[X] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals
-[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
-[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the Lodge and the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
-[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.
-[X] Mention how our daughter warned us Kislev is kind of a powder keg right now due to the whole shadow war that's going on right now.
 
[X] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals

They are our closest allies. They deserve to know about the lodge to not get blindsided or something.
 
Hmmm, I wonder if we should bring up Black Ark at next meet, since I doubt we are getting rid of it anytime soon, and if we can't get more navy funding due to danger it poses as a very close enemy port.
 
@torroar except for that one mention during Lovely Lauralorn. Did we tell the Elves about that Black Arc or did Freddie forget about it entirely?
 
next turn we should fire the Bianca's Black Scorners and hire some new Mercenaries
Or we could hire and fire no mercenaries until the Elector's Meet. I don't want to take up more RL time that hiring mercs we won't be guaranteed to use will bring. I also want to save as much cash as we can for when our third research action becomes unlocked. That'll cut into our resources.

Can we even do both? I thought we could only fire, or hire, but not both.
 
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still we should fire the Bianca's Black Scorners as we are paying to much for only 500 men
First off, they are only down to 500 because of the battles they fought for us, before that they were at 1000 just like Leopold's Leopard Company. Second, that still gives them more men then many of the mercenary groups we've hired. Third, they are all skilled pikemen, and even reduced to 500, that's still very noticeable amount when added to all the other pikemen we've hired(and pikemen are at their best the more of them you've got).
 
[] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals

They are our closest allies. They deserve to know about the lodge to not get blindsided or something.

I understand that. That said, Frederick apparently hasn't mentioned the Lodge after the Elector's Meet nor during any of the Trident Meetings since he found out more about them from Hagrid. He would have had ample opportunity to mention it in private with them then, but didn't. I think there's probably an IC reason for that. One reason is the way Magnus addressed the Lodge in private before. I'm sure there's a reason for that. But I do wonder if there's further reason for Frederick not bringing up what he found out (after the Meet) with Stephen and Ortrud. I asked @torroar for clarification.

If it's simply a matter of it falling through the cracks then perhaps it is something that should be shared, so long as it stays mostly quiet. I suspect the reason to keep things quiet is to avoid rampant paranoia against all halflings and to keep the Lodge from escalating. I might vote to include the Lodge under that circumstance.
 
I understand that. That said, Frederick apparently hasn't mentioned the Lodge after the Elector's Meet nor during any of the Trident Meetings since he found out more about them from Hagrid. He would have had ample opportunity to mention it in private with them then, but didn't. I think there's probably an IC reason for that. One reason is the way Magnus addressed the Lodge in private before. I'm sure there's a reason for that. But I do wonder if there's further reason for Frederick not bringing up what he found out (after the Meet) with Stephen and Ortrud. I asked @torroar for clarification.

If it's simply a matter of it falling through the cracks then perhaps it is something that should be shared, so long as it stays mostly quiet. I suspect the reason to keep things quiet is to avoid rampant paranoia against all halflings and to keep the Lodge from escalating. I might vote to include the Lodge under that circumstance.
We should probably tell the Electors and family at least. So that an eye can be kept on it without being forgotten across generations, and as a last resort to blow the whistle.
[X] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals
 
We should probably tell the Electors and family at least. So that an eye can be kept on it without being forgotten across generations, and as a last resort to blow the whistle.
[] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals

I'm still wary of the reason why Frederick hasn't said anything of it yet (right after the Meet is perfectly clear, that was a private meeting, but does that reason apply to what he discovered in the years afterward) when he's had plenty of opportunity to during Trident Meetings before. So, waiting for word on that.

But I don't like the Kislev part of the 'threats and trade deals' vote. It's not relevant to their concerns since they have no intention of ever getting involved with Kislev's internal affairs anyway.

So, even if it turns out there isn't a IC reason to continue to keep quiet on the Lodge, at least to Ortrud and Stephen, I don't think I'm voting for 'Threats and Trade Deals' because of the Kislev bit. It also doesn't seem fair to change my plan all of a sudden, so I might just make a slightly different plan depending on the response from torroar.
 
We are going to have a disgusting amount of money to play with next turn. With the latest infusion of funds thanks to Sabine's actions against the guilds, we should have 43,308 gold crowns to play with next turn when you combine our net income and reserves.

Is that the most money we've had during this quest's lifespan? Because I think it is.
 
Changing vote.

[X] Plan: Albion and trade, no Lodge or Kislev
-[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
-[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
-[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.

Lets just focus on immediate stuff, seems premature to talk about Lodge since we don't have full explanation of them yet IC.
Adhoc vote count started by Travler66 on Sep 13, 2020 at 12:43 PM, finished with 133 posts and 53 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Albion and trade, no Lodge or Kislev
    -[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
    -[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
    -[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.
    [X] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals
    -[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
    -[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the Lodge and the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
    -[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.
    -[X] Mention how our daughter warned us Kislev is kind of a powder keg right now due to the whole shadow war that's going on right now.
    [X] End of Trident Meeting, End of Turn 35, End of Year 2339, Move On To Turn 36.
    [X] Plan: Threats and Trade Deals
    -[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
    -[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the Lodge and the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
    -[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.
    [X] Plan: Swampy and Icy Shores
    -[X] Bring up the Black Ark and Fimir confirmation from the Albion expedition.
    -[X] Norsca's been oddly quiet lately. Ask if they have any idea what's going on in there.
    -[X] The Starbrook Package and its Impact on the Northern Trident. Offer what intelligence that can be offered on the Lodge and the factions in Marienburg that were targeting the Trident.
    -[X] Discuss having a different trade deal planned out and ready for the next Elector's Meet. Not just for the Northern Trident, but one that the other provinces can enthusiastically get behind, or at least potentially be persuaded towards.
    -[X] Mention how our daughter warned us Kislev is kind of a powder keg right now due to the whole shadow war that's going on right now.
 
@torroar
Just to clarify, based on the beginning of the last update did we get across something of our regret for how we acted to Hagrid?


[X] Plan: Albion and trade, no Lodge or Kislev
 
@torroar
Just to clarify, based on the beginning of the last update did we get across something of our regret for how we acted to Hagrid?

?

made it a point to apologize to him both in private and publically amongst the rest of your council. It had been no fault of his, you declared, but rather your own fugue state of perpetual anger and lethargy. Thankfully, he seemed to forgive you, and his work proved exemplary both during the investigation and afterwards.

Not sure what you mean?
 
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