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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • Schehera Zade said:
    Yeah, the first book came out February and the second in October. If he read it, it'd only be the first one.
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    Okay fine, I can switch it to Well-Known fan, but you were the one who made the pitch and I just wanted to support the creation of such a good idea. Overall I just want to reiterate that for my plan I didn't want Bruce to do anything too grandiose or business orientated so he would stay focused on his family and wouldn't go down a mental spiral. Once Bruce is in the right headspace I'm fine with doing more ambitious stuff.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    Yeah, and Bruce really loved them so much that he wants to buy them. Movie studios buying the rights to books immediately after release happen very often. It was the same with Scarface and Forrest Gump. Here it's mainly motivated by Bruce having a nice time reading them with Mary, and after nearly losing his life, he wants to make some nice memories for Mary and continue making movies for her and the kids. If everyone thinks it's too soon, I'll switch it to Well-known fan.
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    My complaint about that was from the perspective that I can't find the original release date, meaning that for all we know, they either don't come out until after Q3-Q4 or that it isn't in popular circulation until later in the year, likely around the holidays.

    And most of the time, that happens when publishers have a close relationship with the studios which, as far as I know, we've never really bothered setting up.
    Schehera Zade said:
    Yeah, the first book came out February and the second in October. If he read it, it'd only be the first one. It wouldn't be a problem necessarily, just adding context.
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    Where'd you find that info? Been having trouble with published works like that before '98.
     
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    Kaiser Chris said:
    Okay fine, I can switch it to Well-Known fan, but you were the one who made the pitch and I just wanted to support the creation of such a good idea. Overall I just want to reiterate that for my plan I didn't want Bruce to do anything too grandiose or business orientated so he would stay focused on his family and wouldn't go down a mental spiral. Once Bruce is in the right headspace I'm fine with doing more ambitious stuff.
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    You missed my edit.
    Schehera Zade said:
    Yeah, the first book came out February and the second in October. If he read it, it'd only be the first one. It wouldn't be a problem necessarily, just adding context.
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    I don't actually disagree with your arguments in favor of getting Cam Jansen now. Like I said, I'm just adding context by making a small correction.


    Orion Ultor said:
    Where'd you find that info? Been having trouble with published works like that before '98.
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    I just looked up "Cam Jansen Books Release Date." Here's the site I used.
    www.fictiondb.com

    Cam Jansen

    Series list: Cam Jansen (36 Books) by David A. Adler. A sortable list in reading order and chronological order with publication date, genre, and rating.
    www.fictiondb.com www.fictiondb.com
     
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    Kaiser Chris said:
    -[X]Workout: A Healthy Mind and a Healthy Body are Key to having a good life, and you have been slacking as of late. Time to hit the workout and discipline, and perhaps, see things differently. DC: 30 Reward: You work out and feel better.
    -[X]Calling You're Parents: You are going to call your parents and see what they want. DC: 10
    -[X] Political Campaign. $25 Million. Now that you're invested in politics after the RNC, you want to make an impact in statewide politics. Spend some money to fund ads and grassroots organization in support of the passage of California Ballot Propositions 2 and 10.
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    I would go for some more networking actions here, there are plenty of Franco-Belgian comics that are would make for great shows like Lucky Luke , the Smurfs, Papyrus...

    And we could easily get the rights for "Once upon a time... Man" one of the most legendary European animated series that Mary would enjoy and which set the stage to get to the rest of the "Once upon a Time" franchise which was pretty big in the 80s and 90s...
    Orion Ultor said:
    Ah, I see, you have no valid argument besides the emotional kneejerk, so you resort to calling the plan stupid.

    This ends the debate with you, then, especially considering you've outright ignored Schehera Zade's very well articulated points on the matter.
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    So thinking that when provoked, a brutal dictatorship will retaliate is stupid kneejerk?

    But regarding the points that @Schehera Zade made, I didn´t answer them because I was on the phone and am still really unconvinced... I am not worried about them attacking the campus itself, I agree that they are not that stupid, but entering their direct sphere of influence in a way that can only be described as major provocation means that there will be a response, and are many things that they can do to screw us over chiefly among them retaliating over the guys who work for us and their families, but not the only one...

    And I may be a cynic but I don´t really see how a dictatorship punishing a few of their people for being associated with us or using their influence to make things more difficult for Lucasfilm is going to cause a major international incident... I mean just take a look at the state of the UN nowadays.

    And about China giving up Hong Kong and Macao, well that would be great but I am all for waiting until things are slightly less tense before doing that... We have at least 4 years to make our move, and in something as delicate as this one we should not act like a bull in a china shop.
     
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    Fanhunter696 said:
    So thinking that when provoked, a brutal dictatorship will retaliate is stupid kneejerk?

    But regarding the points that @Schehera Zade made, I didn´t answer them because I was on the phone and am still really unconvinced... I am not worried about them attacking the campus itself, I agree that they are not that stupid, but entering their direct sphere of influence in a way that can only be described as major provocation means that there will be a response, and are many things that they can do to screw us over chiefly among them retaliating over the guys who work for us and their families...

    And I may be a cynic but I don´t really see how a dictatorship punishing a few of their people for being associated with us is going to cause a major international incident... I mean just take a look at the state of the UN nowadays.

    And about China giving up Hong Kong and Macao, well that would be great but I am all for waiting until things are slightly less tense before doing that... We have at least 4 years to make our move, and in something as delicate as this one we should not act like a bull in a china shop.
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    I'll address this in the morning. Right now, my headache is killing me and my cough is only making my headache worse.
     
    Fanhunter696 said:
    I would go for some more networking actions here, there are plenty of Franco-Belgian comics that are would make for great shows like Lucky Luck, the Smurfs, Papyrus...

    And we could easily get the rights for "Once upon a time... Man" one of the most legendary European animated series that Mary would enjoy and which set the stage to get to the rest of the "Once upon a Time" franchise which was pretty big in the 80s and 90s...
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    You know, this brings to mind that Henson project that never got made, yet we could do it with our animation department.

    I'm talking of course of Jim Henson's Tale of Sand. He wrote it in the 50s, worked it with Jerry Juhl through the 60's and early 70's, and never got to do it while he lived.

    I say we talk to him and offer to make it a reality.
     
    overmind said:
    You know, this brings to mind that Henson project that never got made, yet we could do it with our animation department.

    I'm talking of course of Jim Henson's Tale of Sand. He wrote it in the 50s, worked it with Jerry Juhl through the 60's and early 70's, and never got to do it while he lived.

    I say we talk to him and offer to make it a reality.
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    That would be pretty awesome I love Tale of Sand...

    Another extremely solid investment would be buying Hana Barbera, both for it's library of comten and because it will make Dreamworks much bigger and capable of making even more movies/series per year...
     
    Fanhunter696 said:
    So thinking that when provoked, a brutal dictatorship will retaliate is stupid kneejerk?
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    No, it's the fact that you used it three times to emphasize what you felt about the plan, the first being used in an overly sarcastic manner, the second and third essentially being the same statement made twice, with any difference between the two being semantics.
    Fanhunter696 said:
    Yeah, doing nothing is WAAAAAY better than doing something stupid...

    And this is stupidly dangerous and dangerously stupid, especially when you consider that you are painting a target on the back to anyone in hong Kong that decides to work with us...
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    Fanhunter696 said:
    But regarding the points that @Schehera Zade made, I didn´t answer them because I was on the phone and am still really unconvinced...
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    If you're going to respond to somebody else's post, at the very least quote the parts of their argument you disagree with, regardless of interface or time constraints, as that's a basic courtesy.
    Fanhunter696 said:
    I am not worried about them attacking the campus itself, I agree that they are not that stupid, but entering their direct sphere of influence in a way that can only be described as major provocation means that there will be a response, and are many things that they can do to screw us over chiefly among them retaliating over the guys who work for us and their families...

    And I may be a cynic but I don´t really see how a dictatorship punishing a few of their people for being associated with us is going to cause a major international incident... I mean just take a look at the state of the UN nowadays.

    And about China giving up Hong Kong and Macao, well that would be great but I am all for waiting until things are slightly less tense before doing that... We have at least 4 years to make our move, and in something as delicate as this one we should not act like a bull in a china shop.
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    As for the rest, I've already made my stance on this clear, very clear, in multiple other responses to your previous statements, you however, keep repeating the same argument over and over again in a fearmongering manner that ultimately boils down to the one you made in your initial post.
     
    Orion Ultor said:
    [X] Be Water, My Friend II: Aquatic Bugaloo
    -[X] Upgrade Lucasfilms    : You are going to spend boat loads of money to make a better place to work (Begin a Upgrade Lucasfilms Miniturn)
    -[X] Everyone wants to help: Seems that everyone is waiting for you. "I want to give you something to do. Everyone is here, so we're all going to work on something." Mike said. DC: ???
    -[X] Investing in the Future: You want to Spend some of that money you made into the company and make the whole thing better DC: ??? (Linetail what you want to invest in, and how much money you want to invest in it)
    --[X] Lucasfilm Hong Kong: Azure Dragon Campus [$100 Million]: Lucasfilm envisions expanding its presence into Hong Kong, a bustling city with a vibrant cultural landscape and a thriving film industry. The plan is to establish the Azure Dragon Campus as a state-of-the-art production hub for film, television, and digital content. The studio will feature cutting-edge facilities for pre-production, production, post-production, and visual effects, tailored to meet the unique needs of Hong Kong storytelling. By tapping into Hong Kong's diverse talent pool of actors, filmmakers, writers, and technicians, Lucasfilm aims to collaborate with local creatives and showcase the city's captivating culture through compelling content. The studio will actively contribute to the growth of Hong Kong's film industry, forging partnerships with local production companies, educational institutions, and government entities to nurture talent, drive economic growth, and position Hong Kong as a prominent global entertainment hub. Through strategic collaborations and a deep appreciation for Hong Kong's rich heritage and dynamic communities, the Lunar Mansion Campus aims to showcase the city's unique perspectives, promote cultural exchange, and create captivating narratives that resonate with audiences worldwide, while bolstering the growth and recognition of the Hong Kong film industry.
    ---[X] Given current state of affairs with Carrie and the twins, instead of traveling to business men in Hong Kong, invite them and their representatives to negotiate these sales in LA on your dime; you also plan on having Mike and your dad there to help with negotiations. Due to his past actions, and especially for helping Mike out, you'd also like personally invite Jackie Chan to be a part of the proceedings, to have him [hopefully] be the face of Lucasfilm Unlimited in Hong Kong.
    ---[X] Attempt to have a discrete, private conversation with Agent Jackson, where in exchange of keeping your honest workers (ie not any Red or Corpo spies) and their families safe from reprisal, you are willing to let the CIA use the Hong Kong Campus as a staging ground of sorts into Red China for their agents, as is your Patriotic Duty.
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    I know this has already been an argument, but I don't want to do any investments into Hong Kong besides filming Kung Fu Kid. I understand Orion's reasonings, but I'm just not comfortable to develop anything long-term there when it's eventually gonna become a PRC city and I can totally see the PRC out of spite just siezing the studio with emminent domain and then demolishing everything. Unless Magoose states that Hong Kong will remain a British colony or go independent, I think it's highly unwise to invest in anything there long term.

    Also I doubt that the CIA needs Lucasfilms Hong Kong to conduct operations in the PRC. They've likely been well established for well over a decade, not to mention Hong Kong is MI6's turf. There are far more effective ways to take down the PRC and I don't want to poke the dragon through this.

    Orion Ultor said:
    -[X] A Charitable Heart: You want to invest your newfound wealth. Maybe even save some lives while you are at it. (Linetail what you wish to invest in below this action, and the amount of money you want to donate in)
    --[X] The O'Reilly Foundation Expansion [$250 Million]: It's no longer enough to just operate within the confines of California, so this Independence Day you're proud to announce the Charity is expanding to help military members [active duty and reserves] and veterans across the entire nation and its territories. To announce and celebrate this, continuing the tradition, you'll be announcing this at the 6th Annual Independence Day Cookout; as expected, you of course can be found behind the grill helping feed all those attending.
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    This is unnecessary since we've had several O'Reilly actions that have had an effect across the nation. It's expanded to the point that we serve all veterans across the nation, it's just that our base is in California.

    Orion Ultor said:
    -[X] Ask Clint if you can act in a movie of his: You know you want to see if you can act opposite him, for a good time. DC: 40 (Clint wants to work with you.)
    --[X] With not much else going on, you've decided to make good on Clint's offer and star in one of his Westerns on the condition that you'll be close by to your family; and see about getting Robin in on the action, even if only as a supporting character at the very least.
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    I'd love to star in a Clint movie, but now's not a good time since it seems we're about to start production on Batman. My film plan was Batman for the rest of the year, produce Kung Fu Kid in early 1981, star in Rocky III in the spring, and then do Killer Queen in the summer. If we've still got time left in the rest of the year we can do a Clint movie.
     
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    The Communist Negaverse
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    • The Communist Negaverse​
    In a dark gloomy Dacha somwhere around Moscow a certain General Secretary was drinking his woes away.
    Brezhnev was drinking his vodka and smoking his favorite cigarettes that night to forget his pains, the war in Romania, failed assassinations, and the defection of Yugoslavia had all increased his stressed and worry about his grand nations future and he has one man to blame for it Bruce O'Brian, that damned Irish cunt had screwed all his plans and embarrassed his proud nation in front of the world in Romania, it was supposed to be a walk over like Hungary and Czechoslovakia but no this time it had to be different, this time it be another goddamned winter war fiasco, this time someone had to leak their "Purification" of the Romanian people, damn the Irish and damn The Americans he thought as he downed another bottle of vodka feeling a slight tinge of pain in his chest, While he may be alone in his Dacha he isn't the only one in their as Etherial ghost wonders around his dacha.
    Questor1: Well shit

    Questor2: really thats all your gonna say "well shit"

    Q1: What do you expect me to do Apologies hell no its not my fault the dice rolled Nat 1 three times in row.

    Q3: at least the Simp dice is still active for Yugoslavia even if Tito is dead

    Q4: if i get my hands on that Irish Cunt i swear to god im gonna make Guantanamo Bay look like a daycare.

    Q5: we would have put him and his family out of the picture if it weren't for the waste of air over there *looks at Q1*

    Q1: Fuck you Q5 its not my fault that the plot failed

    Q5 : they wouldn't have known who did it if you weren't cheapscake and hired proper hitman instead of using our fucking agents to kill him.

    Q4: and because of you Q1 look at what happened to our fucking embassy in Washington

    *Cut to the Chinese embassy being under siege by a literal horde of gunhoe Americans and raining molotov cocktails*

    Chinese ambassador: *Sips Tea* this is fine.

    Q1: huh fair enough

    Q3: Okay guys we gotta pull ourselves together because at this rate we ain't gonna reach the end of the 80s much less the millennia.

    Q1-Q5: Okay fine

    Q3: Alright thankfully the worse is behind us so le-

    Brezhnev: Blyat!!!
    Suddenly Brezhnev clutches his chest in pain as he falls over the floor, the door opens as a Woman rushes over to his husband lying on the floor in pain.

    Petrovna: Mishia call the doctor Quick!

    Maid: Yes ma'am

    Q3: Well shit
    Although Brezhnev would survive the heart attack, the near death experience along with the discovery of a brain tumor in his head would force him to resign as General Secretary of the USSR soon after.
    Meanwhile in China an unlucky chinese official was put on trial and hanged to serve as their Scapegoat.
     
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    • Magoose said:
    All I'm going to say is that China does not care about where you are. If they want to try and kill you they will keep sending people to kill you.

    They really are that afraid that one of our movies will start a revolution that will see them removed from power and are doing everything in their power to stop that.

    Including trying to kill Bruce.

    But after this fiasco, America is off limits.

    As for America retaliating… well it's company buissness and they will play a spy game.
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    Did this cause any diplomatic changes towards China or East Asia in general? Have relations been normalized with Vietnam?
     
    LucasArts Management Proposal
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    • LucasArts Management Proposal

    One of the biggest core questions that exist with this idea, is how it should be organized, especially in relation to the projects. Video games at the moment are small enough it is not unreasonable to have one man teams go off and make projects by themselves, that is unlikely to stay that way, with improved hardware giving more space and overall potential for coders to work with. For this reason, we need to establish how we re going to manage LucasArts. Whenever we focus on a more traditional method of corporation run studios, groups that are run by the top down. By a manner more similar to our own studio where directors and producers guide passion projects to success. Or, a far more radical take where instead of relying on leadership figures to spearhead projects, we could organize them in a more collaborative manner, organizing by teams instead of leadership.

    The first idea, the more traditional system, wouldn't really work for the same reason it doesn't for Movie studios. because simply put, it is easy for the people on the ground floor, whom make the products the group relies on for success to become too disconnected from leadership. And perhaps most importantly, risks a diverging understanding between management and people working on the ground floor, such as incidents that appeared multiple times such as in the Batman Movie. While the business side is fundamentally important, success can only come from a balance between the forces involved, for if financial matters dominate, it is inevitable that innovation and creativity would be stifled, falling behind due to only being able to chase trends and never anticipate, for to do so would be seen as unacceptable risk precisely because it is new ground.

    The other is the current system used by LucasFilms. Relying on project leads, in the form of Directors and Producers to guide independent projects to success. This system, when let to do it's own work, has been proven to be very successful. Though is reliant on quality creative leadership and financial managers whom are able to work together, leveraging their own strengths while working well enough together to mitigate their own weaknesses. One big problem applying this is well, the field is so new we don't have any real top talent to poach, especially as workers fight with management whom tend to try and avoid having employee recognition to protect their talent from poaching. And then there is the different nature of making video games, because unlike acting, most of the crew works on the framework the experience is built on, with it's nature being influenced by many parts being worked on. A unified vision is important, but at the same time, there are many fields playing an important role in that. Which, is likely going to be a major factor complicating future production as the scale goes beyond the current lone programmer/small teams era.


    The last is very much untested, but is possibly worth perusing. The idea of forming teams that share responsibility, from various growing fields within the gaming space. The biggest challenge as the scale grows, will be the scale itself, for the more people, the more effort needed to keep a unified vision and direction for the whole group, and Using tiered systems of organizations risks bloat, in both the vertical and horizontal direction as growing complexity would bring the need for more staff to complete the projects in reasonable time frames. A team system also has potential in other ways, allowing for the different fields to have more direct influence which could be useful long-term, helping new leaders grow into their role through not shouldering the burden of the project alone, and encouraging creativity as different perspectives can be brought to the table, as well as possibly being better able to handle unexpected issues, assuming the team is able to work together and not clash.

    While Video games are similar to movies in that they are a creative project, they are also different. For video games are a uniquely interactive medium. A step above even choose your own adventure novels. While novels and movies capture parts of the setting through a set frame, video games are far less set and controlled in a traditional manner, with potential limited only by the software and programming. It's potential is great, and yet, the same potential is a unique challenge as one needs to balance the story and experience with the expectations of the player. For this reason, we will need to carefully consider how LucasArts will handle project leadership as the field matures and tech allows for more scope and detail.
     
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    • Kaiser Chris said:
    I know this has already been an argument, but I don't want to do any investments into Hong Kong besides filming Kung Fu Kid. I understand Orion's reasonings, but I'm just not comfortable to develop anything long-term there when it's eventually gonna become a PRC city and I can totally see the PRC out of spite just siezing the studio with emminent domain and then demolishing everything. Unless Magoose states that Hong Kong will remain a British colony or go independent, I think it's highly unwise to invest in anything there long term.
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    He's already made statements that the PRC are willing to leave Hong Kong and Macau alone as our influence spreads, which more than likely means that, if for some reason Britain is unable to maintain control over the territory, it would be given over to Taiwan or made into independent city states.
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    Also I doubt that the CIA needs Lucasfilms Hong Kong to conduct operations in the PRC. They've likely been well established for well over a decade, not to mention Hong Kong is MI6's turf. There are far more effective ways to take down the PRC and I don't want to poke the dragon through this.
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    Oh, they likely don't need the Campus at all to conduct their operations, but given the nature of their operations, it wouldn't hurt for them to have additional resources and outposts to observe enemy operations in a manner that most would overlook.

    As for MI6, @Magoose has stated that in the quest (as often in OTL) they tend to hit a lot of...SNAFUs. It would not surprise me that they're overlooking a lot of nonsense, either intentionally or incompetently.
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    This is unnecessary since we've had several O'Reilly actions that have had an effect across the nation. It's expanded to the point that we serve all veterans across the nation, it's just that our base is in California.
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    While I can appreciate that sentiment, the fact of the matter is is that it continues to state "You want California to help the men who have given nearly everything and more to this country.".

    And in every instance of us using them, it tends to hyperfocus our actions on what goes in the state of California, and, as far as I've seen, barely elaborates on what changes occured elsewhere.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I'd love to star in a Clint movie, but now's not a good time since it seems we're about to start production on Batman. My film plan was Batman for the rest of the year, produce Kung Fu Kid in early 1981, star in Rocky III in the spring, and then do Killer Queen in the summer. If we've still got time left in the rest of the year we can do a Clint movie.
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    I disagree here, based on the text of the vote itself, where it only states that we will act opposite of him. If it's like anything else, it'll be a miniturn for how involved in the project we want to be, which means that we can ask Clint for a fairly minor role that shouldn't eat up too much of our time and let's Bruce get a taste of whether or not he wants to be involved in more Westerns [eventually, I want us to act beside Jensen Ackles in a Western, but that isn't central to the argument].

    Because of that, I don't believe it will get in the way of Batman.
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    --[X] Dacii. You wish to honor your promise to Romania and Sergiu Nicolaescu, time to give one of their best films a grand release.
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    Considering that Empire Strikes Back is likely still in theaters and Smokey and the Bandit II, Xanadu and The Octagon all release this month too, it might be more appropriate to hold off another month for people's wallets to fill back up and where it won't have a whole lotta competition.
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    -[X]A Well-Known Fan: So some really famous person is a fan of yours. Maybe you'll learn who they actually are. DC???
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    It's always been hit or miss here, so I've never really cared for this option. Might be better off choosing something else.
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    --[X] $50 Million. It's the 30th anniversary of the Korean War, and sadly by now it's faded out of public memory save for MASH. You want to give back to Korean vets like Dad and show them some appreciation.
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    Considering our earnings for ESB, the right move will probably be to pump those numbers up at least by $25M to avoid accusations of being stingy with our charity money.

    [EDIT: And I just looked it up, but the 30th anniversary of it "ending", the Armistice signing, isn't for another three years.]
     
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    Orion Ultor said:
    He's already made statements that the PRC are willing to leave Hong Kong and Macau alone as our influence spreads, which more than likely means that, if for some reason Britain is unable to maintain control over the territory, it would be given over to Taiwan or made into independent city states.
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    China giving up Hong Kong and/or macau is as likely as they allowing Taiwan to keep them. Unless Magoose outright says China will not take Hong Kong or Macau back, i'm going at this with the presuposition that they will be back into the fold in 1997 as agreed in OTL
    Orion Ultor said:
    Oh, they likely don't need the Campus at all to conduct their operations, but given the nature of their operations, it wouldn't hurt for them to have additional resources and outposts to observe enemy operations in a manner that most would overlook.

    As for MI6, @Magoose has stated that in the quest (as often in OTL) they tend to hit a lot of...SNAFUs. It would not surprise me that they're overlooking a lot of nonsense, either intentionally or incompetently.
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    And you want to tie one of our campus into that? Look, I'm sure that may make it look more exciting and all, but i'm not in this quest to get involved in spy thrills or trying to get our studio tied up to one of the Big Spying agencies for the country. I'm fine with us making movies, not trying to bring down the Chinese government.

    Now, if that happens because of our movies, then that's another thing all together.
    Orion Ultor said:
    I disagree here, based on the text of the vote itself, where it only states that we will act opposite of him. If it's like anything else, it'll be a miniturn for how involved in the project we want to be, which means that we can ask Clint for a fairly minor role that shouldn't eat up too much of our time and let's Bruce get a taste of whether or not he wants to be involved in more Westerns [eventually, I want us to act beside Jensen Ackles in a Western, but that isn't central to the argument].

    Because of that, I don't believe it will get in the way of Batman.
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    I disagree. We've yet to know if we will get to choose the role or if Clint will be the one to suggest it. More than likely he'll want us to act in a role big enough for us, and to show how Westerns can be good. We don't know it though, and I'm not willing to gamble on that and probably make it so that Batman gets sidetracked, specially since the movie is part of a contract with Columbia.
    Orion Ultor said:
    Considering that Empire Strikes Back is likely still in theaters and Smokey and the Bandit II, Xanadu and The Octagon all release this month too, it might be more appropriate to hold off another month for people's wallets to fill back up and where it won't have a whole lotta competition.
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    I say we try. Our Distribution has always found a way to succeed in one way or another (wit the exception of some duds here and there) and a Romanian film might just be a good palate cleanser for those who want something a bit different than Empire.
    Orion Ultor said:
    It's always been hit or miss here, so I've never really cared for this option. Might be better off choosing something else.
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    Come one man, that's the option that gave us Arnold!
    Orion Ultor said:
    Considering our earnings for ESB, the right move will probably be to pump those numbers up at least by $25M to avoid accusations of being stingy with our charity money.
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    I would think it's because said war is technically in an armistice, but perhaps we could add some more millions into it.
     
    overmind said:
    China giving up Hong Kong and/or macau is as likely as they allowing Taiwan to keep them. Unless Magoose outright says China will not take Hong Kong or Macau back, i'm going at this with the presuposition that they will be back into the fold in 1997 as agreed in OTL
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    Magoose explicitly said that they were willing to give them up. Not just in a WoG, but in the update itself. Here it is.
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    Apparently the fear of you is so great that there is serious debate within the party over letting the UK and Portugal keep Hong Kong and Macau because both cities are avid consumers of Lucasfilms and if they reunify with China then those films will spread and cause a revolution, thus continuing the colonial legacy is worth avoiding a Romania.
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    According to this, strengthening our presence in the cities would be what would convince them to give them up, since they wouldn't want to reintegrate them.


    Edit: Can't fucking sleep. Took NyQuil, it's not working very well. This sucks so fucking much.
     
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