Wait if Aunt Susan becomes clan head... who is gonna be the heir?
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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Seems to me that part of the plan for the brackets was to make the first years fight the second years, as in "If you can't win with a year advantage then you really don't deserve to pass" ?
On a normal year it would be blatant favoritism towards the second year disciples.
Here and now ? Preeetty much the opposite!
Remember that second years don't necessarily have a year advantage over anyone apart from Ji Rong and Ling Qi, as the nobles could have been cultivating for many years previously.
If there's really an absolute step change in Cultivation ability when people turn fourteen, then the nobility will simply arrange to have their children be born so that they're the oldest possible in their year of sect admission, gaining an average of a free six months optimal cultivation compared to those of commoner background.
It's not about whether HJ has a chance to win, it's about making a big spectacle about the fact that the second in line o the Han only made it to high Yellow with all the years of cultivation he's had while Shen Hu made it to Green 2 with less resources and very likely in much less time.
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"Ling Qi, you are taking the phrase bow shaped lips too far!"
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"Years of cultivation" before 14 barely amounts to a few months of a headstart on unawakened Cultivators.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Unlikely.
What I think is more likely to happen is that Chu Song moves 50 yards or so off the back of some instants, and then launches some kind of sword-pressure wave with a 100 yard or so range on us. Possibly with a conditional "If you hit the target with this, you close the distance further" caveat, kind of like how our Fleeting Zephyr has a push as its capstone.
OwS, GCD, and either TRD/HRA/On The Wind activates on Ling Qi's side, most of them as instants, and she dodges, because her ranged defense is particularly potent thanks to Fleeting Zephyr, and then she establishes stealth as her next move, shadowporting behind some cover and trees as she goes.
Then we get to find out if Chu Song has cheap and accurate supernatural tracking that she brought along here, but either way, it means next turn, she's spending resources on that instead of charging us, and we get to find out how our stealth compares with her. If we can't reliably stay out of her sight and can't outrun her, then we find a good spot and drop Zhengui in boulder form, and then try for an OwS backstab opener, with our tortoise springing out while her back is turned or something. If we can completely break contact, we get enough distance and then spool up our full FVM suite and come back riding our doom tortoise laughing like a maniac as a force of nature.
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- The Temple of the Winds
Meizhen and CRX starting at an age in the single digit kind of proves the opposite.
I wouldn't be surprised if pre-teen cultivators have a heavy physical/spiritual cultivation malus, but can cultivate Arts normally.
I mean, if Sun Liling didn't come into the Sect as a (late?) yellow with a douzen+ Arts already cultivated up to that point, then it would have been extremely difficult for her to train up her general cultivation level and her many Arts up from scratch up to Green 1 (or 2).
If that's the point that humiliates HJ, then have no fear, no matter what bracket setup the Sect could have put in place he, and just about every other Mid-to-High Noble spawns, would already be humiliated by both the commoners Ling Qi and Ji Rong being Green 1 in a single year.
No fight needed.
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It likely won't be certain at the time, but considering how long it is until then there's a good chance Meizhen could a candidate.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Gotcha, thanks!
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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TRF is not something most people are talking about. The order I've seen is:
Win
Get Zhengui involved
Keep PLR and the Horror concealed so we can punt Ji Rong in Ro8
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- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
A reminder that she has a direct line to her dear Grandfather via her spirit and he's been sending her lots of help such as Arts and drugs.
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- Brazil
What now?
This flies in the face of everything we've seen of the setting.
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See my point about the nobility then optimising what time of year their children are all born, and getting an average of six months advantage, as it makes what time of year a child is born a critical factor into whether they'll get into the Inner Sect or not.
It's a question of how much it's being emphasised. Having him go up against the very strongest non-High noble emphasises it the most, as it can't be politely ignored as easily.
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- The Temple of the Winds
yrs stated multiple times in-quest that without a solid base it's harder to cultivate latter Arts, if not impossible. And that base is apparently made by earlier simpler Arts, hence Red Arts are actually useful in the long run.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ling Qi picking up a completely unrelated Art (say, a Heaven element Palm Art ?) would find it needs double the success as say music based FVM to reach the same level.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
What we know about starting early:
From, the sound of it, getting cultivation levels early is hard. Getting large qi and lots of arts is less so. That means we should possible expect that the nobility might be able to slot in red arts aimed at making it easier to target specific weaknesses or blunting observed enemy tactics.
From, the sound of it, getting cultivation levels early is hard. Getting large qi and lots of arts is less so. That means we should possible expect that the nobility might be able to slot in red arts aimed at making it easier to target specific weaknesses or blunting observed enemy tactics.
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Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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Indigo+ people are Talent7+ at least, and violet Talent 8+. Sun Shao should have 20+ violets under him, and quite a few Indigo with Talent 8.
Tlaent 7 is nice, and great if you a low noble. it's not, one the scale of a province, high talent.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Uh, no.
They might have that Talent by the time that they're at this level, but in terms of actual starting position Talent 7 is obscene.
And anyone who can get to Indigo on their own at all is exceptional to begin with, and in no way the norm. Fucking Shenhua had a relatively normal progression path for a Talent 6/7 person until she found her cheat code in Indigo and rode it to White in a decade.
I would be entirely unsurprised if it turns out that a Ducal House has maybe a score or two Indigos total. Not the 'Dozens if not hundreds' you're suggesting.
They might have that Talent by the time that they're at this level, but in terms of actual starting position Talent 7 is obscene.
And anyone who can get to Indigo on their own at all is exceptional to begin with, and in no way the norm. Fucking Shenhua had a relatively normal progression path for a Talent 6/7 person until she found her cheat code in Indigo and rode it to White in a decade.
I would be entirely unsurprised if it turns out that a Ducal House has maybe a score or two Indigos total. Not the 'Dozens if not hundreds' you're suggesting.
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Hmm, we were told:
Do we know what Talent Yanmei, who was described as a genius (which seems better than how Ji Rong has been described) is?
IIRC , we've been told that talent and Talent are not the same thing. People with high Talent can still burn out and get distracted.
Do we know what Talent Yanmei, who was described as a genius (which seems better than how Ji Rong has been described) is?
IIRC , we've been told that talent and Talent are not the same thing. People with high Talent can still burn out and get distracted.
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I noticed during the update that Ling Qi was reminder of hands massaging her clogged meridians when she saw the white city. This suggests that the White rooms are in fact a part of Shenhua's domain.
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- CA
Yanmei reached Cyan by 22. We are projected to reach Cyan by 20 or so. By our estimates Ji Rong should be more talented than Yanmei. He'd likely be considered more genius were he not both in our year and an enemy of Cai's order, which set him back a few times.
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I... don't believe spending 9 qi to move a total of 51m is wise qi spending. I also don't think that spending 4 qi for 5 dice of stealth is that much of a good trade, especially since we don't need the shadowporting to cover particularly dangerous terrain or maneuver around a person. We are just trying to get away from a person. In that vein, I can't support plan "Once More Into the Shadow."
However, there is a startling lack of other viable plans being proposed. As such, here is my proposal.
[X] Weathered Storm, Winter's Fury
-[X] Chu Song will have the initiative, so we must weather her assault before beginning our own. Respond to her initial attack with Ten Ring Defense, and then prepare our defenses with Thousand Rings Unbreaking and Deepwood Vitality. Turn aside her next assault with Grinning Cresent Dancer, and begin the counter-attack with Spring's End Aria and Mists of the Vale. Zhengui's job will be to serve as our shield against Chu Song's companion while we bring our musical might to bear against Chu Song. Reserve the Horror and Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry unless we are loosing and they might turn the tide.
However, there is a startling lack of other viable plans being proposed. As such, here is my proposal.
[X] Weathered Storm, Winter's Fury
-[X] Chu Song will have the initiative, so we must weather her assault before beginning our own. Respond to her initial attack with Ten Ring Defense, and then prepare our defenses with Thousand Rings Unbreaking and Deepwood Vitality. Turn aside her next assault with Grinning Cresent Dancer, and begin the counter-attack with Spring's End Aria and Mists of the Vale. Zhengui's job will be to serve as our shield against Chu Song's companion while we bring our musical might to bear against Chu Song. Reserve the Horror and Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry unless we are loosing and they might turn the tide.
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- The Temple of the Winds
[X] Plan Zhengui needs some experience too
-[X] Use FSA, FZ and SCS to attack Chu Song from range and not allow her to close the gap (aka kitting)
-[X] Buff Zhengui and then have him ambush Chu Song's Bear pet and defeat it
-[X] Once the previous is done, Kite Chu Song over to Zhengui and switch to the flute + musical Arts to focus on helping Zhengui in his fight against a debuffed Chu Song.
We've already shown our mobility so kitting is nothing new, Archery is strating to fall by the side so it isn't an issue to show it either. We do showcase Zhengui, but honestly it's the best moment to do so, as I doubt he could serve as the hidden trump card let alone win the fight against Ji Rong anyway. And even less against Liling.
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