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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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@Boney not just organization but help with research by identifying what the patron wants and what is available. While keeping forbidden knowledge out of people who are not cleared for it.
 
Gap said:
I agree with your last points, especially the travel points. But baby schollars are still schoolars and even more prone to take risk and travel. Also its not the "spiders are scary" which were my main point but that a diversity staff could enrich the library more while The We would be more efficient.
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A librarian is not a research assistant, they are not there to provide in depth feedback and they are not paid for it, any 'baby scholars' expecting that will be sorely disappointed no matter what race the librarian is. I think you are also underestimating just how cooperative scholarship is in this day and age, the idea of just bouncing thoughts off random strangers would be alien to most young or old.
 
Hmmm... since we never came up with an idea on how to progress Aetheric Vitae research post-choice to sacrifice that crystal... I have an idea.

@Boney would "[] Investigate the uses of Aetheric Vitae in the Divine Lore, Prayers, and Ceremonies of Ranald" be a viable path of research in the wake of our choice? (One I'm presuming would involve cooperating with a priest of Ranald, at least in one third of it.)

The idea in mind being just one that's a matter of taking any bit of the faith or Lore that requires a sacrifice of something, and replacing the material with AV, as themes of the act in question allow.

EDIT: Got an answer
 
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[X] The We

I like the We but never have a propper opportunity to engage with them, and this is the perfect opening. *AND* spider librarians is absolutely fucking sick and 100% the vibes.

Dragon is a strong contendor, but as much as I like Cython i don't think theyd be good for a library that other people want to visit.
 
You know what my favorite part of this update was? Just how casual Mathilde seemed about figuring out how to recreate an utterly priceless and irreplaceable magical superweapon. Like sure, it's all impossible and pretty neat, but man is it annoying that she can't get a look at the detonation moment. Also extremely inefficient, so hey, let's just sketch down an idea off the top of our head to make sure nothing goes to waste.
 
Boney said:
If you mean the entire field of library science, that will take a fair bit of time and effort, not least of which would be inventing the entire field of library science.
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Doesn't it already exist to some extent? This post has it that the Verenans have been doing library science and that their knowledge in the field is accessible enough for Mathilde to take pointers from it.
 
Valmond said:
I'm going to go ahead and assume there is either a more convenient method of creating orbs of sorcery, or the elves have a more convenient method of acquiring pure power of aethyr.
Maybe we could ask the Grey Lords about it at some point?
Once we have managed to impress them a bit more.

M: How would you make one of these? *shows orb of sorcery*
GL: You wish to learn how to make orbs of sorcery?
M: No, i want to learn how you make them, because my method is super inconvenient.
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4 years worth of passive production+a few days of work isn't all that much for someone as long-lived as Teclis, so the fact he handed over eight orbs of sorcery doesn't necessarily mean he has a better source than we do.

As far as I know the elves don't make regular use of Orbs of Sorcery - but my Warhammer Lore isn't exactly amazing so I could easily be wrong.
 
[X] Collegiate
[X] Cult of Verena
[X] Runescribes Guild
[X] Locals
[X] Halflings
[X] Orphans

Will figure out exact details and priorities later, but for now...
 
TreP said:
By the way, how exactly library would spread knowledge aside from not restricting access?
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By having "Be as Usable and Open As Possible" inscribed into the core values of the library and making our decisions about who is running the place based on that. We have been told Cython is going to be hiring staff that optimizes for "doesn't steal anything" and "kills anyone who tries". Which, sure, great. Those things should not be the primary hiring criteria. Verena will bring people religiously obligated to those same core values and open up access to the wider Verenan network, Runescribes are the very safe option that makes sure nothing breaks down over time.
 
DragonParadox said:
A librarian is not a research assistant, they are not there to provide in depth feedback and they are not paid for it, any 'baby scholars' expecting that will be sorely disappointed no matter what race the librarian is. I think you are also underestimating just how cooperative scholarship is in this day and age, the idea of just bouncing thoughts off random strangers would be alien to most young or old.
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That's literally what a research librarian is though. That's an actual job and career path that requires a master's degree in Library Science to pursue.
 
So I would like to learn the process of making power stones first before making orbs of sorcery. I am hoping that knowing how power stones are made will allow for more orbs or cheaper made orbs, preferably both.
 
Perdis said:
As others mentioned before, I am concerned that our little undying snake box might become Vital Strategic Resource of the Empire, and slip out of our control.
Here is why: Our key to making OoS is not a unique process but a single object. Mathilde isn't necessary for the utilization of the object. OoS are incredibly scarce for the Colleges, and presumably valuable to a proportionate degree.
Therefore, if some higher authority (thankfully few remain that could pose a problem), or a politicking group (perhaps other Lord/Lady Magisters or even the heads of colleges) of relative soft power decide to take it, they can build a case for doing so.
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Mathilde is way too important, well connected and powerful for anyone in the Colleges to do that.

Due to status in the Karaz Ankor, being besties with the Empress and the unique blend of connections across the Old World she's probably more politically proof than Dragomas.

Sinsystems said:
So on the subject of Scribes I think that regardless of what wins for the Librarians we should see to making the We the scribes, simply because their ability to increase in number as needed would be invaluable and unlike other races they can do the repetitive work without much issue mentally.
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The We could make excellent scribes.

As librarians the problem is that the We only really started positively interacting with a society a decade ago. Having We in a forward facing position is a big ask - better have locals or orphans or let Cython do the hiring (whilst Cython is not particularly social millennia of experience and a lot of Hysh must count for something).
 
NuclearConsensus said:
In DL at least, there are canonically no death-ray machines, on account of their creator being busy randomly setting a section of Drakenhof on fire.

People are getting nervous about the lack of time-travelling, pun-hating assassins?
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Jovi Sunscryer didn't invent the Luminark.

He's notable for moving to Sylvania and creating a very large Luminark, but there's nothing in Sigmar's Blood that suggests he invented them.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
That's literally what a research librarian is though. That's an actual job and career path that requires a master's degree in Library Science to pursue.
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Of which there are none on the planet, as Boney said above no library science. Sure there is a modern equivalent... that is like expecting some engineer from the University of Aldorf to know electrical engineering. What these librarians will do is simple:
  1. Sort Books
  2. Find books when asked
  3. Prevent books from being stolen
This is not the quest for Library Science in Warhammer.
 
When The We branch off they send their records along with the new branch in the Echo - so Library-We might well insist on copying much of the library before they hatch off a child-We to go out into the world.

And if that happened it would be awesome.

But I feel like greater integration into the normal structure of K8P would also be very valuable.

[x] Locals
[x] The We
 
Rafin said:
True. That was written up shortly before the vote opened and my expectations were off the mark. I still expect disappointment from the We/Cython fans though, but maybe to a lesser degree than when Cython lost the relationship vote.
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I'd rather you keep that sort of thing to yourself. It has a way of being a self-fulfilling prophecy, because loudly predicting that a group will be unpleasant if they lose tends to justifiably tick off said people.

Rafin said:
Maybe I misunderstood how they are used when they are used? My understanding was that their only practical use was as the main part of some major enchanted artefact. So my expectation was that they would always be in use in whatever the current Parenarch of that color considered the most worthy, with said artefact being shut down and the Orb removed whenever something they consider more important comes up.

What is their use policy instead?
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They're mainly used in battle altars for important battles, and kept safely in storage the rest of the time.

Rafin said:
Literacy and longevity? I wouldn't want them on their own, but if we were to go for multiculturalism as a goal in and of itself, then adding reasonable and available Elves would be part of that and the Faniour seem like the most reasonable and available. Though yes, for my purpose the very small handful of Toriour would also suffice.
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I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of giving the library an Elf quota to meet and subsequently having Mathilde scour the entire magical forest for the one Elf that wants to live and work under a mountain. If you're looking for people that are literate and long-lived, have you heard about these folks called 'Dwarves'? There might be one or two living nearby.

Nurgle said:
@Boney not just organization but help with research by identifying what the patron wants and what is available. While keeping forbidden knowledge out of people who are not cleared for it.
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This is something that everyone but Verenans, Runescribes, and Collegiate would need training to be capable of.

Andres said:
Doesn't it already exist to some extent? This post has it that the Verenans have been doing library science and that their knowledge in the field is accessible enough for Mathilde to take pointers from it.
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The post in question was not intended to be taken as a statement about the current tech level of the Verenans, but rather a way of trying to communicate that there isn't one single ageless standard of proficiency at librarianing that the We could be said to meet or not meet.

Nurgle said:
So I would like to learn the process of making power stones first before making orbs of sorcery. I am hoping that knowing how power stones are made will allow for more orbs or cheaper made orbs, preferably both.
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It won't. All of the Ulgu from the Vitae was absorbed by the stone. There's nothing Mathilde can learn to increase the amount of absorbed magic above 100%.
 
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