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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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onurpower said:
Hey I am not too caught up with the thread only occasionaly read a few pages after updates but I generally try to read all op posts. And from what I can gather dwarfs are not very good at making swords as axes or hammers so any sword we commison would doublesly be made by a master dwarf but that master is not going to be a master of sword crafting
(qm said something like
master dwarf:+15 sword expertise:+0
Master human:+10 sword expertise:+10). So can someone tell me if instead of spending our hard earned dwarf favours on a greatsword instead of a hammer or greataxe and then spending some actions training them would be better. Yes we already know the greatsword but we are no master yet(1/3advanced). From some military action we already know we can more easily learn greataxe and it would not be hard to find a dwarf willing to teach us their prefered weapons. Would this not be a better choice for a dwarf made weapon to spend on all those favors on? If someone more knowledgable can answer this I would be delighted as this has been bugging me for some time.
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The GM has firmly stated such talk is to be tabled until its relevant.
 
BoneyM said:
[Timely Tithe: +1 College Favour.
[Diplomatic Benefits of K8P: +4 College Favours.]
[Economic Benefits of K8P: Pending.]
[Strategic Benefits of K8P: Pending.]
[Wrangling Journeymen: +2 College Favours.]
[Observations on Runecraft During The Expedition To Karak Eight Peaks. Subject: Uncommon, +0. Insight: Confirming +1. Delivery: Compelling, +1. Shared credit, -1. Varied, +1. Final Rating: +2.]
[Deployment of an 'Anvil Of Doom' During The Battle Of Karag Nar. Subject: Rare, +1. Insights: Revolutionary (Lightning and Lava), +2. Delivery: Compelling, +1. Shared credit, -1. Precious, +1. Final Rating: +4]
[Dragon Ogres and Volcanic Lightning. Subject: Rare, +1. Insights: Revolutionary, +2. Delivery: Compelling, +1. Shared credit, -1. Tactically Relevant, +1. Final Rating: +4]
[Lustrian eggs: Pending.]
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I. Huh. So...am i just underestimating the favor drain from lessons and stuff on most magisters and above? Because while this was a big thing, it also seems like this sort of favor gain from papers and the like would mean that 9-favor items like the seed of regrowth were a lot more common than i'd assumed they were o_O

Also god the decisions are tough this time around...

not sure on marriage vote, but for now some approval jobvoting:
[X] Steward
[X] Court Wizard
[X] No role
 
[X] Marry them...
- [X] Stefanie Krebs
That Aver canal plan is pretty ambitious and more likely to fail than the gun plan, but it's also more !!FUN!!, in the dwarven sense.

[X] Steward
[X] No role
I've been gunning for that internal intrigue role since the beginning, but now I realize that I'd rather she did something knew. Mathile is not particularly suited for that role, tbh, but she'll grow into it, no doubt.
 
Oh, another thing that came to mind. Once Anton gets married, if it's not to us...well, most wives aren't very understanding about their husband having very close relationships with other women, unless they're just not attached to their husbands very much if at all. So, either the person who marries Anton doesn't really care about him, or we'll then have to keep our distance from him.
 
Kornet said:
So, she actually paid the monster that is EIC to get a state monopoly on guns. With her share of EIC, letting go of what little control over it she had. She also sold taxation rights to the EIC. And what money she didn't pay EIC for services, she used on buying guns.


Please, tell me I am mistaken. PLEASE.

The only silver lining is that she is obviously the rightful ruler of Stirland - the blood of Dieter IV is unmistakeable.
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Ehhh... yeah, pretty much. The EIC is basically taking every single gold coin that the Countess is letting fall from her purse strings in the effort to pacify Sylvania. Which has made them a monster in terms of being an economic powerhouse in western Stirland, which is the wealthiest part of Stirland. The only thing better they could do would be to exert some measure of control over the gold mine found in Drakenhof.

But basically, at this point, the EIC is the premier economic powerhouse in Stirland, and with a little bit of work, they could become indispensable to Stirland which makes it all that more difficult to remove.
 
Abby Normal said:
I. Huh. So...am i just underestimating the favor drain from lessons and stuff on most magisters and above? Because while this was a big thing, it also seems like this sort of favor gain from papers and the like would mean that 9-favor items like the seed of regrowth were a lot more common than i'd assumed they were o_O
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Being inside the Colleges gives you a shortcut around the usual "do we trust them, and are we okay with them getting more power" dynamic that would come into play if anyone else wanted to get their hands on magical goodies. On top of that, the College favour trading means you're basically paying cost while everyone else has to pay retail.

It's powerful, but so is being able to command an army, or collect taxes, or speak on behalf of a God, or speak with the authority of the Emperor, or all the other possible flavours of movers and shakers in the Empire.
 
Write-in suggestion:
[] Suggest to Anton that he approach the problem as if he were trying to find a match for a man exactly like him, in exactly his position. Suggest that as a fallback, he consider [Second place].

@BoneyM would this be acceptable?
 
voting tally on the future of mathilde's career for the dwarves:
Adhoc vote count started by Gingganz on Oct 2, 2019 at 5:00 PM, finished with 465 posts and 144 votes.
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We don't exactly have Stirland's account books. For all we know, they've found enough gold mines to keep them solidly in the black once they're established. (That could even be why they went so much for lump sums, as seed money to get the mines up and running, for all we know)

Just calm down, honestly.
 
DarkLight140 said:
I suspect Stirland will be better off if Julia does marry into its nobility somewhere, because having someone who is highly ambitious but has no solid position tying them down and giving them things to care about other than "professional spymaster" is how you get tied up in really nasty intrigue escalation knots as they hammer the "scheme" button again and again. It's the best and only button they have to use, after all.

Julia at this point cares about 1) her family back in Flensburg, 2) maintaining her own power base, 3) doing great things (remember we found out about her Ambition when she was talking about crazy trading schemes that were just this side of unachievable). She badly needs stable channels for that ambition or she'll just expand, expand, expand to the limits of her capacity with no real cause other than becoming more powerful and whatever awesome idea she approves of this week. And it kind of sounded like that's exactly what she was doing last we spoke with her; she was expanding into Sylvania as directed but also making Western Stirland her personal playground. Unfortunately we did not check in with her this update when visiting friends to get another sense of what's up in Stirland Spyland.
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I wouldn't worry about Julia, since if Mathilde heard that she was up to something that would harm Stirland we'd pay her a visit and have a nice chat with her about her plans.
 
Rule 5 - Do not debate staff decisions in-thread.
das_slash said:
Not gonna lie, I saw a staff post and thought that we somehow had committed shipping-war crimes.
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I still find the no advocating genocide against non real races and people rule confusing and silly this is Warhammer some of the bad guys are cartoonishly evil and have no redeeming traits baked into them
 
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Mopman43 said:
We don't exactly have Stirland's account books. For all we know, they've found enough gold mines to keep them solidly in the black once they're established. (That could even be why they went so much for lump sums, as seed money to get the mines up and running, for all we know)
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I think that using gold mines to stabilize the budget is an extremely risky move. Unless managed properly, there is potential for some pretty nasty inflation with such an influx of gold, and the inflation will make running the Province even more difficult than it is now.
 
Thor's Twin said:
Ehhh... yeah, pretty much. The EIC is basically taking every single gold coin that the Countess is letting fall from her purse strings in the effort to pacify Sylvania. Which has made them a monster in terms of being an economic powerhouse in western Stirland, which is the wealthiest part of Stirland. The only thing better they could do would be to exert some measure of control over the gold mine found in Drakenhof.

But basically, at this point, the EIC is the premier economic powerhouse in Stirland, and with a little bit of work, they could become indispensable to Stirland which makes it all that more difficult to remove.
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And while this isn't so much of a problem at the moment, because while Wilhelmina is looking to make as much money as possible she's not the sort to abuse the position too much, in the future? If someone with few or no scruples gets control of the EIC? Stirland is kinda screwed.

...remind me, how much do Wilhelmina's sons care about being reasonable and ethical businessmen again?
 
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NSMS said:
And while this isn't so much of a problem at the moment, because while Wilhelmina is looking to make as much money as possible she's not the sort to go abuse the position too much, in the future? If someone with few or no scruples gets control of the EIC? Stirland is kinda screwed.

...remind me, how much do Wilhelmina's sons care about being reasonable and ethical businessmen again?
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They don't, her sons are disappointments who would put their profits ahead of Stirland.
 
NSMS said:
And while this isn't so much of a problem at the moment, because while Wilhelmina is looking to make as much money as possible she's not the sort to go abuse the position too much, in the future? If someone with few or no scruples gets control of the EIC? Stirland is kinda screwed.

...remind me, how much do Wilhelmina's sons care about being reasonable and ethical businessmen again?
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Not very much, but they would have to contend with us. Mathilde has a 36% share in the company, which given how Stirland just sold its controlling share may be the largest single shareholder of the company, and can throw some weight around. And, if worse comes to worse, Mathilde is perfectly capable of tearing the entire EIC down to the ground. She did it before as a Journeyman, she can certainly do it with inside knowledge as a magister.
 
Mopman43 said:
We don't exactly have Stirland's account books. For all we know, they've found enough gold mines to keep them solidly in the black once they're established. (That could even be why they went so much for lump sums, as seed money to get the mines up and running, for all we know)

Just calm down, honestly.
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When the only thing that can make a leader's economic decisions sound reasonable is 'maybe they found a gold mine' odds are they screwed up badly.
 
Abby Normal said:
I. Huh. So...am i just underestimating the favor drain from lessons and stuff on most magisters and above? Because while this was a big thing, it also seems like this sort of favor gain from papers and the like would mean that 9-favor items like the seed of regrowth were a lot more common than i'd assumed they were o_O

Also god the decisions are tough this time around...

not sure on marriage vote, but for now some approval jobvoting:
[X] Steward
[X] Court Wizard
[X] No role
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How common do you think papers on anvils of doom in combat and Dragonogres feeding on lightning are?
 
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