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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Imperial Fister said:
The glasses are for your fylgja, yes?

What do you think corresponds best with Halla?
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I 100% vote Forged Iron then. Halla is a smith, and not primarily of fancy stuff...well, it's fancy only inasmuch as her skill makes them fancy. Plus Owl Bone Ash, obviously (which would not work with whale bone).

Shard said:
Molten Iron?
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Not Molten...that may be too combat oriented, I'm inclined to agree.

The Lone badger said:
I don't think owls have the right kind of ears to be able to wear glasses so they?
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The idea is for the Owl to possess the glasses while Halla is wearing them.
 
I mean, I'll spend a Reward Die to get a full rundown of the Pros/Cons of Whalebone vs Forged Iron vs Other Options for our glasses frame, can I do that @Imperial Fister ?
 
Imperial Fister said:
What do you want the glasses to do?
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I don't even know what they could do! We have a form in mind, but we don't even know what Actualization properly does, so we're pretty much flying blind as to the effects.

Personally, I'm interested in utility or improving Seersight or maybe giving us the effects of Seeing Eyes, but I might be underplaying what it could do. The whole system's a black box so far, which makes any educated guesses pretty hard to reach.
 
Catching up with the update after the migraine goblins decided to stop banging their tiny hammers in my skull:

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Asgeirr smiles as he nods, hair brushing against your palm, "I understand," blood drips down the bronze sphere in his hand as he grits his teeth into a smile, "I'll split their skulls if they call you that word again!"

...He doesn't know what 'whore' means, does he? All he knew is that it was an insult and that was enough for him to start swinging.

"Try your best not to do it on sacred ground, though," you nod towards the oak tree standing atop the hill, "for such things dishonor the Gods and earns their enmity."

"I will," Asgeirr nods as his eyes slide towards the distance, where Sigurdr and Audvik make their way into the trees, "Can I go play with Siggy?"

Audrikr grimaces as your lips thin, "Well... As long as you promise to not hurt anyone, then alright. Real men keep their word at all costs, understand?"

"Right!" Asgeirr nods, determination in his eyes, "I promise not to hurt Siggy or that other boy!"

"Good job," you smile before sending him off with a pat on the back.

"That boy's gonna be trouble when he's older," Audrikr mutters as Asgeirr wanders off.

"You're not wrong," you reply before inviting Audrikr and his wife inside for some mead, which you had chilled earlier in the day.
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LMAO

Egil Moment

Imperial Fister said:
Surveillance on Dorri (Human Stealth: 126) 126 Successes. (Owl Stealth: 33) 33 Successes
There's nothing in the bee-box to negotiate with, just a bunch of mindless bee-spirits hollowed out and left with no purpose other than whatever you set for them. It rubs you the wrong way to see spirits undergo such travesty, but there's little you can do for them now—other than put them out of whatever misery they may feel in such a state, of course.

However, there's no reason you shouldn't use them while you can, right? After all, it's not like it's hurting them, right?

'I don't see any problems with it,' Blackhand shrugs as you have your rag-dressed fylgja slip the box underneath Dorri's porch in the dead of night. Nestling the box inside a dust-covered and vine-choked plow, you open the lid and, with a surge of willpower, give the bee-spirits that which you will them do.
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Hmm, I kinda want to help the bee spirits now. Maybe they need a queen, or a hive? Or some honey?

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A voice like moss-covered rocks creaks from the tree hollow as its owner rasps and wheezes, "Like the well-trained dog, you've come when your master bade. You've come far since we first met, Dorri-called-Rattlespear."

Dorri bites back a sharp retort as he sighs, "Get to the point, Drysalt. Have you come up with a solution to the 'problem' or not?"

"Come now, Dorri," Drysalt's laugh is like an echo cut short, "surely a girl like her is no problem for one such as you? Do you really need my help?"

Dorri makes a horrid sound in the back of his throat, "You know the answer to that already. It's not her strength that's the problem."

"Oh I know full-well the problem you have," though you can't see the smile on Drysalt's face, you know it's there all the same, "I just want to hear it from your lips."

"Fine." Dorri growls as he grits his teeth, the graybeard looking to all the world like a scolded puppy being put through remedial training. "I need your help," he spits the words out like they're poison, "There, are you happy?"

Drysalt's chuckles fall like leaden stones in a lake, "Why ask questions you already know the answers to? Don't answer that," Dorri's teeth snap shut as he scowls, "it's rhetorical."
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What an absolute bastard. I love him.

Imperial Fister said:
Regardless, you still managed to capture the Experience of that whole conversation in your soul, despite how much its presence seems to cause your soul to ache.
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIph0BJNrxo
 
Wait. Do we even have a way to source or make glass for the glasses? I know we currently have a pair but are we just gonna make new frames for the glass lenses or make entirely new ones?

Also. Great idea @KittyEmpress. Armor that will simultaneously help with fighting off Christianization and another Heroic Deed for the reverse engineering of the 'enemies' most potent weapon.
 
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I don't think we know either the mathematics involved in calculating a lens shape, or the techniques involved in polishing a piece of glass into that lens
 
Honestly I don't really get the enthusiasm for glasses specifically. Like I don't dislike the idea either, it's Fine, I guess, but it seems a bit random to me. Using our Flygia to power our equivalent of Knightly armour feels like it would be cooler to me, animal spirits inhabiting suits of armour and making them come alive seems cool. In comparison, a story of the Gods that we have to continually focus our attention on is.... eh.

Anyway, as we discussed on Discord, I think our biggest priority should be heading to Folkvangr and speaking to Hasvir. After some discussion, Deadman has convinced me that it can wait until next turn, when we can recruit Hasvir (the alive one) to come with us. Good way to build a friendship, and seems only proper when it's his grandfather after all. Plus Hasvir (the dead one) might react slightly better to seeing his grandson than he will to his killer reincarnated.

Random question, but @Imperial Fister, you know how we were trying to get Firestorm to power a Finale? Would that work with a Rewrite, or if we came up with a custom Alloyed Firestorm Trick just for the purpose? We have an empty research slot this turn and our Rewrites just refreshed, so I thought I'd ask.
 
Skippy said:
Random question, but @Imperial Fister, you know how we were trying to get Firestorm to power a Finale? Would that work with a Rewrite, or if we came up with a custom Alloyed Firestorm Trick just for the purpose? We have an empty research slot this turn and our Rewrites just refreshed, so I thought I'd ask.
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With a Rewrite, sure!

This isn't something you could then lock in with an Alloy or something, to be clear. If you want to use Firestorm to fuel a Finale, you'll have to use a Rewrite every time you do it
 
Imperial Fister said:
With a Rewrite, sure!

This isn't something you could then lock in with an Alloy or something, to be clear. If you want to use Firestorm to fuel a Finale, you'll have to use a Rewrite every time you do it
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Every time?

Well, hmm, that definitely is food for thought... potentially workable, though. Could serious runic support, like a big focusing array, say, help to ameliorate this?
 
Skippy said:
Honestly I don't really get the enthusiasm for glasses specifically. Like I don't dislike the idea either, it's Fine, I guess, but it seems a bit random to me. Using our Flygia to power our equivalent of Knightly armour feels like it would be cooler to me, animal spirits inhabiting suits of armour and making them come alive seems cool. In comparison, a story of the Gods that we have to continually focus our attention on is.... eh.
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We give up a huge amount of power in combat by putting a Fylgja into armor...having it outside our soulscape while fighting is also very risky, even if it is in something durable. A non-combat Fylgja Actualization option is a lot more interesting and useful, IMO. Also, the idea of having a Saga on our armor sounds quite awesome to me.

Glasses aren't the only option, certainly, but something non-combat seems correct.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
We give up a huge amount of power in combat by putting a Fylgja into armor...having it outside our soulscape while fighting is also very risky, even if it is in something durable. A non-combat Fylgja Actualization option is a lot more interesting and useful, IMO. Also, the idea of having a Saga on our armor sounds quite awesome to me.

Glasses aren't the only option, certainly, but something non-combat seems correct.
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Are our Flygiur and Flygia the same thing, exactly? IF on the last page seemed to imply they weren't, and I vaguely recall something about them being different, but could be misremembering.

If we lose acccess to Fasts, then that would be annoying.
 
Skippy said:
Are our Flygiur and Flygia the same thing, exactly? IF on the last page seemed to imply they weren't, and I vaguely recall something about them being different, but could be misremembering.

If we lose acccess to Fasts, then that would be annoying.
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They're the same thing, yeah. And we might still have access to Fasts, but not the ability to quick-load from Fylgja Capacity via our Fylgja putting things from it into an Armory Pocket. Doing that on a combat time scale is the cool thing we do that most people can't.

Like, the cool thing about Armory Pockets as opposed to Fylgja Capacity or other Pockets is being able to quick draw stuff like shields. And that requires our fylgja to be in our soulscape to really abuse the specific exploit we've found.
 
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[X] Plan Welcome Gifts

If we want to fix our Soulscape ecology, maybe we need to introduce more life?

We can start bringing in more animals of various types and more plants.

Maybe we can try to feed a Spirit with an Expirience of farming? So they will start a farm of their own in our Soulscape?
 
I think if the current explanation of our soulscape as 'materials', we need to bring in the equivalent of 'craftsmen' or 'farmers'.
 
Added some additional Runes and a bit of Odr to the items we're crafting, and adding mundane animals to our soulscape as the final research action, at least for now.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
--[X] Our remaining retainers should have their Fylgja revealed by now, I think. What are they?
--[X] See if we can follow Brimir's instructions on Sword Stepping(attempting with both sword and atgeir) – 1 Research
--[X] Continue our Slavic Language Lessons (and reciprocal Norse ones) – 2 Research
--[X] Get information on Hakon Thunderclap – 1 Research
--[X] Get information about how Logi Firehair fights – 1 Research
--[X] Attempt to duplicate the seeming intent of the prayers on Knightly Armor with our own Gods and system of cultivation, effectively writing a saga upon it focused on the glories of a God. For this first test, specifically aim for talking about Odin. – 1 Research
--[X] Start adding more mundane animals to our soulscape to establish an ecosystem – 1 Research
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maybe make a sacrifice to Odin as we make the armor 'prayers?'. some more ideas for that
hear a skald tell tales from a saga of a hero or a god, and channel it into the armor. and try telling such story ourselves as we make the armor.

also, making a sacrfice to Odin to ask for his favour in the coming conflict might be possible? not sure how those work, but thematically at least it fits.

about training, do we want to try for Stoker State 9 after Hugr is done? it would combo well with Father's Owl.

next summer we can't do expeditions right? so the tournament might be a good way to increase our fame and gather potential allies. if we can do an expedition Vestfold ASAP is probably our best route, though if we can manage it visiting Skane as well might be a good idea. thats a whole village worth of powerful allies to help us avenge Steinnar and protect our bloodline.

edit:actually, while a tale of the gods is an interesting idea, we can possibly make an armor with our own Saga? probably start with Odin, but really, the Norse gods aren't a special being like christian God. nor do we normally draw on their glory- we draw on ours. so it makes sense to me that an armor can also work with his wearer's saga
 
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Blademaster said:
maybe make a sacrifice to Odin as we make the armor 'prayers?'. some more ideas for that
hear a skald tell tales from a saga of a hero or a god, and channel it into the armor. and try telling such story ourselves as we make the armor.

also, making a sacrfice to Odin to ask for his favour in the coming conflict might be possible? not sure how those work, but thematically at least it fits.
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In the long run possibly, but this is an unusable wooden prototype we're making as proof of concept here rather than a finished product. Expending actual resources on it doesn't seem wise.

Blademaster said:
about training, do we want to try for Stoker State 9 after Hugr is done? it would combo well with Father's Owl.
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Stoker State 9 is very expensive for what it grants, at least in terms of known stuff. The hope, I think, is to pick up at least one more Martial Style and get to a decent rating in that, which, if we can pull it off, is a lot cheaper and hopefully provides some actually unique stuff.

Blademaster said:
next summer we can't do expeditions right? so the tournament might be a good way to increase our fame and gather potential allies. if we can do an expedition Vestfold ASAP is probably our best route, though if we can manage it visiting Skane as well might be a good idea. thats a whole village worth of powerful allies to help us avenge Steinnar and protect our bloodline.
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IF has specifically stated he'd prefer we lay off expeditions for a while and just abandon the tournament idea entirely. That said, we can send other people to recruit allies if we have a specific time frame...and we kinda do. So we can indeed call in the people from Skane, potentially, just not via going there personally.

Blademaster said:
edit:actually, while a tale of the gods is an interesting idea, we can possibly make an armor with our own Saga? probably start with Odin, but really, the Norse gods aren't a special being like christian God. nor do we normally draw on their glory- we draw on ours. so it makes sense to me that an armor can also work with his wearer's saga
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This is possible, but I suspect it'll work to grant some semblance and degree of the powers of the being who it's a Saga to, which means the more powerful they are the better, and the Gods are the most powerful option readily available. We're also hoping to use it to increase religious dedication among the Norse and forestall conversion to Christianity so there are some other reasons to leave it God focused.
 
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Blademaster said:
probably start with Odin, but really, the Norse gods aren't a special being like christian God. nor do we normally draw on their glory- we draw on ours. so it makes sense to me that an armor can also work with his wearer's saga
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Drawing on your own Saga makes no sense to me if the idea is using the strength of glories to enhance yourself through the armor, unless you're someone like Steinnar who has weakened from the past - we already draw on our glory, that's what Orthstirr is.

Drawing on the glories of the gods makes sense because their glories are much higher and they are venerated. You're right that their glories aren't usually drawn on, that's... why it would be something new, instead of something we already do. The whole idea for norsely armor was to adapt something from Christianity to make something New and Different that might integrate into Norse Cultivation to make it stronger. It being something we don't normally do was the entire Intention behind it.

Drawing on glories of heroes of Sagas also makes sense to me, though I obviously prefer the idea of the gods because Resisting Christianization Is important. Still, it makes sense that we might create armor to sigurdr and draw upon his strength. Hero-worship isn't an odd creation either.

It doesn't really make sense to me to create an armor to Halla for Halla to wear, because she already calls on her own strength all the time. An armor to Blackhand maybe, or Halla's children creating an armor of Halla's Saga and drawing on it maybe.
 
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