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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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- Location
- Illinois
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- He/Him
This is absolutely not a surprise. I'd have honestly expected more hawk swings. Well, we'll see as more elections come around.
(image credit @Leila Hann of course)
Yikes, ok, I don't love this idea in that case. But, on the other hand, it could still be worth it, depending on what the chances of success are. Surprised it's not the most expensive option here though.
The Ataami are a good target for a diplopush as they are only 10 relations from becoming our affilliates where they will start getting automatic pushes each year.
Tracked down and added Continuing Diplomatic Pushes for Q4 and Q1.
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
- Location
- USoA
Is this the Risan Border Zone?
- Pronouns
- They/Them
As far as non-affiliates go, I would like to try for the Uaquuo, the Dobetia, and the Alupii in order to continue resolving their Distant Stars tags and allowing the FDS to get to work. This would also be beneficial for long-term Cardassian containment purposes.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
- Location
- Peterborough, NH, USA
Is this supposed to be funny?!
So, one diplopush on them to finish this off then?
little point to that the FDS tag will take the rest of the year to resolve and soon after that it the tag gets completed during the 2327 snakepit.
Himmelhand
Giant Sinkhole 2020
- Location
- Midwestern US
They'll get an auto push that will get them over the line by year's end.
The Felis need work on their FDS tag ASAP. Especially with them being one of the primary proxy battlegrounds between the Federation and the Harmony.
Does anyone think there is value in rolling for a higher budget? Is that just more SR and BR, or do we get additional pp/crew income as well? It would make sense that the Council may be more willing to open their checkbooks in times such as this.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
The obvious Gaeni mad science solution is to build the terrifying Gaeni moon cannon and the Gaeni Singer trap starbase in the same system, and then use the moon cannon to BOOM-HEADSHOT the starbase if things start going horribly wrong.
Of course, the risk is then that the Singer will decide to seize control of the moon cannon itself.
Of course, the risk is then that the Singer will decide to seize control of the moon cannon itself.
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- They/Them
What is the Frozen Protectorate? Also that name reminds me of a certain recent franchise.
They're those guys the Klingons are gonna conquer.
EDIT: I disavowed this for a new plan posted later in the thread.
[][COUNCIL] Briefvoice Snakepit 2326
Okay, this is my plan.
Colonies selected on being in or near Federation borders rather than way far away, return, and the discount we have on the Hill 361 one.
All the Crew increase we can get from Academy expansion.
Focused diplomacy on 4 strong allies and the Misek at a gamble.
Ship refit for a "low crew" kepler.
Listenign post catch-up on two BZs where we don't ahve them.
More engineering.
The two Gaeni projects that don't cost ep.
Decided to go to two out of 4 available task groups,
New auxiliary yard is a must, and Fiiral is pretty well-protected and wants a shipyard.
Waystations to protect the GBZ from opportunistic Cardassian grab during our war with the Harmony.
Sensor platforms to protect Harmony fronts.
Waystations to protect Paddah sector.
That's it,\.
(EDIT: Fixed the mistaken colony double-copy.)
- Request Research Colony Hill 361 Archive, N'Lask, 9pp, 2 cp, 4 (6.5) rp/year, 4 turns (Sol; may not be transferred to United Earth)
- Request Mining Colony 23 Levar VIII, 12pp, 2 cp, 15 (35) sr/year, 4 turns (GBZ)
- Request Mining Colony LM-34-V-XL, 14pp, 2 cp, 20 (35) br/yr, 4 turns (Tellar)
- Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 2 (4.5) rp/year, 4 turns (GBZ)
- Arrange to Pass Control of a potential colony site to a nearby power, gain +10pp from members or +15 relations from affiliates or other powers - Mining Colony Qendip III, 10 (25) br/year) (Rethelia; pass to STO) +10pp
- Request Academy Development, 30pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
- Request Explorer Corps Annex Development, 25pp (Gain +0.15 EC O/E/T throughput)
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Yrillians) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Tauni) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Sydraxians) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Ashidi) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Misek) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request to start a ship refit project, 20pp, 2 turns for frigates ("low crew" Kepler refit)
- Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1pt of Intel Spending on reports for powers on that border. (Imelak Border Zone), 20pp
- Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1pt of Intel Spending on reports for powers on that border. (Rimward Border Zone), 20pp
- Request allocation for new Engineering Team, 50pp, will allow 2 x Engineering Ships to be built in Starfleet line yards, providing 2 ep on completion.
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved - pp cost is based on inherent risk: convert Starbase computer into Singer trap, 80pp, (Ke'lurr Starbase in the HBZ), 4 turns
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved: Dreamer Ranger Gear, 50pp, 20sr, 2 turns
- Request resources for an extra Starfleet Intelligence Operations task group (Will add a Science-heavy event responder for intel events - see notes), 30pp, 1 year, (Offense)
- Request Civil Service cooperation for an early Law Enforcement task group (Will add a balanced event responder for intel events - see notes), 30pp, 1 year
- (9ep used below)
- Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Fiiral>, 3ep, 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
- Upgrade Convoy Waystations in a particular Sector, 2 ep, 40pp, 4 turns (Gabriel Border Zone)
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Map Square C5, for Kelowna Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Becarra System, for Okatha Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Upgrade Convoy Waystations in a particular Sector, 2 ep, 40pp, 4 turns (Paddah Sector)
- 8 extra engineering points from members = 40 pp
- = 685 – 10 for colony = 675 pp
Okay, this is my plan.
Colonies selected on being in or near Federation borders rather than way far away, return, and the discount we have on the Hill 361 one.
All the Crew increase we can get from Academy expansion.
Focused diplomacy on 4 strong allies and the Misek at a gamble.
Ship refit for a "low crew" kepler.
Listenign post catch-up on two BZs where we don't ahve them.
More engineering.
The two Gaeni projects that don't cost ep.
Decided to go to two out of 4 available task groups,
New auxiliary yard is a must, and Fiiral is pretty well-protected and wants a shipyard.
Waystations to protect the GBZ from opportunistic Cardassian grab during our war with the Harmony.
Sensor platforms to protect Harmony fronts.
Waystations to protect Paddah sector.
That's it,\.
(EDIT: Fixed the mistaken colony double-copy.)
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- He/Him
Yes.
Is this supposed to be funny?!
Last time we managed a successful budget increase, we gained higher BR/SR income, but there was additional legislation attached. I don't recall any other benefits, and it's not guaranteed to give us useful results.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
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- Liberl Zemuria.
[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice Snakepit 2326
Missing mining colonies added.
Night
Widow Null
- Location
- Hoff
@Briefvoice Can we convince you to do literally anything but risk a Starbase?
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- They/Them
Notably, for that much we could get more resources for Starfleet Intelligence and thus gain more intel without the Ke'luur Starbase potentially exploding or something.
Nope. Feel free to make "breifvoice but without losing starbase" if you want, subbing in 80pp of something else.
Maelore
Totaly not a Romulan
- Location
- Fairfax, VA
I think you probably meant Tauni here.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice Snakepit 2326
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
[X][COUNCIL] Enerael Snakepit 2326
Unordered Lists are an editing nightmare.
Credit to Briefvoice for most of it.
Changes from his plan:
Swapped SR mining colony for BR, because we have such a BR/SR income that we literally can't design ships that match or exceed it if we wanted to (without outright waste), outside of possibly modern light cruisers. We have a massive SR surplus coming.
Changed Ops Task Group to Defense. We are losing there while winning with our ships, so strengthening our offense there does not seem wise.
GBZ Convoy Stations for Rimward Outposts. Our hold on that area really needs some reinforcements, its really new and it's a dangerous space.
Swapped Listening Posts (which are crappier Intel Gathering, as they are more expensive and less versatile with locked targets, much less Intel Command) for more diplopushes and FDS missions.Could buy one for the remaining 20pp, but they aren't good and it's better to have some PPs in reserve.
Edit: Swappne one BR colony to a better one just edited in by SWB, which costs a bit more PP.
Edit2: Inspired by Sunrises plan below, swapped more diplopushes and FDS mission for +3 Intel Points because Intrigue crisis underway.
Edit3: Swapped one Task Group and Eng Team for Research, changed Ops TG for Tactical. This is because of I learned on Discord that Eng and Colony ships don't need line berths, this is just an option to build extra if aux berths don't produce them fast enough for us. And we have some pairs soon to launch.
And now, sleep.
Edit4: Giving the colony to Ataami instead, it makes them affiliates and I didnt need the PPs.
- Request Research Colony Hill 361 Archive, N'Lask, 9pp, 2 cp, 4 (6.5) rp/year, 4 turns (Sol; may not be transferred to United Earth)
- Request Mining Colony V'Ten, 10 (25) br/year, 15 (35) sr/year, 4 turns (GBZ)
- Request Mining Colony LM-34-V-XL, 14pp, 2 cp, 20 (35) br/yr, 4 turns (Tellar)
- Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 2 (4.5) rp/year, 4 turns (GBZ)
- Arrange to Pass Control of a potential colony site to a nearby power, gain +10pp from members or +15 relations from affiliates or other powers - Mining Colony Qendip III, 10 (25) br/year) (Rethelia; pass to Ataami)
- Request Academy Development, 30pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
- Request Explorer Corps Annex Development, 25pp (Gain +0.15 EC O/E/T throughput)
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Yrillians) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Tauni) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Sydraxians) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Ashidi) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Misek TAG - [A Bad Neighbourhood]) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request an increase in the Research budget, 70pp, +1 yearly Breakthrough.
- Request to start a ship refit project, 20pp, 2 turns for frigates ("low crew" Kepler refit)
- Acquire additional resources for Starfleet Intelligence Command, 75pp (Permanently gain +3pt under control of Vice Admiral)
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved - pp cost is based on inherent risk: convert Starbase computer into Singer trap, 80pp, (Ke'lurr Starbase in the HBZ), 4 turns
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved: Dreamer Ranger Gear, 50pp, 20sr, 2 turns
- Request resources for an extra Starfleet Intelligence Tactical task group (Will add a Combat-heavy event responder for intel events - see notes), 30pp, 1 year, (Defense)
- (9ep used below)
- Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Fiiral>, 3ep, 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
- Request new Outposts on 4 Rimward BZ Federation Colonies, 2 ep, 10pp
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Map Square C5, for Kelowna Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Becarra System, for Okatha Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Upgrade Convoy Waystations in a particular Sector, 2 ep, 40pp, 4 turns (Paddah Sector)
- 8 extra engineering points from members = 40 pp
- = 678, 2pp remaining
Unordered Lists are an editing nightmare.
Credit to Briefvoice for most of it.
Changes from his plan:
Swapped SR mining colony for BR, because we have such a BR/SR income that we literally can't design ships that match or exceed it if we wanted to (without outright waste), outside of possibly modern light cruisers. We have a massive SR surplus coming.
Changed Ops Task Group to Defense. We are losing there while winning with our ships, so strengthening our offense there does not seem wise.
GBZ Convoy Stations for Rimward Outposts. Our hold on that area really needs some reinforcements, its really new and it's a dangerous space.
Swapped Listening Posts (which are crappier Intel Gathering, as they are more expensive and less versatile with locked targets, much less Intel Command) for more diplopushes and FDS missions.
Edit: Swappne one BR colony to a better one just edited in by SWB, which costs a bit more PP.
Edit2: Inspired by Sunrises plan below, swapped more diplopushes and FDS mission for +3 Intel Points because Intrigue crisis underway.
Edit3: Swapped one Task Group and Eng Team for Research, changed Ops TG for Tactical. This is because of I learned on Discord that Eng and Colony ships don't need line berths, this is just an option to build extra if aux berths don't produce them fast enough for us. And we have some pairs soon to launch.
And now, sleep.
Edit4: Giving the colony to Ataami instead, it makes them affiliates and I didnt need the PPs.
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Maelore
Totaly not a Romulan
- Location
- Fairfax, VA
Might want to fix that to Tauni.
[X][COUNCIL] Enerael Snakepit 2326 No Trap
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[X] Sunrise snakepit plan
The changes are as follows:
2 more BR colonies Sarcissa Belt and Greenlight II-A, in the new shipbuilder ships will cost more BR vs SR compared to the older designs.
Sarcissa Belt is also close to Bajor and a good place for an outpost to support a fighting in the area.
Diplopushes are targed to get new affiliates for the ataami and Bolians and to help fight the diplomatic fight for control with the push on the Morshadd Commune.
instead of the engineering ships and the Explorer Corps Annex the intel budget is expanded under control of the vice admiral
We are short on ep this year as we started construction for our allies during the mini snakepit and are working on a second UP.
Next year those teams will be available again and any new ships will not start construction till the next shipbuilding vote next year so UP2 will be close to completion before the new engineering ships are completed.
- Request Mining Colony Sarcissa Belt, 15 (30) br/year, 4 turns (IBZ)
- Request Mining Colony 23 Levar VIII, 12pp, 2 cp, 15 (35) sr/year, 4 turns (GBZ)
- Request Mining Colony LM-34-V-XL, 14pp, 2 cp, 20 (35) br/yr, 4 turns (Tellar)
- Request Mining Colony Greenlight II-A, 15 (30) br/year, 4 turns (SBZ)
- Arrange to Pass Control of a potential colony site to a nearby power, gain +10pp from members or +15 relations from affiliates or other powers - Mining Colony Qendip III, 10 (25) br/year) (Rethelia; pass to STO) +10pp
- Request Academy Development, 30pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Bolians) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Tauni) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Ataami) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Ashidi) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species without an N/A tag; 20pp (Morshadd Commune) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request to start a ship refit project, 20pp, 2 turns for frigates ("low crew" Kepler refit)
- Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1pt of Intel Spending on reports for powers on that border. (Imelak Border Zone), 20pp
- Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1pt of Intel Spending on reports for powers on that border. (Rimward Border Zone), 20pp
- Acquire additional resources for Starfleet Intelligence Command, 75pp (Permanently gain +3pt under control of Vice Admiral)
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved - pp cost is based on inherent risk: convert Starbase computer into Singer trap, 80pp, (Ke'lurr Starbase in the HBZ), 4 turns
- Request that an eccentric and esoteric Gaeni defensive project be approved: Dreamer Ranger Gear, 50pp, 20sr, 2 turns
- Request resources for an extra Starfleet Intelligence Operations task group (Will add a Science-heavy event responder for intel events - see notes), 30pp, 1 year, (Offense)
- Request Civil Service cooperation for an early Law Enforcement task group (Will add a balanced event responder for intel events - see notes), 30pp, 1 year
- (9ep used below)
- Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Fiiral>, 3ep, 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
- Upgrade Convoy Waystations in a particular Sector, 2 ep, 40pp, 4 turns (Gabriel Border Zone)
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Map Square C5, for Kelowna Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Request new Sensor Platform in a system or map square – (Becarra System, for Okatha Front) will add an event card to rebuff raiders on that front. 1ep, 10pp
- Upgrade Convoy Waystations in a particular Sector, 2 ep, 40pp, 4 turns (Paddah Sector)
- 8 extra engineering points from members = 40 pp
- = 685 – 10 for colony = 675 pp
The changes are as follows:
2 more BR colonies Sarcissa Belt and Greenlight II-A, in the new shipbuilder ships will cost more BR vs SR compared to the older designs.
Sarcissa Belt is also close to Bajor and a good place for an outpost to support a fighting in the area.
Diplopushes are targed to get new affiliates for the ataami and Bolians and to help fight the diplomatic fight for control with the push on the Morshadd Commune.
instead of the engineering ships and the Explorer Corps Annex the intel budget is expanded under control of the vice admiral
We are short on ep this year as we started construction for our allies during the mini snakepit and are working on a second UP.
Next year those teams will be available again and any new ships will not start construction till the next shipbuilding vote next year so UP2 will be close to completion before the new engineering ships are completed.