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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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[X][COUNCIL] Sunrise 2322
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Fr'rba IV, 15 (25) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sarcissa Belt, 15 (25) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony HKP-426, 6pp, 7 (10) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request new Starbase I [Horizon Border Zone] 20pp
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Bajoran Diaspora) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Vermillions) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Gorn) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Muuyozoi (Outer Space Alliance)) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Licori) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Declare a Seyek Border Zone (Seyek-Cardassian Border), 20pp
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 60pp
Compared to the other plans this one goes for a research team and a new border zone at Seyek-Cardassian.
Updated the plan to add all of the research colonies.
 
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[X][COUNCIL] The Breen Scare Me
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request new Starbase I [Horizon Border Zone] 20pp
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Bajoran Diaspora) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Breen) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Gorn) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Muuyozoi (Outer Space Alliance)) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Licori) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Rear Admiral position to a Vice Admiral position. Pick one: 30pp for Personnel
  • Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1 Intel report for powers on that border. (Romulan Border Zone), 20pp
  • Support additional FDS Task Force attachments, 30pp
Took Briefvoice's plan, removed Lor'Vela to bank the pp (though I could always put in the Seyek BZ if people want that) and replaced Vermillions with the Breen.
 
Just noticed we are finishing 2320s Signal Intercepts next year so building new listenpost just before we get new tech for them might not be optimal.
2320s Signal Intercepts
Technology for looking into other people's messages, or stopping them from looking into yours.

48 / 60 Deci-Cochrane Band Antenna (Subspace Communications Intercepts III) (Projects to Increase Events in Zones available)
39 / 40 Listening Post I (Border Zone projects become available)
 
There's probably other unknown effects for the Argus Array, considering for example, the Cardassians used it to spy on Federation outposts in Parallels, and it could be utilized for other roles like espionage for example.

Like, look. Considering how big the project is in terms of costs, there are going to have to be unknown effects we don't know about from it that we are going to wind up getting it.
 
Briefvoice said:
[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice 2322
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
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Uh, I can't find the Pure Intent Array anywhere. I was gonna make a plan to bank some pp this year, but we might have a research colony missing from the list?
 
[X][COUNCIL] Mining Colonies, Diplo pushes and Argus Subspace Telescope.
 
Briefvoice said:
The cost... I couldn't quite make it fit this year with stuff that I definitely want to do. We'll get it eventually. Or rather, get it three times eventually as we have to buy one for each Theatre.



This is how crazy rumors get started. Again, no, there is absolutely no reason to believe that the Argus Array has anything to do with the Stargazer. Argus looks at its local theater, not other galaxies. Not a "big ticket to that".



It gives one Science reroll a year in 1/3 of our space.
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Right, okay, message received re: the Argus Array, several times over now.
Anywho.

[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice 2322
 
i see no need to build the argus if we can take pure intent array
those 100 points could be use else where
like maybe a new aux yard somewhere too help with those ships
 
Out of curiosity, is there anything we can do to get the Honiani to ratify and become a full member? They've been sitting at "Pending Ratification" for a while now, and it would give us additional resources to work with on the Horizon border.
 
[X][COUNCIL] Bank pp 2322
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Fr'rba IV, 15 (25) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sarcissa Belt, 15 (25) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony HKP-426, 6pp, 7 (10) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request new Starbase I [Horizon Border Zone] 20pp
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Bajoran Diaspora) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Vermillions) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Gorn) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Muuyozoi (Outer Space Alliance)) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Licori) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Rear Admiral position to a Vice Admiral position. Pick one: 30pp for Personnel
Total = 202pp, 54 pp banked

This plan cuts down on the extras to save pp for one of our bigger projects next snakepit. It also buys all the colonies currently avaliable, due to the annual +1 pp we gain from every colony. We still make Personel a Real Admiral position (finally) and build the Horizon Border Zone Starbase to continue to fufil our current ambition.
 
The Sandman said:
Out of curiosity, is there anything we can do to get the Honiani to ratify and become a full member? They've been sitting at "Pending Ratification" for a while now, and it would give us additional resources to work with on the Horizon border.
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I wouldn't call 2 years "a while". Especially not considering that ratifying them is like trying to integrate 3 normal affiliates at once.
 
Anime_Fan35 said:
I think we have a surplus right now so we don't really need the Academy Expansion right now IIRC.
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Crew is the hardest resource to get more of quickly - we really want to increase the supply as much as possible, even when we have a short-term surplus. Especially since we are planning to produce heavy cruisers in some number, and cruisers are relatively crew hungry.

If we can increase crew supply relative to our commitments by enough, we could even develop other varieties of cruiser, though that is very long term.

Specialist cruisers, for example, could be interesting.

fasquardon
 
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The Sandman said:
Out of curiosity, is there anything we can do to get the Honiani to ratify and become a full member? They've been sitting at "Pending Ratification" for a while now, and it would give us additional resources to work with on the Horizon border.
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Rumor (read: GMs on Discord) is that the Pacifists are dragging their feet because they want Federalization first, and because it won't favor their coalition politically.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Laudon: Amapach-X -> Indouban-D
Ollasa IV: Arsharra N'Gir-D -> Mrr'ash Nr'arr-H
Ferasa: P'Shirri-P -> Siraar Kor-M
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Laudon is a Rigel planet, which isn't up for re-election until next year. I think you mean Merafa there. Also, no idea who Amapach is as that name hasn't been mentioned in previous snakepit/election posts; the previous councilor for Merafa was Neraya Shrr'mr (Expansionist).
 
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MTB said:
Edit edit: And now I'm asking myself what exactly is 'funny' with my proposal?
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Do you remember us ever banking more then 20 PP?

There is a good reason for that.

If we bank them, we lose one year of benefits from whatever we would use on them for, and we earn enough of them to not need to save up even for something this expensive, so long as there isnt too much that we need done urgently, and we only buy neccesities.

I though you meant it as a joke and it made me laugh.
 
Briefvoice said:
[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice 2322
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request new Starbase I [Horizon Border Zone] 20pp
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You sure we can get all these built in one year? I'm pretty sure we had a cap based on the number of engineering teams we have.

This goes for all the other vote options as well that have more than 4 colonies on their list.
 
After lurking for quite some time, I think it's time to start contributing to the thread.

Pending discussion of my thoughts below, I vote:

[X][COUNCIL] Briefvoice 2322

Argus sounds cool and all, but we need to focus on our diplomatic game first and foremost. With the Horizon's P advantage on a single hull basis and our stated desire to make overtures to the Gorn we can't devote 40% of our PP to one lone line item with no immediate payoff and no clear relevance to our major challenges.

In fact, it may be worth it to devote resources to get a sixth diplopush. While that does mean we're effectively giving up an ongoing 20 PP in future years, consider how many pushes are actually free to be used - we basically have the Licori, OSA, the Gorn, and the Felis all competing for semi-mandatory diplopushes for probably the next few years. That leaves us little flexibility to adapt to new circumstances.

I propose the following plan for debate:

[NO VOTE][COUNCIL] Hard FDS Push
  • Request Mining Colony Sael II, 7pp 20 (35) sr/year, 4 turns
  • Request Mining Colony Sigma Delphi, 7pp 20 (30) br/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Pure Intent Array, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Ariya Minor, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request Research Colony Morgana-1321, 6pp, 5rp (8) rp/yr, 4 turns
  • Request new Starbase I [Horizon Border Zone] 20pp
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Bajoran Diaspora) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Vermillions) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Gorn) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Muuyozoi (Outer Space Alliance)) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Licori) [Can be taken up to five times]
  • Support additional resources for the Federation Diplomatic Service, 60pp (Cap of pushes increases by 1)
  • Support additional FDS Task Force attachments, 30pp
Total = 242pp

That leaves 14 banked for next year.
 
Briefvoice said:
I am not totally sure, but if we don't get them built this year then they are still "paid for" and will be built in future years without further pp expenditure.
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But if we get good options next year like SR colonies, ordering them on the 2323 snakepit will be delayed further as they go to the end of the backlog.

With your vote option, 2 items are rolled over to next year; but some of the vote options I'm seeing have 6 colonies, 1 starbase, plus other construction projects (pretty sure the Argus array will tie up one engineering team for 4 years).
 
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