Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I made the initial page, though I didn't put in most of the tropes currently present.
Anyone is welcome to edit it, there's plenty more that could be put in I'm sure.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
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Anyone is welcome to edit it, there's plenty more that could be put in I'm sure.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Given the sort of time period, the fashion is probably for low heeled boots, similar to what we'd call riding boots today. Stiletto heels probably don't exist at all.
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
Mammoth or bust. I want Eike on a mammoth so freaking bad.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Unrelated to anything going on right now, and rather late overall, but...
In WHF, the Gold Order's members are of course known as Alchemists, so it's not super surprising that they settled on a name like that - though I don't think there's sylphs proper in the setting, it's not out of the question at all that there was a Paracelsus-equivalent at some point who wrote on them.
(Though, I do think if it had been up to me, I'd have named it Undine's Wrath. I know the device is propelled due to steam and thus air, but turning people's bodies briefly to liquid sounds more water-y to me.)
I found out recently that "Sylph" comes from Paracelsus' writings. Paracelsus contributed heavily to medicine, but he was also an alchemist, and wrote A Book on Nymphs, Sylphs, Pygmies, and Salamanders, and on the Other Spirits, in which he describes elemental beings associated with the four classical elements (and, of less relevance to this topic, how they fit into Christian beliefs). Sylphs correspond to air.
In WHF, the Gold Order's members are of course known as Alchemists, so it's not super surprising that they settled on a name like that - though I don't think there's sylphs proper in the setting, it's not out of the question at all that there was a Paracelsus-equivalent at some point who wrote on them.
(Though, I do think if it had been up to me, I'd have named it Undine's Wrath. I know the device is propelled due to steam and thus air, but turning people's bodies briefly to liquid sounds more water-y to me.)
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a reference (we've already met a gold wizard named after Marie Curie) but I expect if there is it's under one of his given names.
(Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim)
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Perhaps Undines are a name for water elementals, and the Golds don't want to be associated with actual elementalism.
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
- Location
- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
Yea know, thinking on it Laurelorn could make some SERIOUS money from tourism. But cultural issues between human and elfs might make that kinda difficult to pull off. Also makes me think that it's one of the few places where you can safely have a beach/lake episode. 
This planted a thought in my head and now I'm 🍳cooking like crazy.
This planted a thought in my head and now I'm 🍳cooking like crazy.
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Oh neat, he's named after that one guy from Full Metal Alchemist.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan Bring Running Shoes with Seviroscope; Ranald brand footwear.
[X] Plan Roadmap to Success + Ranald Liminal
[X] Plan Bring Running Shoes and Ranald
[X] Plan Roadmap to Success + Ranald Liminal
[X] Plan Bring Running Shoes and Ranald
Yea know, thinking on it Laurelorn could make some SERIOUS money from tourism. But cultural issues between human and elfs might make that kinda difficult to pull off. Also makes me think that it's one of the few places where you can safely have a beach/lake episode.
This planted a thought in my head and now I'm 🍳cooking like crazy.
They absolutely could and more importantly for their purposes is that they could invite powerful people not for mere money but goodwill and favors. Laurelorn is peaceful in a way no human city can be, it is a place of magic and...
I just thought of something. Way back in the thread, thousands and thousands of pages ago we had a conversation on whether the Emperor could command the Jades to extend his life, the conclusion was no in practice even if he had the power in theory, too many of the movers and shakers of the empire are distinctly uninterested in the prospect of an immortal emperor.
That is not to say the elves could hand out immortality either they would face if anything a worse backlash if they tried, but if some elderly nobles happen to come to Tor Lirael as tourists and come back 'feeling five years younger', well that just means they had a nice relaxing stay right? Not saying all or even most high nobles would go for this, but even a handful in the right place could be very valuable to the Eonir, enough maybe to set up that tourist industry as cover.
[X] Plan Bring Running Shoes with Seviroscope; Ranald brand footwear.
I think the Tsarevich Pavel society would have some words to say on that.
Sharp, pointy, wooden words.
Sharp, pointy, wooden words.
Those words being 'we have no mage sight and thus would not be able to tell the difference'. Hell I do not think most people with mage sight would be able to tell the difference. You would either have to be Mathilde level good or a user to the Lore of Life,
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
I think the multiple-century lifespan Elves might not know how to make people younger.
Over the entire span of their society some elf almost certainly wanted to keep their pet squirrel alive for a few hundred years or something. The entire planet is made up of creatures much shorter lived then them.
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- She/They
Heels were masculine fashion during this time period, right? Court shoes?
I think court ladies would also wear them if they wanted to seem taller, which was generally less of a concern for women than men in this period.
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
- Location
- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
My mind never really went in that direction. I think the main conflict would be between Elfs irritated that they are doing touristy services for humans and other Elfs going 'holy shit I love money'.
It would be a constant careful balance and whatever house runs this business would get a LOT of shit from the isolationist houses. It depends on whoever is willing to bite down on that hook and take the risk. Only way I can see someone going for it is if they could frame it to the other Elfs as 'Oh yeah we're just scamming them, silly humans haha'. Then investing a ton in getting a lot of non house alinged Elfs in the city decent jobs operating the industry.
Biggest issue will always be Elfs massive pride that would make pulling stuff off like this a bit more difficult. But I would not be surprised at all though if some crafty people in Lothern were drowning themselves in gold crowns by running touristy shit this instant.
Keep in mind my lefty brain is screaming at me while I type this. But if stuff like this draws humanity and their neighbors together in what I would hope to be a postive fashion over the years. Than it is a good thing. As long as the locals don't get screwed out of the profits like what happens a lot irl.
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Do elves even have pets here?
At least in this quest I remember Boney mentioning that elves have less empathy for non-elf things than humans do for non human things, i.e. they don't anthropomorphise as much, or whatever you call it for elves.
And every "animal" companion I am aware of is either a long lived person in itself (dragons) or tamed for a specific purpose with no mention of how much the elf in question cares beyond that.
As I understand it, elves will respect specific animals, but that respect has to be earned by the animal first.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
So with Red Riders having a good chance of winning, what will we name the future spell? Also if we get lucky and get something special for our initial riders would they be worth giving names to?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
If we get them sufficiently Nazgul-y, I want Dusk Riders.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'm given to understand that Elven steeds from Ellyrion must live a really long time, since apparently at a young age Ellyrian children are bonded to specially-selected foals who will be their mount later in life. But then, that's Ellyrion. Horses are its kingdom's hat so to speak and they're part of possibly the most magical place in the whole of the world. They're pretty much one of the exceptions in this regard. I wouldn't expect Laurelorn to have much interest in making really old pets, let alone humans.
Dusk/Twilight Rider directly references Mathilde's title, but...
I want to go all in on the punnery. Knight of Nights, or perhaps Bringer of Knight.
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- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I named the plan specifically after the Liminal Realm action, so this plan name is breaking my brain. I'm not complaining, just something I wanted to share.
I still want to do some action with Eike at our Temple to Ranald the Gambler. It's been so long since it came up on screen, and I think it would be an interesting setting. This is the best idea I have come up with so far:
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Nighty Knights.