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Now I'm imagining all the interns at the Imperial equivalent of Penthouse gathering around to read the letter they got from Anton Kiesinger II. Imagine the scandal! Romance and adultery among the upper nobility, a bachelor and heir playing with the hearts of the Empire's finest young women...

oh, wait, no. He seems to have gotten a bit mixed up and has, uh, described the wonderful (literal) penthouse his wizard friend has in a dwarf peak.

damn it
 
I'm starting to wonder if we need to convince Anton to marry Roswita for the good of Stirland. With him in the Elector Count's chair while she's off campaigning at least the province wouldn't fall apart, and he's got friends who know how to money, which she clearly does not.

But how can I even contemplate inflicting her on poor Anton? I'm a monster.
 
the only way we are getting him back feasible is so steal his soul and the recrate a body
for that is not sterile
We have a book of almost unmatched knowledge on raising the dead, immunity to the corrupting influences of Dhar and access to a possible source of Qhaysh that uses all eight winds just like Dhar.

If there's a human alive who's capable of accomplishing that, it's Mathilde. And we won't know whether or not it is impossible unless we try.
 
[X] Stay single. Marry for love.

[X] 'Head Ranger' (Spymaster), Internal Focus
[X] Court Wizard
 
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I'm starting to wonder if we need to convince Anton to marry Roswita for the good of Stirland. With him in the Elector Count's chair while she's off campaigning at least the province wouldn't fall apart, and he's got friends who know how to money, which she clearly does not.

But how can I even contemplate inflicting her on poor Anton? I'm a monster.
She's probably not a bad person, to be fair. Just blinkered and absolutely clueless when it comes to how to make a province work.
 
This strikes me as a bit anachronistic.
While tax farming was indeed a real historical thing, in this setting it's already been established that losing the old tax information was a blow to the Elector-Count's legitimacy. Remember when we lost it all?

Of course it's possible that losing the actual paperwork was the problem (perhaps it was a symbol?) but I'd guess that the office of the Elector-Count was established partly to end the "bad old days" Wilhemina mentioned in this update, when tax-farming was a thing. The legitimacy of the Elector-Count is probably centered around military protection, the Emperor, and handling taxes in a centralized and "fair" manner. Losing the taxes is a blow. Not a crippling one, but not a great decision anyway.

EDIT: and yes, I do consider corvee as taxes. You just don't pay them in cash.
 
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We have a book of almost unmatched knowledge on raising the dead, immunity to the corrupting influences of Dhar and access to a possible source of Qhaysh that uses all eight winds just like Dhar.

If there's a human alive who's capable of accomplishing that, it's Mathilde. And we won't know whether or not it is impossible unless we try.
Even if we can(and that is a very, very big IF) that does not mean that we should. We would both be on a kill list for using forbidden magic and being the product of one.
 
I can't really find myself to blame her for not wanting to work next to someone who literally might explode any day. Especially since she already had a Spymaster lined up who she knew she could trust..

She should've tried keeping better hold of Anton though. Guy's a miracle-worker-
The problem wasn't Roswita firing Mathilde. It was the way she went about it.

I imagine that in Roswita Quest, they botched a diplomancy roll at least.

As for her advisors, Roswita is off campaigning, but this is what Anton had to say about her rule.
"Fort Redemption is the new Wurtbad, they're saying," he says as the two of you look over a map of Stirland. "She's brought Southern Stirland to heel and the selling off of the Hunter's Hills are going well, and after the Countess disappeared she brought Nachthafen and Pfaffbach under her control. The Black Guard love her, Central Stirland has never felt safer, and the road Abelhelm had made has been a boon for trade. But she's completely ignoring Western Stirland, and you more than anybody knows what the problem with that is."

So by all accounts her new Chancellor is doing well and Roswita has obviously managed to shore up her Marshall's deficiencies (or replaced him with someone better).
The problem is that her replacement Steward is such a hack I would almost imagine he's a plant for Wilhelma.
 
We have a book of almost unmatched knowledge on raising the dead, immunity to the corrupting influences of Dhar and access to a possible source of Qhaysh that uses all eight winds just like Dhar.

If there's a human alive who's capable of accomplishing that, it's Mathilde. And we won't know whether or not it is impossible unless we try.

I mean, are you really all that into Abelhelm? I'm not. It's sad he died; he was a good man. But lots of good men die every day. Plenty of fish in that sea.
 
She's probably not a bad person, to be fair. Just blinkered and absolutely clueless when it comes to how to make a province work.
Well one thing we have to keep in mind is that when she got the position she was younger than Mathilde was when she first started. Honestly the girl probably depends pretty heavily on her advisers for a lot of stuff that isn't directly related to killing undead. As a result any divided loyalties or problems from her councilors are magnified and she is a lot less able to compensate.
 
Stop: We don't advocate for genocide here bud. Cut it out.
so this is not okay at all
So I'm sure that everyone participating in this thread is aware of the rules and guidlines of SV. But despite my certainty of this fact, it confuses me that things like this:
Ok, no prob, edited my original post.

Just to be clear i was referring to airdropped fungal pesticide and some thing like an effective sterile ratpoison.
IRRC these Greenskins is of the fungi kind and not the woman ravaging kind ( like in the goblin slayer).
And of rats... they have to do something about the rats...

Are being stated on the site. So let me break this down real quick; this comment is a very hateful comment that's advocating genocide on an entire race. That's not okay. Regardless on whether or not this is a fictional race or a real one, that is not okay. So!

Because you like doing things like this, take 25 and a week off from the thread, since you couldn't even attempt to backtrack after being advised to do so by a moderator participating in the thread. Don't do it again.

As for everyone else...well, practice self-control and be kind with each other, and try to make sure things don't get out of hand in this thread guys.
 
Even if we can(and that is a very, very big IF) that does not mean that we should. We would both be on a kill list for using forbidden magic and being the product of one.
This is exactly the kind of common sense that needs to be overcome if MathildeXAbel is going to be a thing. See how we shippers have our work cut out for us?

Also, you forgot how the body needs to be lifelike enough that Abel will not reflexively stab his undead body upon revival. That's also an important ethical consideration.

The problem wasn't Roswita firing Mathilde. It was the way she went about it.

I imagine that in Roswita Quest, they botched a diplomancy roll at least.
Nah, this really reads like one of those cases where SV grossly miscalculates how subordinates would take things.

Like the time we thought to put a Mindhole inside our employees that we would activate at time of firing and remove compromising memories. Which BoneyM kindly informed us would make it very, very difficult to convince people to work for us.

EDIT: I can easily imagine them going "We will give her a glowing review so she can find a job wherever she wants. She would be an idiot to turn that down."
 
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While tax farming was indeed a real historical thing, in this setting it's already been established that losing the old tax information was a blow to the Elector-Count's legitimacy. Remember when we lost it all?

Of course it's possible that losing the actual paperwork was the problem (perhaps it was a symbol?) but I'd guess that the office of the Elector-Count was established partly to end the "bad old days" Wilhemina mentioned in this update, when tax-farming was a thing. The legitimacy of the Elector-Count is probably centered around military protection, the Emperor, and handling taxes in a centralized and "fair" manner. Losing the taxes is a blow. Not a crippling one, but not a great decision anyway.

EDIT: and yes, I do consider corvee as taxes. You just don't pay them in cash.
IIRC, the problem with the stolen paperwork was that without the records of how much the nobles were supposed to pay, Van Hal couldn't check whether they were cheating him and paying less than they should, and wouldn't be able to prove it if they were. So the taxation of Stirland was essentially running on the honor system and would implode if anyone called their bluff and demanded he produce proof that they were required to pay taxes.
 
Your eyes widen at the seal stamped into the wax, and you unroll it to find a contract very similar to ones you've signed.

"Baron Anton Kiesinger II, in his capacity as the Baron of Blutdorf, ownership of a stake of 16% of the Eastern Imperial Company?"

"I saw how Wilhelmina was as Steward, she's scary when it comes to trading and finances and whatnot. So when she started clashing with the West Stirland Riverine Company - you remember, with Franzen and Wolfsbach? I told them it'd probably go really badly, and they spoke to her, and the Countess is paying a fortune for those handguns she's trying to introduce so she jumped at the chance to be bought out of the EIC. They got half each, and that meant that the EIC had the entire Old Dwarf Road, and with the Countess away the EIC has a free hand throughout the demesne so that gives them the Nuln Road all the way to Ramsau. And of course I'm not going to ignore the advise I just gave to Petra and Artur, am I? So when Wilhelmina came to town with that look in her eye, I didn't just get out of her way, I jump aboard. I cracked open the treasury, bought 16% of her share, damn near gave Da a heart attack. But then just as the Countess is getting mad at Nuln for the prices for all those handguns - which the EIC is being paid to ship, by the way - Wilhelmina has a word with her and gives her the idea, what if Stirland made the guns? And you know, Bultdorf already has a crossbow factory, it's got a Guild of Engineers, it's a safe distance from Sylvania, so where better? So Wilhelmina turns around and gives me back all that money I bought her share with, and we've just broken ground on a handgun factory that's going to have an exclusive contract to supply the Army of Stirland."
I'm... I'm trying to parse it and I want to scream. And I am an absolute ignoramus in economics.

So, you are a brand new elector-countess of Stirland. You have just inherited a province with it's coffers empty but it's armies victorious and it's ancient enemies dealt a heavy blow. Your soldiers are a hardy and stoic lot, if a bit conservative, and your position, while not great is not terrible. So, your first move?

-Reamament. Guns are neat.

Except you are told that your soldiers hate guns, and will not take the reform in good spirit. You press on, half your army resigned and guns are fucking expensive, so you've got underarmed army and a hole where your treasury used to be.

Now there is a megacartel which you own a part of, and which is paid for supplying your army (including the transportation of your beloved guns). They have money, you need money - so you strike a deal - they pay you a lump sum, you give them taxation rights. And then you take that lump sum and... buy more guns, obviously. Infrastructure is for sissies. But now you have a bright idea: the guns will be cheaper if you produce them in Stirland instead of far away, right? And you pay that megacartel for army supplies anyway, why complicate things? What if they were the ones to make guns for you?

They agree, enthusiastically. Except you are once again out of money, but hey, they once again cough up a lump sum - for your share of the cartel this time. You agree, enthusiastically - you are going to save a lot of money buying cheap and good Stirlandian guns. In fact, they are willing to offer an even better price if you promise not to buy guns from anyone else. You know a good deal when you see one, and you agree.


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So, she actually paid the monster that is EIC to get a state monopoly on guns. With her share of EIC, letting go of what little control over it she had. She also sold taxation rights to the EIC. And what money she didn't pay EIC for services, she used on buying guns.


Please, tell me I am mistaken. PLEASE.

The only silver lining is that she is obviously the rightful ruler of Stirland - the blood of Dieter IV is unmistakeable.
 
Hmm, maybe it's just me, but this seems concerning. A highly ranked spy who likes having power is potentially very bad, even if they're not a cultist or traitor or something.
I suspect Stirland will be better off if Julia does marry into its nobility somewhere, because having someone who is highly ambitious but has no solid position tying them down and giving them things to care about other than "professional spymaster" is how you get tied up in really nasty intrigue escalation knots as they hammer the "scheme" button again and again. It's the best and only button they have to use, after all.

Julia at this point cares about 1) her family back in Flensburg, 2) maintaining her own power base, 3) doing great things (remember we found out about her Ambition when she was talking about crazy trading schemes that were just this side of unachievable). She badly needs stable channels for that ambition or she'll just expand, expand, expand to the limits of her capacity with no real cause other than becoming more powerful and whatever awesome idea she approves of this week. And it kind of sounded like that's exactly what she was doing last we spoke with her; she was expanding into Sylvania as directed but also making Western Stirland her personal playground. Unfortunately we did not check in with her this update when visiting friends to get another sense of what's up in Stirland Spyland.
 
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Well one thing we have to keep in mind is that when she got the position she was younger than Mathilde was when she first started. Honestly the girl probably depends pretty heavily on her advisers for a lot of stuff that isn't directly related to killing undead. As a result any divided loyalties or problems from her councilors are magnified and she is a lot less able to compensate.
Title drop.
 
Even if we can(and that is a very, very big IF) that does not mean that we should. We would both be on a kill list for using forbidden magic and being the product of one.

Technically only Dhar is forbidden. Human mages having access to large quantities of
Qhaysh is unknown and unprecedented.

While tax farming was indeed a real historical thing, in this setting it's already been established that losing the old tax information was a blow to the Elector-Count's legitimacy. Remember when we lost it all?

Of course it's possible that losing the actual paperwork was the problem (perhaps it was a symbol?) but I'd guess that the office of the Elector-Count was established partly to end the "bad old days" Wilhemina mentioned in this update, when tax-farming was a thing. The legitimacy of the Elector-Count is probably centered around military protection, the Emperor, and handling taxes in a centralized and "fair" manner. Losing the taxes is a blow. Not a crippling one, but not a great decision anyway.

That's more because by losing the records they had no idea what taxes were due so even informed bureaucratic change wasn't possible.

Basically Van Hal would have to either painstakingly tally everything again losing time and prestige or just haphazardly throw darts on the map, losing efficiency and pissing off nobles.
 
Hey I am not too caught up with the thread only occasionaly read a few pages after updates but I generally try to read all op posts. And from what I can gather dwarfs are not very good at making swords as axes or hammers so any sword we commison would doublesly be made by a master dwarf but that master is not going to be a master of sword crafting
(qm said something like
master dwarf:+15 sword expertise:+0
Master human:+10 sword expertise:+10). So can someone tell me if instead of spending our hard earned dwarf favours on a greatsword instead of a hammer or greataxe and then spending some actions training them would be better. Yes we already know the greatsword but we are no master yet(1/3advanced). From some military action we already know we can more easily learn greataxe and it would not be hard to find a dwarf willing to teach us their prefered weapons. Would this not be a better choice for a dwarf made weapon to spend on all those favors on? If someone more knowledgable can answer this I would be delighted as this has been bugging me for some time.
 
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