiths about his work expanding the lift.
 
[X] Plan: A Crack In The Consternation (Turn 58)
[X] Plan: Glorious Vision, Help Ornsmotek and Support Grimgal

[X] Plan: Go all Out

[X] [Grimgal:] Accept.

[X] [Social:] Nain talking to other Runesmiths about his work expanding the lift.
[X] [Social:] Tholinn being forced to endure social interaction with others.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about Nagarythe [Insightful]
 
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More serious, less Memey answer since you've sent me down this rabbit hole:

M.Grungni (Talismanic)/Stone/Iron, for increased durability and protection from what I consider to be the realest threat, "Some big dude tries to make like Waylon Jones and throw a rock or something at her."

Simple kind of thing, good Wutroth plate with precious stones around Grungni's face on a thread of silver? Feel free to ignore design for Runes if desired, but I am sleepy and going to sleep soon.
...you
You want to give a dragon wooden armour? Even if it is a talisman...
 
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