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Storm of Chaos was never meant to be End Times though. It was always going to end with status quo, the problems arose when GW's planned storyline and the player participation clashed, and GW overrode the latter, which people were very annoyed about. End Times meanwhile was GW's decision to kill the setting very dead because it wasn't profitable as a war game anymore. They didn't forget about Chaos having the opportunity to lose, they just deliberately wrote so they didn't because the creation of AoS was the entire point.
And then Total War: Warhammer become a smash hit and introduce a lot of people to WF just when they were winding down production of the modals.

and now they are trying desperately to bring it back before Total War 3 hits shelves so they can not completely miss the wave.
 
And then Total War: Warhammer become a smash hit and introduce a lot of people to WF just when they were winding down production of the modals.

and now they are trying desperately to bring it back before Total War 3 hits shelves so they can not completely miss the wave.
Fantasy had been dead for more than a year before Total War released. The upcoming release of The Old World is probably partly to cash in on all the new people, and partly to try and attract the people who left the hobby when Fantasy died. I doubt it'll be a serious attempt to revive the setting though. I believe it'll be more akin to the Horus Heresy Forgeworld stuff, and won't contradict the End Times. Could make for an interesting angle if they push into that fully, and let you do stuff like make Teclis duel Caledor or have Aenarion cross swords with Abhorash.
 
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that's what I said.

the factories don't just stop making the modals on the day. (contacts are a thing)

models were still being made for a bit after.

just not long enough for them to cash in on Total war.
Games Workshop make their own models. Indeed, they consider making and selling models their primary business. And "a year plus however long corporate have been planning this" is more than enough time to halt production. Especially as the models weren't selling well.

:rofl:
 
Games Workshop make their own models. Indeed, they consider making and selling models their primary business. And "a year plus however long corporate have been planning this" is more than enough time to halt production. Especially as the models weren't selling well.
from the financial statements released in 2016.
'The distribution /packaging/ FW Resin/ and GW Plastic casting facility in China is located in Shanghai.'

the main production of paints also seen to be outsourced to Poland. (as well as the printing of the White Dwarf magazine

those require contracts.
 
@BoneyM random question, but we're any empire officials directly alerted to Vlag's return, or did the messengers we sent only tell the dwarves and Kislev? I'm sure word would get to them eventually, of course, but i'm mostly curious on how long, exactly, it would take, and whether they learn it through the grapevine or an official report.
 
@BoneyM random question, but we're any empire officials directly alerted to Vlag's return, or did the messengers we sent only tell the dwarves and Kislev? I'm sure word would get to them eventually, of course, but i'm mostly curious on how long, exactly, it would take, and whether they learn it through the grapevine or an official report.
They massagers aren't even in Kislev yet.
 
Honestly, I just feel like he gets overhyped by the fandom? Like, I've been in conversations where people seem to think Abhorash is the greatest warrior that ever lived, and it's like, he hasn't done much? Hasn't actually fought against any character that mattered?

Like, he killed a dragon, and that's impressive, but he's not the only person to ever kill a dragon, you know?
 
from the financial statements released in 2016.
'The distribution /packaging/ FW Resin/ and GW Plastic casting facility in China is located in Shanghai.'

the main production of paints also seen to be outsourced to Poland. (as well as the printing of the White Dwarf magazine

those require contracts.
A) None of that means they don't own those things.
B) No they require orders (ie make ten thousand High Elf Spearmen)
C) That still doesn't mean the production of Fantasy models continued after the release of AoS seeing as it'd been planned for at least a year before hand, and the setting had been dead for a further year.

Honestly, I just feel like he gets overhyped by the fandom? Like, I've been in conversations where people seem to think Abhorash is the greatest warrior that ever lived, and it's like, he hasn't done much? Hasn't actually fought against any character that mattered?

Like, he killed a dragon, and that's impressive, but he's not the only person to ever kill a dragon, you know?
Abhorash is an interesting one. The fandom does tend to play him up, because he appears in lore, often touted as the greatest warrior who ever lived. He especially gets kudos for the founding of the Blood Knights, with the general assumption being that he must be a better warrior than all of them. His only actual combat outside of the dragon that I recall is a duel against Gilles le Breton. Which he lost. Which is doubly bad because Gilles wasn't even the best fighter among the Companions, if memory serves.
 
[x] Scouting near the convoy
[x] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
[x] Thane Borek Forkbeard
[x] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[x] Head Ranger Snorri Farstrider
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
 
Abhorash is an interesting one. The fandom does tend to play him up, because he appears in lore, often touted as the greatest warrior who ever lived. He especially gets kudos for the founding of the Blood Knights, with the general assumption being that he must be a better warrior than all of them. His only actual combat outside of the dragon that I recall is a duel against Gilles le Breton. Which he lost. Which is doubly bad because Gilles wasn't even the best fighter among the Companions, if memory serves.
He may not be the greatest warrior in the world but he has clearly hired the greatest marketing consultant.
 
[x] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[x] Thane Borek Forkbeard
[x] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
 
[x] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[x] Thane Borek Forkbeard
[x] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
We are going to be taking 5 actions this turn, I think.

Not that you have to vote for 5 options if you don't want to, just figured I'd mention it in case you weren't aware.
 
Changing vote. I wanna see what the skaven are up to, and if they are a threat

[x] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
[x] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[x] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
[x] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[x] Head Ranger Snorri Farstrider
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get why people seem to find talking to Snorri more important than talking to Ruprecht.

I mean, we already pretty much know he'll stand on our side no?
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get why people seem to find talking to Snorri more important than talking to Ruprecht.

I mean, we already pretty much know he'll stand on our side no?
I cannot speak for everyone else, but in my case is because I want to talk with Worst Slayer and Snorri Nosebitter before they cross the Despair Event Horizon... I am not thinking about how useful will it be talking with someone, I have chosen the guys I find more interesting.
 
I like Warhammer (either Fantasy or 40k) when it's dark but it's better when it's self-aware about how over the top it is - which is why Orks are my favorite 40k faction and Skaven are my favorite Fantasy faction.

Although I'm also partial to Fantasy scenarios that have the same tone as a Blackadder sketch.
 
I always wondered how it be if we picked minor Noble. Maybe it would shift Mathilde from being subtly smug to outrageously smug. And I'd be here for it.

But the biggest change is that Mathilde would have had family to go back to. And that would have shifted her choices in life by a lot.
 
One reason I want to go heavy on the people and socials is that... We have a lot of people to watch over, a lot of targets to cover and targets to meet.

For instance, all the Wizards we should be looking over and assessing and seeing how they're doing. Who are, y'know, our actual responsibility as the person-in-charge-of-wizards here.

But we can't, because we also have to touch bases with the leaders of the expedition too.

To add on top of that "as much loot and shinies as you can get from sidequests and personal jaunts, to Uzkulak and the Combes" means that we have even less time to do our job as the overseer and wrangler of wizards.

I want to get the people out of the way as effectively and usefully as possible, so we can start watching our Wizards like a hawk. Some of whom meet daemons in battle and were shaken by it. And so whom met daemons in battle... and were not. Is that good or bad? Probably good of course. But it couldn't hurt to check, right?

We talked about watching from both the light and the shadow with Egrimm, I'd like to actually do that. And we're already splitting our time between watching and forming rapports with the leaders, with the Chaos Chalice we'll have to get, and the possibility that we'll have to start spending an AP a week on using Rite of Way, too.

So, that's one reason I want to go heavy on the people. To start making room in our to-do list. Rather than adding yet more to it.
 
Its cheeky

[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger


but im going to try and maximize the chance of my boy getting to the list by dropping everyone else down.
 
Something occurs to me, if we are going to Chaos Vegas, could we sell the information we get from the Combes? we know the language and might get something the chaos dwarfs don't know about.
 
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