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If her TWWH representation were based primarily on the Expedition and retaking of K8P, I think Mathilde's hero gimmick would be moving into enemy strongholds solo and wreaking havoc among the defending forces and/or decapitating enemy leadership, just before you fight the assault battle.
Wouldn't those just be standard hero actions? Assassinate, Assault Units and Assault Garrison?
 
Eh, skaven are subjects to the same incentives as everyone else. If you aren't just taking instead of trading, it is because the other party is strong enough to make trading the more rewarding option. If they aren't, then why not just take?
Does the rule of three imply all Skaven trades need to be done with the presence of a 'guaranteeing' third party? To make sure it's not two is war, with as you say the stronger party taking everything?
Wouldn't those just be standard hero actions? Assassinate, Assault Units and Assault Garrison?
Perhaps- I edited in the thought she could start on the battle map inside the fortress.
 
Does the rule of three imply all Skaven trades need to be done with the presence of a 'guaranteeing' third party? To make sure it's not two is war, with as you say the stronger party taking everything?
I think it's more likely that trade is done in fives than threes. Two and two, and then the fifth is being bribed by both to be there to deter any violence (and as they'd only get a third of the spoils in a fight, are motivated to follow through with that). With three, you might end up in a bidding war that then possibly turns into a physical one; this can't happen with five because the fifth cannot outbid either of the twos.
 
Vanguard deployment and Stalk?
TBH at this point my out of date knowledge of TWWH is exposed, I've not played since the first game. It was just a thought, as this was to me her most striking battlefield impact, repeated and reprised several times.If it's all standard stuff, perhaps she could just be made very good at them. Shrug.
I think it's more likely that trade is done in fives than threes. Two and two, and then the fifth is being bribed by both to be there to deter any violence (and as they'd only get a third of the spoils in a fight, are motivated to follow through with that). With three, you might end up in a bidding war that then possibly turns into a physical one; this can't happen with five because the fifth cannot outbid either of the twos.
Kind of, but I don't understand what role the second party on each would side have. Have they also got something they want to trade? With both the other parties? Seems complex to arrange.
 
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Kind of, but I don't understand what role the second party on each would side have. Have they also got something they want to trade? With both the other parties? Seems complex to arrange.
For trade between two Clans, the respective Warlords might send two Chieftains each (and their retinues) to negotiate, and then bribe a Chieftain from a third Clan to oversee things.
 
I feel that in TWW (if DL was Canon) Mathilde's "gimmick" (other than fact that she is Empire Wizard in Dwarfs Faction) would be about boosting Mercenary/Allied Units recruited by Belegar's faction
God, I'm just imagining a legendary lord that could use Smoke and Mirrors to instantly teleport to a targeted unit and had the melee chops to just delete them in that confrontation and also had a spell to turn invisible and get out without being dogpiled. Every enemy caster would just die. I do love my assassin build heroes to just delete enemy champions and monsters.
 
Generally, my idea of DL!Belegar as TWW Faction Leader is from the moment, where they "just finished" retaking K8P and want to ensure that "it stays that way" by defending it from Warboss Birdmuncha and "remnants from extinct Clan Mors" (who will attempt to attack K8P every 5 Turns, and will only stop after they're wiped out in Quest Battle)

Also, I would name Belegar's faction "Silver Peaks's Sentinels" to reflect changed situation, in comparison to "canon" TWW
 
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The Undumgi could even be their own vassal faction that Belegar starts with in game, but I don't think the map was particularly granular when it came to eight peaks, so I dunno how well that would work.
 
I have a silly and not-so-important question: Given that the Library of Mournings didn't provide us with any new Eonir Romance or Overly Vulgar Romance books, is it a safe assumption that those would be the domain of the Eonir Cult of Atharti?
 
I have a silly and not-so-important question: Given that the Library of Mournings didn't provide us with any new Eonir Romance or Overly Vulgar Romance books, is it a safe assumption that those would be the domain of the Eonir Cult of Atharti?
Actually this question is clearly of the utmost importance, and I vote we put all other social actions on hold to find out. :V
 
I was unironically sad that our romance sections didn't grow from the elf books purchase.

I also think it would be fucking hysterical if during the pan action we just suddenly had a roll boosted by those romance books to make a suave one liner.
 
I was unironically sad that our romance sections didn't grow from the elf books purchase.

I also think it would be fucking hysterical if during the pan action we just suddenly had a roll boosted by those romance books to make a suave one liner.
I mean, there *has* to be an elf romance book featuring an elf romancing a dryad in a treehouse of some kind. Practically a training guide for the upcoming date!
 
I mean, there *has* to be an elf romance book featuring an elf romancing a dryad in a treehouse of some kind.
The tales told in the streets of Tor Lithanel which piqued Mathilde's interest speak to those desires and fantasies, so I'd guess the genre has also been written down?
If Cadaeth is an Elf then she will have some sort of residence here, and if she is a Dryad she will have a tree that she resides within, and if the lurid tales of Tor Lithanel are correct and she is a little of each, then she will... have a dungeon within which she will lure innocent yet consenting young Elves into for all sorts of wondrous torments. Perhaps there's only so much accurate insight that can be distilled from those tales.
 
I have a silly and not-so-important question: Given that the Library of Mournings didn't provide us with any new Eonir Romance or Overly Vulgar Romance books, is it a safe assumption that those would be the domain of the Eonir Cult of Atharti?

Not exclusively, private enterprise does have a significant share of the market. It's just not the sort of thing the Library of Mournings has deigned to catalogue.
 
[X] Orb Reveal
[X] Silk
[X] Karak Vlag books
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic

Also, im curious, do you guys think -[]Study the Ulgu books in your library- would be a worthwhile action?
Because most of the studying we have done seems to have been new and novel phenomena, would it be worthwhile to just hit the books?
 
Looks over at the Eonir writings on sports and art which are currently our Stacks

Cowards.
To be fair to the staff of the Library of Mournings, Mathilde doesn't keep them in the Kron-Azril-Ungol either. She keeps the romance books on her own bookshelves in her own home. I'm sure many of the librarians do something similar.

Home in Karak Eight Peaks
Bookshelf:
Romance +11 - Extensive Imperial / Bretonnian / Dwarven / Extensive Eonir / Extensive Druchii / Extensive and Obscure Skaven
Overly Vulgar Romance +4 - Druchii / Eonir / Extensive Skaven
 
[X] Orb Reveal
[X] Silk
[X] Karak Vlag books
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic

Also, im curious, do you guys think -[]Study the Ulgu books in your library- would be a worthwhile action?
Because most of the studying we have done seems to have been new and novel phenomena, would it be worthwhile to just hit the books?
Going back to basics is a very real source of inspiration - not a bad idea, particularly for only 1 AP, if there's an obvious void to fill somewhere... That said, it may be something that Mathilde is already doing without our intervention.
 
Also, im curious, do you guys think -[]Study the Ulgu books in your library- would be a worthwhile action?
Probably not. Mechanically we already get the bonus from those books on relevant rolls. Narratively, Mathilde is at a point in her ubderstanding of Ulgu where delving deeper requires doing or inventing magic, she already knows most of what can be taught (outside of the mechanics of specific battlemagic spells).
 
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Not exclusively, private enterprise does have a significant share of the market. It's just not the sort of thing the Library of Mournings has deigned to catalogue.
This seems to imply that there are still books we can buy from Laurelorn, even if it's not from the Library of Mournings in specific.

I, for one, am in favor of spending Mathilde's hard earned money on the important and necessary to her job corpus of wood elf smut. What else are we supposed to use to trade with the duchii for their romance novels? The offer was knowledge for knowledge, people, we need to get on this!
 
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