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Do either that or Unbinding let us apply our Hugr Training Item?
Yeah, we also absolutely need Blackhand to be back for that one. Personally, I hope he's back for this as well, but it's not absolutely essential in the same way.
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Do either that or Unbinding let us apply our Hugr Training Item?
Yeah, we also absolutely need Blackhand to be back for that one. Personally, I hope he's back for this as well, but it's not absolutely essential in the same way.
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Stigmar I'd be down to teach bur I'd be worried he'd die from it. He's too much of a Normal Guy in our band of Monsters. But it might be the way to promote him to not being eternally last place of our huskarls.
Tryggr... I'm more hesitant on. He's a fun guy sure, but we met him and his twin just chilling happily acting as bandits and raiding regular people for loot. I don't get the opinion he's the most moral of people, even if he does respect us. Not sure I wanna empower him as of now.
I mean my ultimate goal would be one piece of Realized equipment for each child we have, something suiting their needs and inclinations, a sort of Sibling to keep them safe on their journey.
Might need to wait longer on that since they're still young.
Re: Getting involved;
I think it's important to get involved if we think the Jarl is actually a Bad Dude, because it's pretty clear Dorri will lose without our support. We are the metaphorical straw to break that back. So if we want Dorri to stick around we better be involved.
If we don't care and think the Jarl will be fine and that we can get over his insults to our Father at ours and Asva's weddings, it's fine to ignore it, but it also won't gain us any real favor with him. Neutrality is fine as long as we think he's an okay enough dude.
If we want to curry favor with the Jarl getting involves on his side seems the best way to get favor and earn rewards, even if we don't take over as headman
Do note that Jarls seem to have a lot of rivalry with other would-be Jarls. I doubt Dorri would care if we developed a Jarlsoul, but the Jarl almost certainly will take offense much like Folkmar(?) Did on our first raid.
...I kind of wanted to do a plan this turn, but you have cunningly already included all the stuff I wanted to do in your plan after we discussed it before.
CURSE YOU AND YOUR HIGHLY REASONABLE, ACCOMODATING NATURE
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A couple thoughts:
- Don't we get four crafting projects f we're putting two actions into it? Or are we only investing one personal action, and the third project is a freebie for some reason?
- With the spirits, my guess is that rather than going for loyalty per se, maybe we want to get them to sort of take the form of various animals so that our soul is more "alive"? But IDK, it's worth trying lots of things and seeing what sticks.
- We always send our Flygia to the hills, what if we sent it to the coastline? We live quite close to the sea and I bet lots of interesting flotsam and jetsam washes up.
- Might want to include a very rough overview of the trade stuff we're doing with the sea trip, just so that the first update of the trip does not begin with us already aboard ship when we might want to buy soapstones/tar first.
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We're not teaching them Odr cultivation, we're infusing their stats with our own Odr. All they get is the Infusion. If we stick to Hamr Infusion 3, that's a minor Orthstirr savings, +3 Endurance, and +1 shapeshifting slot. Which is all good, but not overpowering.
And a chicken survived it, I'm pretty sure they'll be fine.
Only on smithing do we get the doubling. The book is not smithing. Therefore, two smithing projects, plus the book.
We can try? I'm not sure how to phrase that one, I'll probably adjust the wording a little to aim for something specific.
Sure. Why not? I always forget that one because it's not on the list, but we've done it before, so it's probably fine.
Yeah, fair enough. I'll note it as a trade expedition in addition to the personal reasons.
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I deeply doubt that we can keep Dorri from being replaced if Corpsemaker actually wants him gone so the best thing to do is not get involved so we don't make an enemy of him or stab Dorri in the back.
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...What if we made the book cover out of metal?
I mean, I'd probably just see if we can help them take on the forms of some animals, maybe by bringing some examples into our soul and seeing what happens if we let the spirits touch say, a rabbit, and if they can then take on their forms?
....I'm not saying Halla should bring a small petting zoo for spirits into her soul, but I guess I basically am saying that lol
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It'll be leather so we can use the hide.
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…You do realize that we've also gone raiding with Abjorn right?
Edit: And that Steinarr also went raiding on several occasions same as almost every other adult Norseman we've met
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Then we can't use Moonless Night's pelt, which I think is in fact a good idea.
Hmmm. Lemme think about it. Like I said, I'm down for some rewording on that one.
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We'll have to find another material for the Odr Book if we do it that.
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Odr book with dragon-hide cover.
…..but everyone does that.
Maybe not literally everyone, but every respected Nordic warrior we've met so far has had some 'adventures' overseas. The only difference in this case is that Tryggr's target was us, but that doesn't make him a worse person than ourselves and the husband.
It's still cruel to raid, but finding a Norse warrior of respectable renown who hasn't done just that is a high bar!
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Raiding and Banditry feel different to me, and Halla even had a whole moral thing when she found out Horra was funding bandits about how its despicable. We haven't been hitting travelers along roads and massacring them for cargo, we've been raiding defensible positions and making 'fair' fights.
Tryggr saw no problem with being a bandit, and his only comments on it were 'I picked the wrong side' stuff.
The use of the word raid in my initial post was a bad one since Raiding is a thing, but Banditry and Raiding in setting seem to be viewed differently. And Tryggr was explicitly a Bandit when we met him.
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When people are raiding you they are bandits. When you go out raiding you are raiders.
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The in-universe moral distinction isn't about raiding travelers or defensible positions, it's about who you're targeting. If you're going after an enemy kingdom, then it's a raid (true for both us and Tryggr). If you're raiding your own neighbors, you're a worthless traitor. Which is why Halla was outraged at Horra's actions...he was basically committing treason.
IF has gone into this a few times during discussions...we actually asked about it right after the bandit camp thing with 'Wait, if being a bandit is nid, how were they so powerful?' and similar questions. And the answer is as simple as target selection.
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We haven't been attacking people on the road because it's hard to do that as someone who doesn't leave their kingdom often and uses a boat when they do.
We don't hit towns because it's fair we do it because that's where the loot is when you're conducting lightning raids. (which are also in no way fair)
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If you had, while raiding, encountered any other boats, there would have been an opportunity to see if you attacked it or not
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Yeah I sort of assumed that was the case, did I say something to contradict that?
My point was that it's hard to ambush people on the road or at sea unless you can camp on a trade route and we haven't really had an opportunity to do something like that. My apologies if that wasn't communicated correctly.
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