I think it's questionable how suspicious it would look. It would be very hard for anyone but Regimand to put together exactly how much time Mathilde spent on this. A very plausible narrative is that Mathilde already had most of the parts of the puzzle from stuff she picked up back when she was a spymaster. So actually solving the issue wasn't a big additional imposition for her in comparison to what she'd already agreed on.
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I think it's questionable how suspicious it would look. It would be very hard for anyone but Regimand to put together exactly how much time Mathilde spent on this. A very plausible narrative is that Mathilde already had most of the parts of the puzzle from stuff she picked up back when she was a spymaster. So actually solving the issue wasn't a big additional imposition for her in comparison to what she'd already agreed on.
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That's an inevitability. I had absolutely no hopes of him not being mad at us. He seems like a petty guy and we already stole Horstmann from him, and it was in our best interests to sabotage his credit anyway. I don't think we could have avoided him getting mad at us unless we decided to switch track and support him instead, which I don't think anyone in this thread was willing to do anyway.
Well, if you're worried about Alberich knowing too much about Heidi... there is another issue involved here, y'know?
Look at it this way; if we capture him, then we can interrogate him and find out whether or not he knows the Empress is a fake Haupt-Anderssen and whether he's set up any contingencies (or just left intel caches) implicating her.
That is; the threat of Heidi's reveal might not be ended with just Alberich's death. That's why interrogating him might be useful. Or at least -- if successful, anyway -- it might reveal to us for sure "Yeah, he doesn't know"/"Yeah, he didn't leave any deadrops or anything."
Choosing to kill him means deciding "Yeah there's no further threat here, if he's dead, threat over."
Because keep in mind that if we didn't stop things with this murder, then we would have been still stuck spending AP on stopping him before the next murder anyway.
That is; some of the AP being spent is "Event AP" rather than "Main-turn AP" anyway. Interrogating Alberich might take time from "event time" rather than "turn time" so you do not necessarily have to worry about AP that much. (Though, it's also kind of uncaring to go "Meh we don't even live in the Empire most of the time anyway, doesn't matter, and I don't want to take the risk of needing to use more AP for this." Like... it is our job and duty to fight chaos and evil for the Empire. Also, people we care about live in the Empire too.)
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[X] Kill: Branulhune
I think that is almost certainly the case though. Without a primary source (and even then I don't think the risk was ever huge due to his lacking credibility) the whole thing would just come across as a postmortem spite bomb from a cultist trying to stir up trouble.
I also think it's quite possible the entire thing in regards to Heidi has, if not completely escaped his notice, probably not been something he's spent much time thinking about and considering the implications of. In which case interrogating him about it might actually do more harm then good, if he gets the chance to squeal about the fact we were interested in that to his slaaneshi buddies after he dies or something. So even assuming none of the other additional complications attempting to capture him might incur arise. I'm still not a huge fan.
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Yeah I'm not suggesting we should support the guy, that would be an awful idea on multiple levels. Still, its probably good to keep in mind that Alric might actively try to oppose us in the future.
Here is the thing, we have no way to plug those holes really. He was in the realm of chaos. Numberless daemons know what he knows, every conjuror in the Empire might technically find out... but the information would be from a daemon. Those could leave dead drops in his handwriting just as easily, they could instruct every too bit conjuror in whatever the hell Albericht knew. The best we can do is kill the primary source before they are interrogated and trust in Ranald and Heidi to handle the rest. We did not take the imperial agent job and we certainly cannot do it on the side of our already insanely busy schedule.
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[X] Kill: Dragonflask
[X] Kill: Branulhune
I like using the Dragonflask first because it adds an extra element of deception to the plan. If this asshole survives, his first thought is likely to be 'I'm facing a Bright Wizard.'
Instead he'll be up against a Grey Wizard, and he'll be facing her in the dark with ruined night vision. I'm fully behind stacking the deck against a powerful Chaos cultist as heavily as we can.
[X] Kill: Branulhune
I like using the Dragonflask first because it adds an extra element of deception to the plan. If this asshole survives, his first thought is likely to be 'I'm facing a Bright Wizard.'
Instead he'll be up against a Grey Wizard, and he'll be facing her in the dark with ruined night vision. I'm fully behind stacking the deck against a powerful Chaos cultist as heavily as we can.
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Or maybe the Empress who is publicly known to be a part of the family currently being murdered decided to ask her Grey Wizard friend to stop her extended family being murdered.
The empress is not publicly part of the family being murdered, she is lying about being part of the same family as mister cultist. I think you got them mixed up.
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Heidi is pretending to be a Haupt-Andersen, it's another family that's being murdered now.(Ulfathingers? The name didn't stick great)
Though she might be worried about the chaos cultists with the same name as her anyway.
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If a Grey Magister does something very flashy and public I'm going to go ahead and assume that they're creating a distraction.
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I thought Mathilde was supposed to be the secret agent, not the villain:
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Heidi isn't a part of the family being murdered. Suposedly she is the last surviving member of the Haupt-Andersson's though we now know Alberich is also alive (also obviously she isn't really part of that family). The family being murdered are the Unfähiger's the connection to the Haupt-Anderssons is that the timing and method reflects the deaths of the Haupt-Anderssons.
E: Ninja'd twice, I must be getting slow in my old age
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Unfahiger with some weird two dot thing somewhere in there. I don't do German. They call themselves the Krieglitz now.
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We are technically planning to cut the whole vehicle in half and we are standing in the middle of a street. I think that is far enough that we would at least a bonus to any musk roll if we have to take it at all.
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We want to hide Heidi's true story, meaning that too much info might actually be bad. And "he was dangerous and we do not know how and whether Ritual would be completed" is a perfect excuse.
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Let's be nice to Alric and credit him for protecting and delaying the ritual, it's better to make friends and avoid enemies, besides Alric earned it bodyguard ING the victims and slowing Alberich down.