Betcha Sun is sporting a "dispel all effects affecting user" single-use talisman, just to make our life especially miserable.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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- Original Fantasy
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Well if we can force her to use it Bai should be able to beat her.
Grosstoad
Birdbrain - Dick - Rules-Lawyer - Creeper
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I am now imagining a scene where Sun used one such talisman, and Ling Qi calls for a time-out as she asks for the cost of one.
Then it devolved into a negotiation of paying Ling Qi a portion of the cost of the possible expenditure of resources, whether talisman or Qi restoratives, that Sun would have used and thus not being able to use on the subsequent fight.
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- The Temple of the Winds
Ling Qi would need ridiculous dice luck. like multiple back to back crits level of luck. It just isn't going to happen.
At most i could, maybe, see Ling Qi tie or eek a win over a looong fight with CRX, since she seem a step below Sun/Meizhen in pure strength, but that's already the very most i could see actually happen.
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- Brazil
Really, funny ratings?
Looking at the numbers we see when we clash, Ling Qi is roughly onpar with them.
All we need to get rid of is this crippling sense of worthlessness you guys are sporting.
Looking at the numbers we see when we clash, Ling Qi is roughly onpar with them.
All we need to get rid of is this crippling sense of worthlessness you guys are sporting.
We already had this discussion.
We litterally can't even hit meizhen in a fight. We can't take any of the monsters unless they cripple themselves.
What we can do is be an annoying speedbump and with some luck forcing them to use valuable consummables.
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- The Temple of the Winds
We have exactly one exemple of dice against a monster, Sun, and that was when she was using a subpar Art setup.
If you look at what is actually important: the narrative, it becomes clear that both Meizhen and CRX and significantly stronger than Ling Qi whenever they spar. At most Ling Qi will manage to make them work for their ineluctable victory, which while an achievement in and of itself, is quite far from a victory over them.
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- Brazil
Eh, it sits ill with me to just accept it instead of trying, when I do believe we have a decent chance of victory.
Of course, certain build decisions aren't the greatest IMO, which makes me hesitate.
But I highly doubt they can just go "lol money wins" in the competition. Of course people will use consumables and such, but it's supposed to measure skill, not wealth.
It's Xianxia. Being born rich is just as much of a skill as knowing how to spear people.
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- Brazil
And fortunately, the world is sane.
So a contest measuring skill will still pride itself in that. Much like they won't seed the clear top contenders in the same brackets as to create drama and consequently letting subpar contestants in.
I'm annoyed at this quitters talk of "we will get completely stomped lol". We are certainly within striking distance, and in rocket tag, that's what really matters. While we need luck to carry the day, we always need it to win anyway.
At the very least I want to place 4th, assuming the hidden dragons and crouching tigers of the previous years aren't über. I would hope to place 3rd, defeating CRX if at all possible.
But I don't think making it to the finals is impossible.
No we are not. Far from it even.
The dices of Sun were 1) before the rework 2) with a tracking build 3) what she had a few week ago.
Mayne in one or two week we will be able to take in a fight the Sun of ten week ago. It won't help us in a fight against her as she is now.
DeAnno
Sometimes words have two meanings
The likely dynamics of the bracket fixing make it probably >50% that we will face Sun Liling in the round of 8 or before. That isn't to say all this quitter talk doesn't disgust me too. Honestly with the mechanics as overstressed as they are right now anything could happen in the tournament.
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- New Zealand
I would strongly suspect we would have to fight either Bai or Sun before we fought Cai. It's generally a poor decision to put a vassal in conflict with their liege lord.
Edit: I don't believe anyone actually thinks we don't have *any* chance against the Monsters. But simply speaking, it will likely require a fair amount of luck for us to beat one of them.
Edit: I don't believe anyone actually thinks we don't have *any* chance against the Monsters. But simply speaking, it will likely require a fair amount of luck for us to beat one of them.
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So when Ling Qi went to the mountain the first two lessons were on spiritual cultivation and physical. During the physical portion Cultivators basically kept working out until they broke through and learned various techniques to stress their bodies.
At some point they started sparring.
We're they at any point instructed in martial arts forms?
I've been wondering this because I can't seem to recall if Ling Qi was ever taught proper martial arts or she just picked it up during the early story sparring.
At some point they started sparring.
We're they at any point instructed in martial arts forms?
I've been wondering this because I can't seem to recall if Ling Qi was ever taught proper martial arts or she just picked it up during the early story sparring.
Motile Mollusc
Bitten by a radioactive were-tilde
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- Here
Fan Yu will take first place in the tournament.
LanLan still won't care about him.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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That's a no for me as well honestly since narratively all of the Monsters have been our guidepost pulling us this far. So narratively and mechanically it says we will have no significant chance to actually beat them.
The wording is also important here because if we get lucky, more so than we have been and the Monster in question would need to have atrocious luck we might eek out a win. We, as we are, should provide a challenge to Them and make them use one time items. What you think of that is an individual thing. We should also be able to last more than three rounds given our defense. The rest I won't speculate on.
We are ABSOLUTELY going to try! I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise.
We are just going to fail anyways.
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- United Kingdom
We started learning the Unarmed mastery after Week 5 when we were in Zhou's advanced class, and at various points during the quest it's been noted that we're using the forms of either Argent Current (when we had the talk/fight with Meizhen at the Black Pool) or Storm (during the first sparring session with Cai).
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- The Temple of the Winds
Thing is the Tournament doesn't measures skill. Heck, it doesn't even measures growth speed, hence Talent, which one would expect of a school. It measures Strength.
The Tournament, beyond the internal disciples promotion thingy, is the occasion for the Sect to say "look at this, this is how strong our best Outer Sect Disciples are" to everyone else. Both enemy factions to intimidate them, or allied faction as a way to show how useful the Sect can be.
I expect an other for of showcase for Inner and Core Disciples (and Elders?) to basically do the same.
The Sect needs it's Inner Disciples to be <this strong> so they can to <this difficult> missions.
Remember, the Sect is not a school that stays aflot though students entry tuition costs. It's a Faction and the Disciples(/Elders?) are it's work force.
It's not quiter talk, it's realistic talk.
Being realistic is what separates the fools that will bang their head against a rock and hope the rock break instead of their head, and normal people that realize it's better to simply bypass said rock.
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I would say we have a puncher's chance if the bracket falls out exactly our way. In particular we would need to fight CRX in the semi-final while Meizhen and Liling fight in the other semi.
With how lightly CRX is taking the tournament I think we can get to a 50-50 matchup against her. She isn't making any particular effort to peak at week 52 and possibly wouldn't even pull out the final form of her dress in a tournament fight if she's already made top four.
We would then need Meizhen and Liling to beat the absolute shit out of each other. If the winner of that fight has used all of her one use items and also used a big chunk of her qi then we'd have a shot against them. Of course, this assumes we come out of the fight with CRX relatively unscathed.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Narratively, There is at least four different factors I can think of offhand where we are significantly disadvantaged compared to the monsters. Art Quality, Art Stage (E.G the cultivation level the arts are at), Ressources and Build Coherency. The main advantage Ling Qi arguably has is her build's rarity and her amount of arts/meridians, but the latter doesn't work against Meizhen/CRX because white room.
We can expect all of Liling/Meizhen/CRX's art to be at least at SCS/FVM level of quality if not better. While our other arts are not usually particularly of low quality (especially AE/TRF/PLR) they are either too low levels or not quite there yet.
Liling was Bronze 2 week 32. Meizhen probably was Spiritual 2 around then too. CRX lags a bit behind, but should have gotten to Spiritual 2 a while ago. This means that while our best arts are going to be capped at early green/early bronze level, Liling/Meizhen/CRX are going to have SCS7/FVM7/PLR3/TRF6/AE5 etc equivalents. This is also an extremely hard to overcome hurdle.
The monsters are going to have all of their gears being beyond their level of cultivation... and are likely to have 2 third realm spirit beast each if they can afford to Qi-wise. We know after all that Meizhen is doing so. Ling Qi is unlikely (so far) of getting one, let alone two 3rd grade spirit beast.
Meizhen, Liling and CRX all have had build coherency they have been going for since before they came to the sect. They might have changed their mind some on the details, but they have a definite fighting style that all their arts enhance. We currently do not have that.
Any of those factors would make for the monsters being able to beat us with strong regularity. All four is basically game over.