Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

Don't go off half-cocked when we are two steps from the final lap.

I rarely vote, but I'm for this. I don't know how elves do things in this setting, but IIRC real-life slavers checked the teeth of captives before purchase, as a quick way of determining their hygiene without too in-depth of an examination. Plus Kerillian already has something shoved in her mouth that constantly forces it open, I don't think hiding a bomb in there will stand up to scrutiny if they decide to keep it. And regarding bombs, while Druuchii are prideful in the extreme, they are capable of learning. Should they discover the bombs somehow, they'll know that someone has been making black powder bombs. Like the humans use. Then they'll start putting two and two together and remembering that the gun-loving human that seems to be an eerily aware and awake Terror is in Hultressa's possession and has rarely left her side this entire time. They're going to suspect something, and as conspiratorial and paranoid as the Druuchi are, it's all too likely that they'll find the rest of the bombs we've hidden away once they realize that human-made black powder explosives are in play.

Things have gone terrifyingly well this whole arc, and I do not want to risk any deviation from the plan lest the other shoe drop. One screw-up here could cause the entire thing to unravel and get us all killed or worse. As arrogant as the Druuchi are, they are still millennia-old survivors of power struggles and secret plots just like this one. Just because our plot involves gunpowder and evades magical detection doesn't make our enemies any less competent at this, and if we give them a chance to adjust, the Ark's collective experience and paranoia will come down on us like a ton of bricks. Or a particularly cursed island.

And of course, there's the fact that as arrogant as Druuchi and elves in general are, Hultressa is one of them. There's nothing that says that she too cannot be blinded by hubris, just as they are, especially since she's effectively trying to take on an entire island of elves that may be even more experienced than she is with only a few people at her back. I have confidence in her abilities, but not so much that I would take any unnecessary risks in such a ludicrously dangerous scenario.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

We can't tip our hand too soon.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

Patience guys. Besides any additional suffering on their part is moot, they're unlikely to be roughed up further as the auction is literally happening right now.

The assistance the bombs might provide will be small, and whatever relief we manage to give them will be minimal, and not worth risking all the advantages we'd painstakingly managed to secure

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

If someone could be so kind as to remind me, what's the plan to nab Sadrina? I was under the impression that we'd massacre the Druchii at the auction and run off with her, but the most recent update and the player's responses to makes me feel that isn't true anymore, if it ever was.

iggyfan said:

If someone could be so kind as to remind me, what's the plan to nab Sadrina? I was under the impression that we'd massacre the Druchii at the auction and run off with her, but the most recent update and the player's responses to makes me feel that isn't true anymore, if it ever was.

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Sadrina is always too heavily guarded, and under too much scrutiny to ever break her free.

IIRC, I think the plan is still up in the air for the most part, but the current plan for Hultressa to purchase Kerillian and the Bretonnians, where there is less competition, and for the rest of the Druchii to compete over Sadrina.

I assume when Sadrina is brought to the forefront of the auction, that's when we set off the bombs (to cause disruption and to hopefully cause Alyssa to thin her loyalists and send off elves to investigate) and start attacking the Druchii in earnest.

Hopefully, the religious tensions, the political tensions between the Two Arks, and general Druchii opportunism will turn this into a battle royale.

poor first roll and bang average second, but nothing disastrous yet though neither great either. Pls RNGesus get us through this!

Seeing Johanna want to know more about what our boyo went to was funny

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

[X] Punitive: You could pull these four out of these cages right now. The Cult of Khaine is not particularly strong here. It would be difficult, but you have little doubt that you could fight your way out of here. But that might not even be necessary. Hultressa is an incredibly powerful spellcaster. Could she not provide illusions of a sort to make it seem like the prisoners are still there? Perhaps. But you aren't here for just them, you're here for Sadrina. Instead, you might provide some small bombs. It wouldn't do much. It would be as much to make them trust you than anything else, and in the most horrific of needs, to provide a way out if you can't actually rescue them. On the darkest, most ruthless level, them managing to do that much to themselves in the auction would be bad for Alyssa as well

The point isnt to bust them up but to build trust.

I reiterate, remember how Eldyra was shown multiple false hope for rescue? This could affect them when they are pulled later for rescue and just plain refuse to not leave out of paranoia.

Best is to at least build a small trust, that at least, hultressa wants them for a completely different reason or spite against the Druichii for her own machinations (which is far more beliavable).

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

[X] Punitive: You could pull these four out of these cages right now. The Cult of Khaine is not particularly strong here. It would be difficult, but you have little doubt that you could fight your way out of here. But that might not even be necessary. Hultressa is an incredibly powerful spellcaster. Could she not provide illusions of a sort to make it seem like the prisoners are still there? Perhaps. But you aren't here for just them, you're here for Sadrina. Instead, you might provide some small bombs. It wouldn't do much. It would be as much to make them trust you than anything else, and in the most horrific of needs, to provide a way out if you can't actually rescue them. On the darkest, most ruthless level, them managing to do that much to themselves in the auction would be bad for Alyssa as well.

[X] Punitive: You could pull these four out of these cages right now. The Cult of Khaine is not particularly strong here. It would be difficult, but you have little doubt that you could fight your way out of here. But that might not even be necessary. Hultressa is an incredibly powerful spellcaster. Could she not provide illusions of a sort to make it seem like the prisoners are still there? Perhaps. But you aren't here for just them, you're here for Sadrina. Instead, you might provide some small bombs. It wouldn't do much. It would be as much to make them trust you than anything else, and in the most horrific of needs, to provide a way out if you can't actually rescue them. On the darkest, most ruthless level, them managing to do that much to themselves in the auction would be bad for Alyssa as well.

[X] Patience

[X] Punitive: You could pull these four out of these cages right now. The Cult of Khaine is not particularly strong here. It would be difficult, but you have little doubt that you could fight your way out of here. But that might not even be necessary. Hultressa is an incredibly powerful spellcaster. Could she not provide illusions of a sort to make it seem like the prisoners are still there? Perhaps. But you aren't here for just them, you're here for Sadrina. Instead, you might provide some small bombs. It wouldn't do much. It would be as much to make them trust you than anything else, and in the most horrific of needs, to provide a way out if you can't actually rescue them. On the darkest, most ruthless level, them managing to do that much to themselves in the auction would be bad for Alyssa as well.

Hope we will have chance to arm and armor escapees when ready since as said they are totally naked.

They will need it when we make our escape most likely.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

Restalaan said:

The point isnt to bust them up but to build trust.

I reiterate, remember how Eldyra was shown multiple false hope for rescue? This could affect them when they are pulled later for rescue and just plain refuse to not leave out of paranoia.

Best is to at least build a small trust, that at least, hultressa wants them for a completely different reason or spite against the Druichii for her own machinations (which is far more beliavable).

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Trust? Here? We need to get them out right now. And when the shooting starts, we'll need people who can blow up our enemies from behind!

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer

I hate this but where so close, Too close to risk this, and I'm a risk taker! They need to wait just a little while longer, doesn't mean we can't comfort them.

NCRTrooper said:

Gotta say, you've done an excellent job showing just how fucked Druchii society really is. But this bit in particular really lays it on how depraved the Druchii can get.

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Myeah.

Whether you worship the Scorpion Prince in a hovel or the Lord of Murder in Har Ganeth, Khaine is for the most part freaking crazy and monstrous in these aspects. He is the God of War and Murder, after all. Literally one of his scripture books is the Parables of Sundered Flesh. This is the God that Malekith claims to be the worldly incarnation of, that he has raised higher than any other Cytharai to supremacy, that infiltrates and affects all aspects of Druchii life.

These are the Druchii that Malekith, Morathi, and Hellebron have spent many thousands of years crafting and keeping in the state they find most pleasing and useful for their purposes.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer

[X] Punitive: You could pull these four out of these cages right now. The Cult of Khaine is not particularly strong here. It would be difficult, but you have little doubt that you could fight your way out of here. But that might not even be necessary. Hultressa is an incredibly powerful spellcaster. Could she not provide illusions of a sort to make it seem like the prisoners are still there? Perhaps. But you aren't here for just them, you're here for Sadrina. Instead, you might provide some small bombs. It wouldn't do much. It would be as much to make them trust you than anything else, and in the most horrific of needs, to provide a way out if you can't actually rescue them. On the darkest, most ruthless level, them managing to do that much to themselves in the auction would be bad for Alyssa as well.

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.

Alright, I've thought it over and I'm gonna go for-

[X] Patience: Too much amiss, and you might miss out on your chance to rescue Sadrina entirely. Horrifically, the Handmaiden might well be worth more to most interested parties than either Kerillian or the remaining Whitewings. On the other, more positively looking hand, if you make sure that nothing is too much wrong with them such as trying to hide bombs in their mouths or anything like that, Hultressa might well be able to more smoothly purchase them and bring them to immediate safety. She is more than wealthy enough, and has announced her desires already, so it can't be taken remiss if she wishes to purchase them. If you judge matters incorrectly, either way, it would be bad for these prisoners regardless. You just have to hope you're making the right decision in letting them be as they are, even if it is only for a short while longer.