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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Valmond said:
teach him about intrigue, and how to see the world.
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Maybe, a bit. Not sure how much of our intrigue does not depend on our magic. I remember us creating a spy network, but I forgot how we did it. :cry:

Valmond said:
teach him about intrigue, and how to see the world.

2) She's the awesome crazy aunt who talks to giant spider swarms and dragons and runs around murderizing WAAAGHs when not teaching the young impressionable kid about how to not piss of dawi.
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Sounds like a great thing for two or several write-ins between the turns, which we could have doing anything (besides going to Lustria I guess).

Valmond said:
That said, so far there has been nothing about Mathilde that would make her a bad parent, apart from workaholism. And Mathilde is not that young, she was a young adult when the quest started, over a decade ago, if not for the whole wizard thing, she could have kids nearing adulthood by now.
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I agree. At the same time, I don't know what would make her a good/exceptional parent. What of our mindset or life-rules would we like to impart? That's a very interesting thing which I'm struggling to understand, for now. I am pretty sure there is something there and I'd like to understand it. What made Mathilda great (except powers of Ulgu).
 
I do not understand all this hate against Heidi. What has she done to make her detestable to some members of this thread? Manage a city well enough that the people of that city like her? Impersonate a vampire without doing the appropriate horrible despicable acts involved in actually being a vampire? Successfully get into a political marriage with the Emperor? Have a child? Love that child like a mother and want that child to be an Emperor?
Darth. said:
Going by how close this vote seems to be, we're going to have a lot of salty people no matter what wins.

Edit: @BoneyM if one option wins by like 1 or 2 more than the other, will there be another vote with only one choice allowed between those two/three options?
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This will have a 100% of generating more unhappiness in the thread.
 
A_Somebody said:
Hahaha no. To give context Aborash, some dude Neferata forced vampirism on, and thus wasn't as acclimated to it, kinda became famous for 1v1ing an Emperor Dragon and drinking its blood.
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It's true that Aborash hasn't been a vampire for as long, but the difference is only a few years out of the thousands of years the two have been alive. He was also made a vampire through the elixir and not a bite, so he is also a part of the first generation. Further, he was the captain of her guard before becoming a vampire, and in undeath he was the one who became famous as a legendary warrior and founder of a bloodline of legendary warriors, while Neferata sat back and pulled strings.

She isn't one to be trifled with in combat, but she by no means is as dangerous as Aborash.
 
Valmond said:
1) We would not be taking Mandred to adventures, where'd that even come up from? We'll be dealing with EC problems so they'll like Mandred more and vote for him to be the emps when his dad kicks it. That said, we can still teach him about necromancers and vampires and how to counter their plots, teach him about intrigue, and how to see the world.
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Not in the immediate future, no, but I do believe once he's grown older that taking him on adventures is on the table. What better way to earn the love, trust, and respect of the Empire and its people than to go out there and do it? It'll be educational for him too to have experiences of the world outside the palace walls, plus live combat experience too.
 
DragonParadox said:
Agreed. I find the black swan events of those two more palatable though.
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If you agree why are you literally arguing it as your mainstay?

Also Thorgrim could ask us to kill Belegar. That makes as much sense as your "hurr durr Leopold will ask us to kill an Elector".

No he won't. Even if he wanted an Elector dead, he'd ask the Imperial Spymaster, not us.
 
Shard said:
I do not understand all this hate against Heidi. What has she done to make her detestable to some members of this thread? Manage a city well enough that the people of that city like her? Impersonate a vampire without doing the appropriate horrible despicable acts involved in actually being a vampire? Successfully get into a political marriage with the Emperor? Have a child? Love that child like a mother and want that child to be an Emperor?

This will have a 100% of generating more unhappiness in the thread.
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I don't hate Heidi as a character. She's actually well-written and fascinating, and from my POV is one of the least bad options to be the chief web-spinner in the Imperial Court. Heck, she's funny and charming, even.

I just don't want Mathilde to work for a rapist liar who gets off on exploiting everyone around her primarily for her own ends.
 
A_Somebody said:
Hahaha no. To give context Aborash, some dude Neferata forced vampirism on, and thus wasn't as acclimated to it, kinda became famous for 1v1ing an Emperor Dragon and drinking its blood.
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A) Abhorash was plenty strong as a Vampire, even if he didn't really choose to drink the Elixir.

B) There is no indication on how strong the dragon Abhorash fought was other than "it was a dragon". Certainly nothing stating it was an Emperor Dragon.
 
Darth. said:
If you agree why are you literally arguing it as your mainstay?

Also Thorgrim could ask us to kill Belegar. That makes as much sense as your "hurr durr Leopold will ask us to kill an Elector".

No he won't. Even if he wanted an Elector dead, he'd ask the Imperial Spymaster, not us.
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I'm not, someone told me to give an example of a tipping point, you know the part of a wider pattern that would push us over the edge.

Also if we have gotten to the point where you interpret my arguments with the words hurr durr it is probably just best for both of us to stop talking on this matter.
 
Taxpayer said:
I just don't want Mathilde to work for a rapist liar who gets off on exploiting everyone around her primarily for her own ends.
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Dude, lying about your name and profile is not rape. Else one-night stands on tinder would be rape. She's also no more a liar than us, just that she's been at this longer. As for exploiting for her own ends, Ranald asked her to do this, and she went along with it.
 
fan_of_D_Andreev said:
Yep, me too.

Btw I wonder how powerful Neferata is. And if she could be scared away from there and somewhere else. Or even killed. With a help of a friendly dragon or two and a team of wizards like Melkoth brain-storming the problem. Terrorizing vampires could be fun. And would work for the Empire by weakening or removing the Lahmian infiltration for decades or forever.
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There's only a few people I think are riskier to take a swing at than Neferata. Their names are Malekith, Morathi, Nagash, and Settra.
 
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xpentakill said:
If we fight her and fail somehow, is there a chance we get turned into a vampire?
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As far as I am aware, Heidi is not actually a vampire. Although she seems to like having the 'aura' of being a vampire, possibly because it scares away people.
Taxpayer said:
I don't hate Heidi as a character. She's actually well-written and fascinating, and from my POV is one of the least bad options to be the chief web-spinner in the Imperial Court. Heck, she's funny and charming, even.

I just don't want Mathilde to work for a rapist liar who gets off on exploiting everyone around her primarily for her own ends.
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To be honest I don't even know how to process this.
 
While I'll hold my tongue if it wins, The loremaster job is the only one that will actively upset me if it wins...

QM: Here is a buffet of the weird and odd world of Warhammer, pick what you want!

Players: more of the same please, I feel safe and comfortable with that.


at the very lest Waystone will make us travel a lot....
 
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Spymaster of Wissenland
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Research Sabbatical
 
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