Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

How are you planning to use Archery in the tournament that isn't redundant with our music capabilities? Unless/until you can answer that question, I'd rather pick up AS levels, for the passive bonuses to defense if nothing else.
How are you planning to use HC in the tournament that isn't objectively inferior to our archery? What's your action plan over, say, six rounds?
 
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Is it just me, or has update speed dropped considerably in these last few turns?
How are you planning to use Archery in the tournament that isn't redundant with our music capabilities? Unless/until you can answer that question, I'd rather pick up AS levels, for the passive bonuses to defense if nothing else.
How can our music capabilities do what our archery does?
 
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@Alectai Liling is not the heir iirc, but just the eldest of Shao's grandchildren.

@Appraisal: All the plans of mice and men...
No Liling is the heiress " Yeah Sun Shao is Liling's grandfather, though she is the heiress. None of Sun Shao's actual children are still alive at this point. ". Regardless of that fact she has cousins who're receiving a lesser amount of support, or rather they probably aren't given a blank check like she is as the heiress whose grandfather dots on.
 
Argent Mirror
AM5 - Head Meridian + 240 XP
Now, I may have a controversial opinion here, but I'm going to make the argument that we don't really want to get AM5 for the tournament, or at least it is a much lower priority than anything outside of the Argent Arts.

AM is our premier perception/spiritual defense art. It allows us to shrug off most anything spiritually offensive, and with our small incremental passives in spiritual defense from other arts, we have a solid counter technique that will significantly deter another attempt to ensnare us via spiritual means, upon their first failure.

That being said, I'm looking at the lineup that we will be trying to beat, and I'm not sure any of our peers actually use spiritual techniques.
  1. Ji Rong: He seems pure physical in what he is attempting to do
  2. Kang Zihao: Tanky taunt character. The taunt might be a spiritual attack, but since Meizhen, as a green, was caught by it, I'm leaning more towards automatic rather than clash based.
  3. Gan: He is pure physical, no two ways about it.
  4. Sun Liling: She might have a sneaky spiritual attack hidden somewhere, but I doubt it. From what we have seen, she is pure physical.
  5. Lady Cai: I have no idea as we haven't been in a spar or in a battle against her, but lasers seem more physical damage than spiritual damage. So, possibly?
  6. Meizhen: We know that she has spiritual attacks, and Meizhen is the person that I think AM will help the most against.
  7. Han Jian: Seems more physical. At least his "Strongest" attack we handled with TRF. "Strongest" as he is being downright sneaky with what he shows us at this point.
  8. Xiulan: Seems pretty physical damage based to me. Whips and lances of fire would be our main concern.
All in all, I can think of 1 solid person that AM will help against, and another strong possibility. However, both of those are the monsters and the monsters on our side. With the advancements that SCS will probably give us in the scope of defenses, as well as the incremental increases acquired through passives of AE and FSS's Spring Aria, I'm not sure what advantages 5th level of AM will give us for the cost of at least an action regarding the Head Meridian.
 
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Now, I may have a controversial opinion here, but I'm going to make the argument that we don't really want to get AM5 for the tournament, or at least it is a much lower priority than anything outside of the Argent Arts.

AM is our premier perception/spiritual defense art. It allows us to shrug off most anything spiritually offensive, and with our small incremental passives in spiritual defense from other arts, we have a solid counter technique that will significantly deter another attempt to ensnare us via spiritual means, upon their first failure.

That being said, I'm looking at the lineup that we will be trying to beat, and I'm not sure any of our peers actually use spiritual techniques.
  1. Ji Rong: He seems pure physical in what he is attempting to do
  2. Kang Zihao: Tanky taunt character. The taunt might be a spiritual attack, but since Meizhen, as a green, was caught by it, I'm leaning more towards automatic rather than clash based.
  3. Gan: He is pure physical, no two ways about it.
  4. Sun Liling: She might have a sneaky spiritual attack hidden somewhere, but I doubt it. From what we have seen, she is pure physical.
  5. Lady Cai: I have no idea as we haven't been in a spar or in a battle against her, but lasers seem more physical damage than spiritual damage. So, possibly?
  6. Meizhen: We know that she has spiritual attacks, and Meizhen is the person that I think AM will help the most against.
  7. Han Jian: Seems more physical. At least his "Strongest" attack we handled with TRF. "Strongest" as he is being downright sneaky with what he shows us at this point.
  8. Xiulan: Seems pretty physical damage based to me. Whips and lances of fire would be our main concern.
All in all, I can think of 1 solid person that AM will help against, and another strong possibility. However, both of those are the monsters and the monsters on our side. With the advancements that SCS will probably give us in the scope of defenses, as well as the incremental increases acquired through passives of AE and FSS's Spring Aria, I'm not sure what advantages 5th level of AM will give us for the cost of at least an action regarding the Head Meridian.
Honestly, this is a completely fair opinion. We would save enough actions to take a new art or do domain training, in addition to a meridian for that new art. AM is like 4-5 plus meridian. I agree that it's one of our best cuts.
 
It's a Head Meridian, and Head Meridians tend to be associated with sensory techniques--a good one that requires Green to learn strikes me as a good thing to have.
 
What's your action plan over, say, six rounds?
Hard to say. If I was fighting today, maybe something like to start:

Turn 1
[Action] Mist of the Vale
[Instant] Dissonance in the Night
[Response] <Context Dependent>

Turn 2
[Action] Springs End Aria
[Instant] Ten Ring Defense
[Response] <Context Dependent>

Turn 3
[Action] Crawling Horror
[Instant] Pressure Crack
[Response] Deepwood Vitality

Turn 4
[Action] Hoarfrost Caress
[Instant] <Context Dependent>
[Response] Thunderous Retort?

~~~~~~~

At this point, either keep focusing on defense to wear the enemy down while we keep our Qi regenerated via SEA + TRD and hitting back via TR, or or keep wearing at them with HC or SS, or summon more allies with Crawling Horror. Frankly, I'm not sure; our build is honestly all over the place when we don't have a team to support. That said, do note that we will have gained a level or more in each of mostly our arts by the time the tournament comes around - hopefully we will have more cohesive options, either in terms of gaining and supporting summons, or in terms of stacking debuffs on our enemies, or in terms of dealing blows directly to our opponent.




In the above, we could also try to finish up by hitting hard via FSA to finish up the battle quickly once their defenses are weakened. It is a viable capstone, and indeed one of the few things that our archery gives us is the ability to properly nuke things. If we don't see a nuke out of FSS or AC, I can see that being something we might want to pursue... eventually.
 
Now, I may have a controversial opinion here, but I'm going to make the argument that we don't really want to get AM5 for the tournament, or at least it is a much lower priority than anything outside of the Argent Arts.

AM is our premier perception/spiritual defense art. It allows us to shrug off most anything spiritually offensive, and with our small incremental passives in spiritual defense from other arts, we have a solid counter technique that will significantly deter another attempt to ensnare us via spiritual means, upon their first failure.

That being said, I'm looking at the lineup that we will be trying to beat, and I'm not sure any of our peers actually use spiritual techniques.
  1. Ji Rong: He seems pure physical in what he is attempting to do
  2. Kang Zihao: Tanky taunt character. The taunt might be a spiritual attack, but since Meizhen, as a green, was caught by it, I'm leaning more towards automatic rather than clash based.
  3. Gan: He is pure physical, no two ways about it.
  4. Sun Liling: She might have a sneaky spiritual attack hidden somewhere, but I doubt it. From what we have seen, she is pure physical.
  5. Lady Cai: I have no idea as we haven't been in a spar or in a battle against her, but lasers seem more physical damage than spiritual damage. So, possibly?
  6. Meizhen: We know that she has spiritual attacks, and Meizhen is the person that I think AM will help the most against.
  7. Han Jian: Seems more physical. At least his "Strongest" attack we handled with TRF. "Strongest" as he is being downright sneaky with what he shows us at this point.
  8. Xiulan: Seems pretty physical damage based to me. Whips and lances of fire would be our main concern.
All in all, I can think of 1 solid person that AM will help against, and another strong possibility. However, both of those are the monsters and the monsters on our side. With the advancements that SCS will probably give us in the scope of defenses, as well as the incremental increases acquired through passives of AE and FSS's Spring Aria, I'm not sure what advantages 5th level of AM will give us for the cost of at least an action regarding the Head Meridian.
Good points; well said.


I do have three arguments in favor of AM, however.

First, I think you are underselling Spiritual overall. It is easy for us to pin down people who use Physical, since it is flashy, but a lot of our opponents use Spiritual too. As you mentioned, Kang Zihao used a pretty heavy-duty taunt back in Thunderdome redux, so if anything we have reason to believe he leans Spiritual. Sun Liling is certainly physical-speced, but what we've seen of her spirit actually suggests Spiritual:
Things were growing more hectic as well, Sun Liling's voice snapped out something garbled in a language Ling Qi didn't understand, and bloody mist streamed from her back, solidifying into the tall and willowy form of a beautiful bronze skinned woman in… scant red silk scarves and nothing else, Ling Qi felt qi begin to exude from the the captivating form of the spirit and her mist shimmered, growing warm around the woman as flowers began to bloom at her feet, it was an oddly captivating scene…
Others may have spiritual attacks that we haven't seen as well.

Second, AM is not just a Spiritual Defense art - it is also a perception art. I expect a decent chance that our opponents will try more complex tactics in the tournament - something akin to what Li Suyin did in her own duel. A perception art increases our chance of spotting it.

Third, AM is about to break into Green, and hit completion there. I think that there is a good chance that it will grant us goodies, which makes me generally want to try for it.
 
I think Han Jian is like the melee non sneaky version of us where they buff up allies and have a couple hard hitting arts but I wouldn't be surprised if he had some spiritual attack as well.
 
I'd rather drop AC or AS than AM.
As i see it the only Arts that are more important to soft/hardcap than AM are (EPC,) FVM and SCS.
 
AC is ridiculously good for us, since it can be used with an auto from the flute. AS is less so but two levels costs only two actions. In comparison it's much harder to hit AM5. No significant bonuses or reductions, and it costs many successes.
 
we still haven't found out what the argent breakthrough bonus was or where argent art 4 was, now that we can't get them
 
Hard to say. If I was fighting today, maybe something like to start:

Turn 1
[Action] Mist of the Vale
[Instant] Dissonance in the Night
[Response] <Context Dependent>

Turn 2
[Action] Springs End Aria
[Instant] Ten Ring Defense
[Response] <Context Dependent>

Turn 3
[Action] Crawling Horror
[Instant] Pressure Crack
[Response] Deepwood Vitality

Turn 4
[Action] Hoarfrost Caress
[Instant] <Context Dependent>
[Response] Thunderous Retort?

~~~~~~~
Thanks. I'll enter it into my combat simulator spreadsheet as soon as it's finished and see how it performs. The worms will be a little difficult to handle though. I know they're slow but I'm not not sure how movement is handled, so I'm not sure how difficult it would be for an enemy to avoid them. How many worms do you want to summon? I presume you want to pay to insulate them from FVM?
 
On that note what do people think about putting the worms inside our Qi Cards, considering the main limitation of that technique is currently the cost?

Though we might want to wait until we've got AE 3 or 4.
That is a good idea, if it works. I want to use the highest level AE we can get, though, and we will have to check whether a Qi card would be potent enough to handle it. Oh, also whether a Qi card can store an effect with "kickers" (since we want to summon >1 worm).
 
That is a good idea, if it works. I want to use the highest level AE we can get, though, and we will have to check whether a Qi card would be potent enough to handle it. Oh, also whether a Qi card can store an effect with "kickers" (since we want to summon >1 worm).
Instead of "just" Qi cards we might want a dedicated AE weapon that has Qi card-like "slots" for minion summons. Hopefully a weapon that also empowers those minions somehow.
 
Now, I may have a controversial opinion here, but I'm going to make the argument that we don't really want to get AM5 for the tournament, or at least it is a much lower priority than anything outside of the Argent Arts.

AM is our premier perception/spiritual defense art. It allows us to shrug off most anything spiritually offensive, and with our small incremental passives in spiritual defense from other arts, we have a solid counter technique that will significantly deter another attempt to ensnare us via spiritual means, upon their first failure.

That being said, I'm looking at the lineup that we will be trying to beat, and I'm not sure any of our peers actually use spiritual techniques.
  1. Ji Rong: He seems pure physical in what he is attempting to do
  2. Kang Zihao: Tanky taunt character. The taunt might be a spiritual attack, but since Meizhen, as a green, was caught by it, I'm leaning more towards automatic rather than clash based.
  3. Gan: He is pure physical, no two ways about it.
  4. Sun Liling: She might have a sneaky spiritual attack hidden somewhere, but I doubt it. From what we have seen, she is pure physical.
  5. Lady Cai: I have no idea as we haven't been in a spar or in a battle against her, but lasers seem more physical damage than spiritual damage. So, possibly?
  6. Meizhen: We know that she has spiritual attacks, and Meizhen is the person that I think AM will help the most against.
  7. Han Jian: Seems more physical. At least his "Strongest" attack we handled with TRF. "Strongest" as he is being downright sneaky with what he shows us at this point.
  8. Xiulan: Seems pretty physical damage based to me. Whips and lances of fire would be our main concern.
All in all, I can think of 1 solid person that AM will help against, and another strong possibility. However, both of those are the monsters and the monsters on our side. With the advancements that SCS will probably give us in the scope of defenses, as well as the incremental increases acquired through passives of AE and FSS's Spring Aria, I'm not sure what advantages 5th level of AM will give us for the cost of at least an action regarding the Head Meridian.

Funnily enough, wouldn't WE be the ones who are causing everyone else to train AM (or an equivalent)? The idea that we might be causing the entire/some of the lineup to train in a technique which will only help against us is pretty cool.
 
Talent 6 + YSS 25 + Su Ling 2 + Starlit Meadow 5 + EPC 12 = 50 dice + 5 autos (moon 5).
8 2 3 6 1 5 5 4 4 5 5 7 8 9 6 10 2 10 4 1 5 4 5 2 3 6 2 7 2 8 7 10 9 9 7 1 4 1 4 9 5 9 5 4 9 3 6 1 2 9. 29 successes

Rerolling 4
9 2 7 3. 2 successes. 5 auto.36 total

128/200

1/5th of successes to Qi.

9/59

Ling Qi knew that it was unreasonable of her to be frustrated after a mere two weeks of failing to reach bronze. Many, many people failed to manage it entirely, and most took months at minimum for their own breakthroughs. Yet she could not help but be irritated by her own failures. At least she had made progress this time, some of the purified stellar qi actually settling properly into her bones and tissues, forcing out further impurities. Yet she had lost control of the densely packed qi and ended up covered in painful blotchy bruises from dozens of burst bloodvessels on top of being covered in a film of oily filth for her trouble.

For all the benefits, breaking through was a thoroughly unpleasant experience.

She was afraid her own frustration had caused her to go a little overboard though. Ling Qi studiously looked away from the scene playing out in front of her, idly toying with a strand of hair that had escaped her braid. It had been getting unruly again since she had left meditation.

In the training field, half a dozen boys in the lower second realm lay on the ground, pale and covered in frost. One lay curled up in a ball, eyes wide as he glanced around in a panic. She felt a little bad, but he had been starting to rally the others, so she had trapped him with her elegy to prevent the group from beating the exercise. Even now, the mists still lingered on the field, clinging at the hems of her gown, and her breath came with particles of sparkling ice.

"This concludes the initial exercise, men. Engrave in your minds the effect of being unable to resist an enemy spiritualist!" Gan Guangli stood beside her, looming above like a pillar of polished steel. His arms were crossed over the shining breastplate of his armor. "Now stand and thank Miss Ling for her efforts on your behalf!"

Ling Qi glanced up at him, and then away as she saw the honest grin directed down at her. The boys in the field stumbled to their feet, still shivering as the obeyed Gan, lining up to bow and offer a discipled and only slightly wobbly shout of gratitude directed at her. As awkward as it was, she managed to perform the proper bow in reply.

"Very good! You have one hour to meditate and cultivate upon what you have learned, drilling will resume then. Dismissed!" Gan Guangli's shout echoed over the field and his subordinates scattered. She didn't miss the way they avoided her gaze as they all but fled.

...Definitely overboard.

"I do apologize for the poor showing, but thank you for your help all the same," Guangli spoke again when they were well out of earshot, his normally shouting reduced to merely 'loud'.

"It was no trouble," Ling Qi replied, tucking her flute away . "After failing to break through for three days, I needed the exercise."

"Hah, truly, it is a troublesome thing, breaking into a new realm," Guangli said with a laugh. He himself was her opposite, having broken through finally to bronze, and lagging in the spiritual. "I hope my subordinates served well."

"They do need to work on their perceptive arts," Ling Qi admitted, reluctant to criticize others. "Only half of them really resisted much at all."

"And I will see that they are rewarded for that," Guangli applied agreeably. Ling Qi blinked as he tossed her a small metal canteen, she caught it of course, and raised an eyebrow in question. "Playing for so long is thirsty work," he said in reply to her unasked question. "My preferred mineral water encourages the quick recovery of ones qi as well. It is the least I can do."

"Ah, thank you," Ling Qi replied, a little nonplussed. She unscrewed the cap and took a sip, she might distrust it from another source, but Gan Guangli wasn't the type to spike a drink with something. The water had a crisp taste too it, cleansing the last of the sour flavor left over from her failed breakthrough, and she did feel her somewhat depleted qi begin to cycle more smoothly. "Can I ask why you're still doing this though? The open fighting is done, and Princess Sun's allies are all more focused on physical things."

He caught the canteen as she tossed it back. "It is my duty as Lady Cai's right hand to not only be a great warrior in my own right, but to be a leader as well," he replied gravely. "And to be honest, the lack of disciple and coordination among them irritates me greatly."

Ling Qi let out a quiet laugh. "I suppose you were marching in good order from the moment you could walk?"

"Very nearly," he responded, entirely straight faced, but with a hint of humor, he turned, giving her a questioning look as he headed toward the exit of the training field. She fell in beside him easily enough, it was a warm day and good for a stroll.

"You didn't answer the second half though," Ling Qi pointed out.

"A lack of defense against spiritual arts is common among lower realms," he replied, clasping his gauntleted hands behind his back as they walked. With combat over, he had gradually shrunk, reaching his normal height, where he stood only a head taller than her. "Such arts are not as common, nor as enticing to new cultivators as more offensive arts."

"I suppose," LIng Qi said, thinking of Argent Mirror, she supposed it was a fairly rare sort at least in the outer sect. "Why is that though?"

"It is a matter of resource," he replied bluntly. It was still a little strange to hear the over the top boy speak seriously. "Even cultivators who can reach the third realm in their lifetime may only use so many arts in tandem, those like you and I, or Lady Cai and MIss Bai are exceptions, not the norm, the matter is even worse among common cultivators, for whom the resources to open more than perhaps a ten meridians in their lifetime is a dream."

"That seems like a pretty obvious gap in ability though," Ling Qi mused. "Doesn't that mean the empires common soldiers are really vulnerable to spiritual attacks?"

"They are, and spirits of that sort can become a long running plague on the regions they inhabit," he answered with a frown. Ling Qi's thoughts turned to Su Ling's background, the girl didn't often talk about it, but she knew that she deeply resented her 'mother', more deeply than one would resent a dead person. "Some landholders choose to invest more in their soldiers,but most are content if they can repel assaults from the more common sort of beasts. It is shameful, and a thing for which I admire the Sects. They train and equip their forces with proper regularity and discipline!"

His voice rose toward the end, taking on his more typically passionate mode of speech. "Well, I'm sure you won't let this provinces forces be lax," she said lightly.

"One day all of Emerald Seas will have soldiers as well drilled as the Cloud Peak Guard of Cai! I swear that on my honor," he took her comment seriously it seems, he had stopped, raising a clenched fist to the sky as he spoke.

"You know, your really good at switching that on and off," Ling Qi replied, eyeing him shrewdly as they resumed walking.

"A man should be open and passionate," Guangli said with a wide grin. "So that his followers may be inspired, but I know that there are times for solemnity."

Ling Qi shook her head. "I think you just like shouting," she said, smiling a bit.

"You have discovered my secret Miss Ling. I must ask that you hold it close to your heart," the taller boy replied with utmost seriousness.

"I'll think about it," she shot back. "Lets pick up the pace a little though. I'll get us something to eat before we have to head back. I never did pay you back for punching out Kang."

"A task for which I hardly need a reward, but I am not one to refuse a maiden's gratitude," Guangli replied agreeably. "Lead the way, Miss Ling."

It was nice, after dealing with so many closed off and complicated people, to just spend some time chatting with someone totally open.The food at the market teahouse was good, and she had to admit, there was certain appeal to torturing… that is training subordinates. Maybe she did need to take some more time with the Ma Sisters in the future. They hadn't been following her lately but they were still assigned to her after all.
As much of an exercise in relaxation as it was though, between speaking with Gu Tai and then spending time with Gan Guangli, Ling Qi's thoughts could not help but turn to Cai Renxiang. The time was soon coming when she would have to accept or reject the girls offer. As much trouble as she had been having she doubted that she had more than a month until her breakthrough completed.

Yet she still knew so little about her. She was convinced that the girls espoused views were genuine, true, but that wasn't really the same.

No, they needed to talk yet, and so Ling Qi's steps took her toward where she knew Cai Renxiang would be.If nothing else the girl stuck to her schedules like clockwork unless there was an emergency.

She found her, unsurprisingly, on the road between the market and the residential district, surrounded by her usual small tableau of unctionaries. Not doubting that the other girl could sense her since she was making no effort to hide, Ling Qi took up a position a polite distance down the road and waited for her to approach.

Sure enough, she felt Cai's gaze lock onto her the moment her group crested the hill she waited at the foot of, and the moment they grew near enough to speak without shouting, the heiress raised her hand to halt and silence her followers. "Ling Qi," she said by way of greeting. "What news brings you here? Have Fu Xiang and you determined the culprit of the crimes committed in the market?"

Ling Qi did not show the slightest hint of the twinge of guilt that passed through her at those words. Cai Renxiang trusted her subordinates too much, that was probably going to get her in trouble one day. "No, sadly not," she responded instead. "While we are on the trail of the culprit, Fu Xiang wishes to fully verify all of the evidence before presenting the case for your inspection, to avoid tarnishing any names unnecessarily."

"I see," Cai replied, expression stern. "I will continue to rely upon the two of you for your good work," she concluded with a nod. "What brings you here then?"

Ling Qi took a deep breath. "The matter that you gave me to deliberate over. If it would please you, I would like to discuss it. I believe the time to make the decision is coming soon."

The other girls with Cai glanced between them curiously, but the gaze of the heiress herself remained focused on Ling Qi's face with laser like intensity, the faint halo of light behind her brightening by degrees. "Very well," she said simply. "Continue and complete the requisitions in my absence, I will review them in the morn," she said, turning her attention back to her followers. "I will be beginning my evening cultivation somewhat early today."

Ling watched with a raised eyebrow as the girls surrounding her did the little social dance of accepting Cai Renxiang's dismissal, and did her best not to react to the furtive, curious, and calculating glances sent her way. Only when they had bustled off, leaving her alone with the heiress did Ling Qi speak again."Is that really going to be alright?" She asked. "I don't doubt that some rumors just got kicked up."

"It is inevitable," Cai Renxiang agreed, looking up at the sky, where streamers of color had begun to spread with the setting of the sun. "This is a matter of import though. I offer you my congratulations on reaching the third realm."

"Thank you very much, Lady Cai," Ling Qi replied, offering a polite bow, her hands clasped. "I admit, I almost expected you to be waiting in our dining room with Bai Meizhen to receive my answer," she kept her tone even, but tentatively teasing. Cai was serious at all times, but she seemed to accept a little bit of impropriety in their interactions.

"I am not so impatient," she answered just a touch dryly. "You have not yet completed your ascension either. I will not rush this matter further than I already have," she continued, before turning on her heel. "Come, I do know your specific concerns, but they are best not aired in the middle of the road."

Ling Qi blinked in surprise as Cai's feet left the ground, tendrils of light blooming over her shoulders, but hurried to follow, the mantle she wore over her gown fluttering s she rose into their air as well, trailing streamers of black mist. She caught up to the heiress in a moment, bobbing gently in the air beside her as the wind washed over them. She wasn't sure where they were going, but for now she just followed Cai Renxiang's lead.

"So you are confident in your reserves," Cai mused, glancing her way. "Good."

"Flight still drains me quickly," Ling Qi warned, without thought manipulating the rushing wind to avoid it interrupting her words. "As much as I wish it didn't," she admitted, looking at the mountain now spreading out below them. She still loved the sensation of flight. "Where are we going?"

"To a training ground of mine," the heiress answered simply. "Do not concern yourself with the drain for now. Liming's presence bolsters their lesser kin."

For a moment, Ling Qi didn't understand what she meant, but then she glanced down, at the pure white gown Cai wore, and met hungry red 'eyes'. "That is new,"she replied cautiously, now that she focused on it...the drain on her qi was a trickle compared to the current amount. "What is Liming exactly? I admit that I lack understanding in the matter."

"An artificial spirit created by my Lady Mother," Cai Renxiang replied shortly, her stern gaze passing over the landscape rushing below. "Object spirits are unreliable things, their formation difficult to predict, and their rate of growth slower and more easily disrupted than any other. The Duchess Cai has fixed many of these things, though the cost of the creation puts them beyond price. Aside from Liming, only three others of the same quality currently exist."

"I assume that Duchess Cai has one, and I suppose the Empress has one, who has the third?" Ling Qi asked curiously.

"You are correct in your assumptions," Cai Renxiang replied approvingly. Her lips thinned and her eyes narrowed slightly as she continued though, which was close to a scowl for the stoic girl. "The third belongs to Mother's greatest supporter among the province's nobles."

Ling Qi remained silent as they banked in their flight path, curving around the mountain. She elected not to push the topic further. "You know, that all reminds me, before the Sect, I had never left Tonghou. What is the capital like? You would have grown up there, right?"

"Xiangmen is unmatched in its beauty, save by the Imperial capital itself," Cai replied, easily shifting to the new topic as they began to descend. "Though I suppose each ducal family thinks the same of their seat."

"Perhaps, but that just means they are biased, right?" Ling Qi said, her tone slightly flippant.

"Of course," she replied, her serious tone never wavering. "Regardless, it is likely difficult for one of your background to picture. The city of Xiangmen was the original stronghold of Xi clan, and as such, the whole of it built into and onto the last of the great Heavenly Pillarwoods."

Ling Qi furrowed her brows for a moment. "The city is built into a tree? How…"

Cai gave a slightly amused huff. "As I said, difficult to picture. It is more than two kilometers across at the base, and its canopy breeches the clouds. The view from the ducal palace looks down upon the province like the seat of a divine judge. The city resides in hollows within the trunk and terraces carved into the exterior."

"That must have been scary as a child, do a lot of people fall?" Ling Qi asked, trying to imagine living so far off the ground. It was somewhat ironic, considering how many hundreds of meters up she was right now, they were beginning to descend though.

"Mortals are confined to the lower reaches, including children," the heiress said as the downward arc of their flight grew steeper. "For their own safety. A mortal would suffocate in the upper portions of the city. I did not meet my Mother in her palace until I was six years old and fully awakened."

That seemed a little wrong somehow, though obviously she didn't say so. Hadn't Han Jian said that it was odd for children to start cultivating before they were ten or so? "Well I suppose that makes sense," she said instead as the two of them landed in a strange field of tall, narrow stone pillars, wide enough only for a single person to stand upon. They rose from a pool of shimmering, clear water, charged with a potent qi.

Cai Renxiang stood straight and tall on the highest of the pillars, closing her eyes as she breathed in deeply from the placid atmosphere. Ling Qi could feel rigid qi that filled this place flowing toward the heiress, as her gown rippled, the fabric sparkling under the dying light. "This place is private," she said as she opened her eyes. "What is it that you wish to ask?"

Ling Qi restrained the urge to scuff her foot against the smooth surface of the stone pillar beneath her. "I've spent a fair amount of time around you now. I think I understand your goals, at least on a surface level," she began slowly. "I am even grateful to you for your help in understanding imperial law, though I have a long way to go," she added the last with a slight grimace.

"What troubles you then?" The other girl asked without hesitation.

"Despite all that,I feel like I don't know you, exactly," Ling Qi replied just as bluntly. "You said you wanted my loyalty, the kind I extend to Bai Meizhen, Li Suyin, Su Ling, or Gu Xiulan, but… I know things about them, personal things, and they know details of my own life that I don't easily share… we do not have that between us."

"I see," Cai Renxiang said with a slight frown. "You know of course, that I have investigated your background."

"There's that too," Ling Qi replied, crossing her arms. "I'm sure you know everything about me that the flapping lips of Tonghou could reveal, but I know nothing of you, beyond the obvious."

Silence fell between them, and this time Ling Qi did not bow her head, keeping her gaze locked with Cai's own as she waited for the heiress' answer.

"I have no frivolous details to share," Renxiang admitted bluntly after the silence had stretched on, her eyes remained intense and unblinking. "I do not have time for leisure. My life has been spent solely in preparation and training for the fulfillment of my role," she spoke contemplatively. "I could speak, I suppose of my preferred blends of tea, or the minor projects in tailoring I use as part of my meditative process, but I suspect that would not solve anything."

"I probably wouldn't understand," Ling Qi freely admitted. "All teas taste pretty similar to me, and my needlework is limited to repairs."

The other girls eyes flashed, the light behind her intensifying, casting her shadow across Ling Qi. "That will change should you join me. The foothills of the Emerald Seas produce most of the empires teas. It is a matter of court etiquette to recognize the various blends."

"Is that so?" Ling Qi replied, twisting a stray strand of hair between her fingers. "Well, I suppose taste testing teas is better than straining my eyes on books that could be used for paving stones," she murmured before shaking her head. "We're getting off track."

"True," Cai Renxiang agreed. "But I do not understand yet what you desire from this conversation."

"I'm not sure either," Ling Qi replied with a grimace. "It's just… you probably know that my Mother was a prostitute, that I spent most of my life as a thief. You probably have a bunch of records that mention the things I did in more detail than I remember. I guess… I want to know something about you. Something that isn't widely known, or easily found out."

The red 'eyes' splashed across the other girls chest looked down at her, no longer with hunger, but with suspicion as well, Cai's face was a blank and stoic mask. Some part of Ling Qi felt relief, she would be rebuffed, and go on with her life. "You ask for much, given your position," the heiress' voice was cool. "And the fact that you do not even pretend to have made your decision."

"I know, but this is what you wanted from me, friendship requires trust," Ling Qi replied defiantly, despite the worm of guilt in her gut, hadn't she lied to Cai Renxiang only minutes ago.

The light intensified, forcing Ling Qi to narrow her eyes to avoid being dazzled, Cai would tell her off soon, and this whole awkward thing could…

"My Mother terrifies me," Ling Qi blinked, almost jerking in surprise as the light faded, letting her see Cai's wary face as she spoke. "I speak not in general terms, she is a monster."

"Ah," Ling Qi knew she was gaping, but she couldn't quite figure out how to respond.

"The day I met my Mother was in her workshop, where she fitted Liming to me," Cai continued stiffly, the only indication of discomfort on her part the way that she fingered the hem of her sleeve. "Or rather, when she fitted me to Liming. She is not cruel, not truly, but she feels nothing. Everything and everyone around her are but threads in the pattern she intends to weave."

"I'm really not sure I should be listening to this," Ling Qi said after a moment. "I…"

"You asked," Cai replied blandly. "I do not speak to denigrate my honored Mother. I am a monster as well. Mother made it so, she has shown me the foulness and rot that infests the province, and I will see it purged. I do not find the weaving she intends to be displeasing… I merely believe that I might improve it, in time. I believe that her inhumanity will bring ruin when she finally grows bored of playing with her dolls and casts them aside. I think this, despite knowing that I dance upon her strings, knowing that I think this way because she shaped me so."

Ling Qi stared blankly at the heiress, uncomfortable at the admission that had just occurred. The lie she had spoken earlier, the lie she had intended to let pass without care, had helped set up herself suddenly seemed much more important. She had asked Cai Renxiang to trust her and the so the girl had.

[] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
[] Remain silent, thank her sincerely for her trust.
 
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