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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
Black Noise
Curious
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- About 1AU from Sol
Even at the best dice possible we'd have what, 34 dice, more realistically 31?
We've seen Liling rolling near 30 dice, and her spirit actually rolling 30 dice, but going by your estimate of 24, we're looking at a 70-80% chance to actually get stealth. Less if both cultivator and spirit beast get a roll, or if we're up against someone with a phys auto on us.
if we pick up a stealth art, then yeah Night's Edge will win us a lot of fights. I like the support aesthetic more though. For high damage output I'd prefer to compose a Cai-inspired "Summon giant laser" music art.
That's not really on the table for a long time, though.
The issue is writing a Cai-inspired song.
Not one inspired by Shenhua's shadow.
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you should play cube!
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I dunno a hungry darkness beam sounds like it'd be fun.
It'd be like a black hole in beam form.
Moon laser~I dunno a hungry darkness beam sounds like it'd be fun.
It'd be like a black hole in beam form.
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Prismatic BEAAAAAAAAAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
BWOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!
Moon power!
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
[X] Night's Edge
Motile Mollusc
Bitten by a radioactive were-tilde
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- Here
[X] Tailor's Regret
[X] Night Blooming Lotus Blade
[X] Night's Edge
[X] Night Blooming Lotus Blade
[X] Night's Edge
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- They/It
Hm...
[X] Singing Mist Blade
[X] Tailor's Regret
[X]Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
Picking these is tough!
[X] Singing Mist Blade
[X] Tailor's Regret
[X]Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
Picking these is tough!
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- Staring into the void
[X] Real Bat
[X] Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
[X] Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
What I really wish one of these weapons had is a scaling damage bonus. We ourselves can already stack up to 7 armor and 4 perfect defense (4 gown, +1 TRF, +2 HRA, +2 Perfect HRA, +1 perfect Formless Shade, +1 perfect OwS). We can straight up ignore any attack that doesn't pump out a minimum of 12 damage+AP, not counting our ablative health boxes. Our armor is above average for our current level but this sword is going to have to last us into Cyan, and armor values are only going to continue to climb from here. Our buffs are good at providing dice advantage but not as good at damage adders, even if they affected flying swords.
AoE is great for mooks but we're already queen of mook crushing. If we want the weapon itself to remain relevant we need something a with a high enough damage cap. Otherwise we're just picking up an excessively expensive music talisman when we could get five dice for FVM for much cheaper from a regular talisman.
AoE is great for mooks but we're already queen of mook crushing. If we want the weapon itself to remain relevant we need something a with a high enough damage cap. Otherwise we're just picking up an excessively expensive music talisman when we could get five dice for FVM for much cheaper from a regular talisman.
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Well it depends what you mean by Shenhua's shadow. With a broad interpretation of what that means, I think Cai is wholly within it - though I don't at all mean that her personality or will is subsumed or that she's not shaped by her experiences like everyone else. But Shenhua has dictated her circumstances and means for the entirety of her life, and so it is purely a matter of degree as to what is 'within' or 'without' Shenhua's shadow with regards to Cai. Unless you want to argue that Ling Qi or Bai Meizhen have influenced her in some manner outside Shenhua's predictions for Outer Sect life influence, which does seem to be a valid position that's consistent with, as you say, there being an issue in filling out a whole song.
Ultimately, I don't think it's necessary to reject those parts of Cai that are merely influenced by Shenhua's manipulation of her circumstances rather than dictated by spiritual mutilation and I further think that those parts form a substantial part of who Cai is. I think there is plenty of meat in that part of her life to inspire a song - though I think the author and audience would have to have an appreciation for the stuff like ceremony, tea, order, and swordsmanship that Cai favors and I think there are cultural problems there as I rather doubt there are many aristocrats here.
Yes, that's largely my point.
For Cai to begin taking her own steps out of Shenhua's shadow, and the crystallization of that would be found in said song.
You are thinking of the Singing Mist Blade as if it is a health-takedown weapon as opposed to a qi-takedown weapon.
The point of this blade is to enable our ability to disable our opponents and drain them of qi. It doesn't need to ever deal a single point of Health damage to do that.
To start, we get +5 to our ability to music our enemies to death with FVM and FSS. On top of that, this domain weapon's -debuff stacks are applied on HIT, not on DAMAGE, so it doesn't matter if our enemy has an excessive amount of armor or perfect defense; they still get affected.
Finally, once we've got three debuffs stacked, this starts draining 6qi/turn unless the opponent passes a (hard) Resolve check. This puts the enemy on a timer even if they try to conserve Qi.
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[X] Night's Edge
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- USA
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[X] Singing Mist Blade
I'm narrowing my vote down to just this. I think we're best off having this domain weapon support our core strategy and we don't have Arts available for the assassination build that Night's Edge would be useful for. Further, a specialized weapon like this can better remain useful into Cyan than a pure damage choice since we can later spend more on a physical single target sword without invalidating this one.
It should also be a truly excellent weapon for showing how our build does against squads of weaker cultivators in the first stage of the tournament.
I'm narrowing my vote down to just this. I think we're best off having this domain weapon support our core strategy and we don't have Arts available for the assassination build that Night's Edge would be useful for. Further, a specialized weapon like this can better remain useful into Cyan than a pure damage choice since we can later spend more on a physical single target sword without invalidating this one.
It should also be a truly excellent weapon for showing how our build does against squads of weaker cultivators in the first stage of the tournament.
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After a bit of thought, I'm pretty sure the the Expression-based Domain Weapons have a boost from their compatibility with our Domain as it currently stands. This makes sense since they're, obviously, Domain weapons. It also means that we can comfortably vote our conscience in terms of theme or style, since any choice can grow to equal strength with the others as we continue to develop. Essentially, these stats aren't how strong the weapon is, they're how strong the weapon is in Ling Qi's hand at the moment.
Plus, we're on our way to ditch the firmer combat mechanics anyway.
Plus, we're on our way to ditch the firmer combat mechanics anyway.
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- Location
- Yes
[x] Tailor's Regret
[x] Real Bat
[x] Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
[x] Real Bat
[x] Sharp Note/Yue Shi(to be decided if selected)
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Additionally our Expression is uncapped, so those will grow larger until our Stealth also uncaps, and will likely maintain a head start later down the line unless something weird happens.
