Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Since business hinges on the talk to Hitommy, it might be better put that a bit differently. Rereading that chapter it looks like while Haruka has shown some interest in the subject, we don't know if her business interest is any more than passing: She really didn't go into it in any detail beyond asking if such things existed. Plus it strikes me as kinda crass and a bit overconfident to make promises based on an unfinished negotiation.
Also added a relevant note to the talk with Yuki and filling her in.
[X] Reassure, briefly explain about O&K.
-[x] Mid-late-stage 'aggressive befriending'. Oriko's dealt with her demons and you're helping her finish recovering, but you don't blame Sayaka for her reservations.
-[x] She and her (totally devoted) GF are still on probation.
-[X] Ask if we've covered what Yuki needs to know. Let her ask questions.
[X] Rin and Sakura
-[X] Ask about interest in muggle business; You're planning to broach your own schemes to a contact of yours and you'd be happy to provide a foot in the door for them too.
-[X] Thanks again before they leave.
[X] Yuki.
-[x] Ask her to please give feedback if she has any. The forest doesn't matter if you forget about the trees, and she's an expert on some things you're bad at.
-[x] Schedule list-sharing.
[X] Kures.
-[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
-[X] Good job today.
-[X] Ask Oriko if you can/should finish removing the graffiti.
EDIT: removed note of Homura's feelings from vote.
Also added a relevant note to the talk with Yuki and filling her in.
[X] Reassure, briefly explain about O&K.
-[x] Mid-late-stage 'aggressive befriending'. Oriko's dealt with her demons and you're helping her finish recovering, but you don't blame Sayaka for her reservations.
-[x] She and her (totally devoted) GF are still on probation.
-[X] Ask if we've covered what Yuki needs to know. Let her ask questions.
[X] Rin and Sakura
-[X] Ask about interest in muggle business; You're planning to broach your own schemes to a contact of yours and you'd be happy to provide a foot in the door for them too.
-[X] Thanks again before they leave.
[X] Yuki.
-[x] Ask her to please give feedback if she has any. The forest doesn't matter if you forget about the trees, and she's an expert on some things you're bad at.
-[x] Schedule list-sharing.
[X] Kures.
-[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
-[X] Good job today.
-[X] Ask Oriko if you can/should finish removing the graffiti.
EDIT: removed note of Homura's feelings from vote.
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mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
[x] The Phoenixian
Good point about the business talk thing. This seems like it covers most of the things- assuming we'd break to voting instead of Brinapilot if anything unexpected turns up during the remainder of this business transaction. Er. And assuming Sabrina doesn't necessarily just address our vote in order, but rather, in whatever order best fits the way the interaction is going? I'm on the fence about how much we can rely on that bit, sometimes, although I may just be overcautious.
(Also, at some point in the future, I still rather want to be able to use the "Ours is a friendship that cost us an arm and a leg. Respectively." line or some variation of it, when we're in a good context to do so.)
Ah- do we have anything we're planning to say to Airi when we see her off, since it looks like we're assuming this vote will take us up to or nearly up to the end of this exchange? Or, it might not- but then do we have anything in mind for the vote that does?
Also, re, scheduling the list-sharing, do we have any meta-concerns that we want to make sure Sabrina keeps in mind with the timing of that appointment? How does this work, I don't believe I've been here yet for a vote on scheduling- if we don't double-book ourselves by vote, are we allowed to assume that Sabrina won't double-book herself on Brinapilot, where double-booking is defined by whatever we've got down on the dayplanner? When we reach the scheduling bit of talk, does that usually mean a break to vote if we haven't addressed it in the vote that led up to that bit of the conversation?
... definitely still forgetting something, aside from more attempts at a signature, which I'll get to eventually... meh.
Good point about the business talk thing. This seems like it covers most of the things- assuming we'd break to voting instead of Brinapilot if anything unexpected turns up during the remainder of this business transaction. Er. And assuming Sabrina doesn't necessarily just address our vote in order, but rather, in whatever order best fits the way the interaction is going? I'm on the fence about how much we can rely on that bit, sometimes, although I may just be overcautious.
(Also, at some point in the future, I still rather want to be able to use the "Ours is a friendship that cost us an arm and a leg. Respectively." line or some variation of it, when we're in a good context to do so.)
Ah- do we have anything we're planning to say to Airi when we see her off, since it looks like we're assuming this vote will take us up to or nearly up to the end of this exchange? Or, it might not- but then do we have anything in mind for the vote that does?
Also, re, scheduling the list-sharing, do we have any meta-concerns that we want to make sure Sabrina keeps in mind with the timing of that appointment? How does this work, I don't believe I've been here yet for a vote on scheduling- if we don't double-book ourselves by vote, are we allowed to assume that Sabrina won't double-book herself on Brinapilot, where double-booking is defined by whatever we've got down on the dayplanner? When we reach the scheduling bit of talk, does that usually mean a break to vote if we haven't addressed it in the vote that led up to that bit of the conversation?
... definitely still forgetting something, aside from more attempts at a signature, which I'll get to eventually... meh.
- Location
- america
i can accept this as our theme
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
[x] The Phoenixian
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Do we have any direction for Brina pilot on answering those question?
Script Mak3r
(Verified Sun God) (Verified Feathers)
- Location
- Hell of Blazing Fires
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Here's my suggestion. Would probably also fit Madokami. Like mother like daughter?
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Personally, my opinion on the matter is that the only thing to avoid is the matter of Homura and other absolute secrets. On the basis of "She's our ally, keep her properly informed." Is there other stuff in particular you would prefer to avoid?
...On which note I get the feeling that the vote suggestion was there for a reason and so we should prooooobably edit the vote to cut out the talk on Homura's feelings. Yuki strikes me as reasonably perceptive after all and talking about Homura's feelings RE: Oriko could lead her putting two and two together. Or at least Homura is within her rights to worry about that sort of thing.
*Makes a quick and dirty edit to the above vote*
- Location
- USA, Midworld world line
[X] The Phoenixian
[X] reassure Anri.
It does become important to remember our principles. We don't want to become a monster. If we take someone prisoner, it isn't about the power we used, it is about the burden we accept.
"Lean On Me" is pretty darn close to the mark. We also need something uptempo! Maybe with a bit of inner turmoil?
Sorry, got myself pre-empted for a bit!
Enchanting practice... do we want to try for a tripwire that has a visual indicator? Or do we want to have Mami insert her ribbons into our passive grief constructs? She can handle Grief without our concentration, and outside our radius until released? Can we make gems together that are different from what we could make alone?
Mami's solo task might be ducted fans to go with her wings? Getting her more mobility is wise?
Sabrina might try to make progress on magic without Grief, perhaps as a way to understand what she saw in Yuki's building?
Or try to make Grief items for Sayaka to copy. I would like her to try for a "willpower training device."
[X] reassure Anri.
It does become important to remember our principles. We don't want to become a monster. If we take someone prisoner, it isn't about the power we used, it is about the burden we accept.
"Lean On Me" is pretty darn close to the mark. We also need something uptempo! Maybe with a bit of inner turmoil?
Sorry, got myself pre-empted for a bit!
Enchanting practice... do we want to try for a tripwire that has a visual indicator? Or do we want to have Mami insert her ribbons into our passive grief constructs? She can handle Grief without our concentration, and outside our radius until released? Can we make gems together that are different from what we could make alone?
Mami's solo task might be ducted fans to go with her wings? Getting her more mobility is wise?
Sabrina might try to make progress on magic without Grief, perhaps as a way to understand what she saw in Yuki's building?
Or try to make Grief items for Sayaka to copy. I would like her to try for a "willpower training device."
OOooo! Very SciFi!! I presume being "bred to adapt and labor in any environment" figures in there somewhere.
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BlackoutSampler
So Easily Forgotten
Normally I'd be annoyed at you bringing up Homestuck outside of it's containment zone, but I actually like Heir of Grief so I'll let it slide this time. The marching hard rock tone of that song is pretty sweet. If we ever have a more dramatic fight it'd make for some nice BGM.
Honestly, I have a tough time attributing a single theme to Sabrina. Not due to any complexity on her part, but for how hard it is to take such a theme seriously. Anything that conveys her dorky optimist nature doesn't feel serious enough to show how much she means it. If there was something, I would expect it to be arranged somewhat like Bonetrousle, where part one is entirely silly, and part two adds to the main tune to give that sillyness a bit of edge.
Still, here's something that's I feel fits pretty well, It's name even fits! Velocity Wings
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I don't know if this is what you're referring to, but since I'm thinking about it anyway...
If you're referring to this:
My read is that it's really:
-- [] In detail.
And the rest is there just to avoid confusion. Of course Sabrina's gonna be careful and keep Homura's personal stuff secret, but you know, someone's gonna read 'Explain in detail' and go 'but exclude Homura's personal secret stuff'.
I think Firn's just putting it there to skip that step. Just like:
The '(barring gem shots)' doesn't need to be there (and I would omit it while votecrafting). It's just to make sure nobody misunderstands and thinks we're going to try to kill Yuki for some reason.
To the White Forest pt. 11
"They're the Kures. Mid-to-late-stage aggressive befriending," you tell Yuki. You spend a moment considering how much more to tell Yuki, but she's definitely noticed something's up with them. Probably a combination of factors, if you have to guess, starting from Homura and Sayaka's reactions, to the fact that they're here.
"Former enemies being rehabilitated?" Yuki says, watching as Oriko excuses herself and walks to the kitchen.
"Yep, though... honestly, more misguided than really enemies," you say. "I'm... helping Oriko with her demons, and she's mostly over them, but Homura and Sayaka still have their reservations. Entirely understandable, and I don't blame them for it, and in any case, it's ongoing."
"Magnanimous in victory," Yuki muses. "Do you expect to do the same with the prisoner you're remanding to us?"
"If at all possible, yeah," you agree. "But she needs time to calm down, first."
Oriko returns with a tray bearing a steaming pot and cups for everyone, setting it down and pouring tea for everyone with an easy, practiced grace. You and Mami and Kirika and Yuki and Rin and Sakura too, the latter of whom gives the cup a suspicious look before sipping.
"Understood," Yuki says. "The... Kures?"
"They might as well be married," you say with an amused lilt to your mental voice. "But yes - still on probation. I consider them friends... well, a friendship that cost an arm and a leg. My leg, Oriko's arm. And most of her neck."
There's a faintly startled silence, Yuki freezing in place.
"We got better?" you offer. "I mean, we're magical girls."
"I see," Yuki says, falling silent to consider this. "Thank you, Miss Oriko. This is excellent tea."
Oriko gives you a sharp look.
"It is," Mami agrees, smiling.
"Mmmhm!" you agree, raising the cup slightly in salute, smirking at her. "Thanks, Oriko."
"You are very welcome," Oriko says, inclining her head.
Mami cuddles up against you, and you all fall silent for a moment but for quiet sipping of tea and the clanking of steel as Kirika thumbs through the chain links.
"By the way, Rin?" you say. The blonde looks up, eyebrows arching in curiosity. "Have you ever considered going into... well, earning money? Or earning money? I've got a... contact, friend's mother, who recently rediscovered magical girls and has Ideas."
"It's not so easy," Rin says, with a sigh. "That said... what do you mean?"
You snort, and grin. "The first thing she wondered, when she found out that we were magical girls, was whether there were magical girls in business," you say. "Right, Mami?"
"'Though I suspect savvy magical girls could make a killing out there'," Mami quotes, sounding faintly amused. "She is likely correct. As a healer, as a teleporter, you could earn enormous amounts of money with the appropriate intermediary, Miss Mori, Miss Tachibana."
"Yeah, and that leaves everyone else out," Sakura snaps.
"Forcefields and gravity?" you muse. "Sounds perfect for rescue work, or physics work, or manufacturing. Look, I'm not gonna say it's something you must do, I'm just... offering an option, I guess?"
"It's appreciated, Miss Sabrina," Rin says with a nod.
"I want to help," you say simply, and leave it at that.
The conversation lapses after that, and you take the opportunity to cuddle Mami closer. Yuki's eyes flick around the room, assessing and curious as she soaks in every aspect. Rin and Sakura...
You know, you're not really sure whether they're together or not? You think they might be - certainly Sakura seems exceptionally protective of the healer, and certainly they're sitting pretty close together, but you're just not sure. You could ask, but Sakura would probably bite your head off. And you're not even sure whether that would be just metaphorical, either.
"Miss Tsuruya?" you murmur telepathically. "May I ask a favour?"
"What is it?" she responds, sipping her tea.
"Well... if I'm making any obvious mistakes, can you point them out to me?" you ask. "Forest doesn't matter if I miss the trees, and all that - and you're better at some things I'm bad at. So please, if you have any feedback, I'd seriously appreciate it."
"Your style is entirely too different from mine to give any specific advice," Yuki says simply. "I would advice you to hedge, to mislead and negotiate hardball, to conceal your greatest strengths, but you are simply so open that the only real recourse for you is to be honest and allow that to speak for you. It's not an approach that will work with everyone, and it's not the approach that would work for most of the people on this planet, but you seem to be doing something right."
"Huh," you say. "Well... that's reasonable, yeah. But still, if I'm doing something obviously wrong?"
"Certainly," Yuki says. "But there is nothing that sticks out to me right now."
The conversation lapses once again, Mami seeming to notice and snuggle closer to you, tucking her head against your shoulder.
"Done!" Kirika chirps happily, holding up the lengths of steel chain. "Catch!"
She lobs them at Yuki, who catches them one handed without even spilling a single drop of tea. The chains clink and wrap around her fist, heavy and greasy with the feel of antimagic.
"Kirika," Oriko chides gently, smiling to take the sting out of it.
"What? I did good, right?" Kirika pouts.
"Yes, dear, but you don't just throw them at someone," Oriko says, patting Kirika's shoulder.
"Nevertheless, thank you very much, Miss Kirika," Yuki says, nodding. "I will put these to good use."
Oriko nudges Kirika.
"Eh? Oh, uh... yes, you're welcome, Miss Tsuruya!" Kirika says, beaming.
You really need to do something nice for Oriko and Kirika. At this point, you're pretty sure they're actually on your side now, and... you really should try and ease the restrictions on them, if only to let them go shopping and such. You can't help but remember how pleased they were to go out, in Asunaro.
If nothing else, you're pretty sure they'll need groceries again soon. It'd be better if they could buy it for themselves.
"Miss Sabrina, Miss Tomoe, Miss Oriko," Yuki says. "If there's nothing else, I should be returning to Fukushima now, along with your prisoner, of course."
"Nothing much from me," you say. "Mami? Oriko?"
Mami shakes her head, smiling gently, and Oriko answers in the negative. And so you all stand, Oriko leading the way to another room, where you can sense Anri.
It's as opulently furnished as any other room in the Mikuni mansion, of course. A study, judging from the massive table and bookshelves dominating the room, and Airi's curled up sullenly on the chair.
Stark yellow eyes flicker open as Oriko pulls the door open, fixing on you.
"You," she hisses.
[] Airi
- [] Apologise
- [] Explain what you're doing
- [] Anything else to say to her?
[X] Vote in abeyance
- [] Modifications?
[] Now what?
- [] Enchantment practice
-- [] Just you, Mami, Homura, and Sayaka
-- [] With Madoka and Hitomi in addition
- [] Ask Homura and Sayaka for that discussion about Oriko and Kirika
-- [] Approach?
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)
So here's something: For acquaintances, you'd refer to them by "Surname-san", which I transliterate as "Miss/Mr Surname". Consider, then, what happens when you have two people of the same surname (relatives, spouses, etc). This isn't the first time you've seen it, either.
"Former enemies being rehabilitated?" Yuki says, watching as Oriko excuses herself and walks to the kitchen.
"Yep, though... honestly, more misguided than really enemies," you say. "I'm... helping Oriko with her demons, and she's mostly over them, but Homura and Sayaka still have their reservations. Entirely understandable, and I don't blame them for it, and in any case, it's ongoing."
"Magnanimous in victory," Yuki muses. "Do you expect to do the same with the prisoner you're remanding to us?"
"If at all possible, yeah," you agree. "But she needs time to calm down, first."
Oriko returns with a tray bearing a steaming pot and cups for everyone, setting it down and pouring tea for everyone with an easy, practiced grace. You and Mami and Kirika and Yuki and Rin and Sakura too, the latter of whom gives the cup a suspicious look before sipping.
"Understood," Yuki says. "The... Kures?"
"They might as well be married," you say with an amused lilt to your mental voice. "But yes - still on probation. I consider them friends... well, a friendship that cost an arm and a leg. My leg, Oriko's arm. And most of her neck."
There's a faintly startled silence, Yuki freezing in place.
"We got better?" you offer. "I mean, we're magical girls."
"I see," Yuki says, falling silent to consider this. "Thank you, Miss Oriko. This is excellent tea."
Oriko gives you a sharp look.
"It is," Mami agrees, smiling.
"Mmmhm!" you agree, raising the cup slightly in salute, smirking at her. "Thanks, Oriko."
"You are very welcome," Oriko says, inclining her head.
Mami cuddles up against you, and you all fall silent for a moment but for quiet sipping of tea and the clanking of steel as Kirika thumbs through the chain links.
"By the way, Rin?" you say. The blonde looks up, eyebrows arching in curiosity. "Have you ever considered going into... well, earning money? Or earning money? I've got a... contact, friend's mother, who recently rediscovered magical girls and has Ideas."
"It's not so easy," Rin says, with a sigh. "That said... what do you mean?"
You snort, and grin. "The first thing she wondered, when she found out that we were magical girls, was whether there were magical girls in business," you say. "Right, Mami?"
"'Though I suspect savvy magical girls could make a killing out there'," Mami quotes, sounding faintly amused. "She is likely correct. As a healer, as a teleporter, you could earn enormous amounts of money with the appropriate intermediary, Miss Mori, Miss Tachibana."
"Yeah, and that leaves everyone else out," Sakura snaps.
"Forcefields and gravity?" you muse. "Sounds perfect for rescue work, or physics work, or manufacturing. Look, I'm not gonna say it's something you must do, I'm just... offering an option, I guess?"
"It's appreciated, Miss Sabrina," Rin says with a nod.
"I want to help," you say simply, and leave it at that.
The conversation lapses after that, and you take the opportunity to cuddle Mami closer. Yuki's eyes flick around the room, assessing and curious as she soaks in every aspect. Rin and Sakura...
You know, you're not really sure whether they're together or not? You think they might be - certainly Sakura seems exceptionally protective of the healer, and certainly they're sitting pretty close together, but you're just not sure. You could ask, but Sakura would probably bite your head off. And you're not even sure whether that would be just metaphorical, either.
"Miss Tsuruya?" you murmur telepathically. "May I ask a favour?"
"What is it?" she responds, sipping her tea.
"Well... if I'm making any obvious mistakes, can you point them out to me?" you ask. "Forest doesn't matter if I miss the trees, and all that - and you're better at some things I'm bad at. So please, if you have any feedback, I'd seriously appreciate it."
"Your style is entirely too different from mine to give any specific advice," Yuki says simply. "I would advice you to hedge, to mislead and negotiate hardball, to conceal your greatest strengths, but you are simply so open that the only real recourse for you is to be honest and allow that to speak for you. It's not an approach that will work with everyone, and it's not the approach that would work for most of the people on this planet, but you seem to be doing something right."
"Huh," you say. "Well... that's reasonable, yeah. But still, if I'm doing something obviously wrong?"
"Certainly," Yuki says. "But there is nothing that sticks out to me right now."
The conversation lapses once again, Mami seeming to notice and snuggle closer to you, tucking her head against your shoulder.
"Done!" Kirika chirps happily, holding up the lengths of steel chain. "Catch!"
She lobs them at Yuki, who catches them one handed without even spilling a single drop of tea. The chains clink and wrap around her fist, heavy and greasy with the feel of antimagic.
"Kirika," Oriko chides gently, smiling to take the sting out of it.
"What? I did good, right?" Kirika pouts.
"Yes, dear, but you don't just throw them at someone," Oriko says, patting Kirika's shoulder.
"Nevertheless, thank you very much, Miss Kirika," Yuki says, nodding. "I will put these to good use."
Oriko nudges Kirika.
"Eh? Oh, uh... yes, you're welcome, Miss Tsuruya!" Kirika says, beaming.
You really need to do something nice for Oriko and Kirika. At this point, you're pretty sure they're actually on your side now, and... you really should try and ease the restrictions on them, if only to let them go shopping and such. You can't help but remember how pleased they were to go out, in Asunaro.
If nothing else, you're pretty sure they'll need groceries again soon. It'd be better if they could buy it for themselves.
"Miss Sabrina, Miss Tomoe, Miss Oriko," Yuki says. "If there's nothing else, I should be returning to Fukushima now, along with your prisoner, of course."
"Nothing much from me," you say. "Mami? Oriko?"
Mami shakes her head, smiling gently, and Oriko answers in the negative. And so you all stand, Oriko leading the way to another room, where you can sense Anri.
It's as opulently furnished as any other room in the Mikuni mansion, of course. A study, judging from the massive table and bookshelves dominating the room, and Airi's curled up sullenly on the chair.
Stark yellow eyes flicker open as Oriko pulls the door open, fixing on you.
"You," she hisses.
[] Airi
- [] Apologise
- [] Explain what you're doing
- [] Anything else to say to her?
[X] Vote in abeyance
- [] Modifications?
[] Now what?
- [] Enchantment practice
-- [] Just you, Mami, Homura, and Sayaka
-- [] With Madoka and Hitomi in addition
- [] Ask Homura and Sayaka for that discussion about Oriko and Kirika
-- [] Approach?
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)
[X] Rin and Sakura
-[X] Thanks again before they leave.
[X] Yuki.
-[x] Schedule list-sharing.
[X] Kures.
-[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
-[X] Good job today.
-[X] Ask Oriko if you can/should finish removing the graffiti.
-[X] Thanks again before they leave.
[X] Yuki.
-[x] Schedule list-sharing.
[X] Kures.
-[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
-[X] Good job today.
-[X] Ask Oriko if you can/should finish removing the graffiti.
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So here's something: For acquaintances, you'd refer to them by "Surname-san", which I transliterate as "Miss/Mr Surname". Consider, then, what happens when you have two people of the same surname (relatives, spouses, etc). This isn't the first time you've seen it, either.
That, and it's a useful upper bound to delineate what Sabrina could try.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
She turned me into a newt!
That's a very diplomatic way of calling us a terrible actor. She should debate with QB about it.
[x] "Me!"
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[Q] "FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!"
... I mean, I used to do the same thing, now that I think about it.
I know it's because of the 'Kures' thing, but this brings to mind...
And I somehow find this a little funny.
NOT EVEN DROP
Everybody remember that Oriko's idea of feeling pleased at something is denying it and expecting you to cajole her into it.
... I mean, I used to do the same thing, now that I think about it.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
[
] "It is indeed I, Her Imperial Majesty's Royal Queen-Consort Sabrina Vee."-[Q] That said, would you like some tea?
Edit: Huh, we have a new tag. "Proactive befriending", anyone?
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