Sailor_Skarro
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I also want to try and get Ranching Domes out once we hit our Agri goals, not just Tarberry Development. Ranching Domes have some nice synergies with medicine, space, and SCIENCE
That seems like the kind of result you'd get out of rolling, say, 75 for Stability, 20 for Friendliness, and ?? for Effectiveness. Not the 25-2-25-ish statline we actually got.obviously we programmed the ai to prevent the spread of the green death rock. The problem is that it decided that humans spread the death rock to much and that needs to stop. And since it want a nat 1 it decided that out of the factions that nod spreads more of the death rock and that the gdi which fights nod is acceptable to have since they're stopping nod from spreading the death rock. However they are still humans which historically spread the rock alout. So it will work with gdi very grudgingly.
My impression is that railgun harvester factories are mainly impactful in the Red/Yellow Zones closest to where they are sited. Sure, GDI can load them on a ship and move them elsewhere in the world if it needs some railgun harvesters over there, but we can already do that anyway with a single factory in principle. Note that the factories are pretty widely distributed across GDI's territory, and that fully three of the six (Maputo, Bissau, and Porto) are located near the territory of the two warlords most prone to sneaky guerilla shit and hitting our harvesters (the African sabotage guy, and Reynaldo the European guerilla guy, respectively). A fourth out of the six factories, Albany, is near the territory of Gideon, who is one of the most aggressive warlords and the one who's most consistently gone after our harvesting operations on a large scale.Yes, but this isn't about equipping the factories with railguns so they are defended. Their location is irrelevant.
Yes, but it's going to be far more effective at riling up the warlords closest to it. Indian mystery warlord will see a threat. Nuke-happy Afghan warlord will see a threat.We have harvesting operations all over the planet, and Karachi isn't just going to get one Warlord riled up.
I'm not discounting them, it's just kind of tough to crowbar in the means to build them given how Energy-hungry they are. And until pretty recently we were kind of focused on using our Tib dice to build up our RpT income. Now that we're floating around 850 and likely to hit 900 or so we're in fairly good circumstances, but that wasn't true until recently.I wouldn't discount the railgun harvesters just because we might get hover upgrades soon. We're expecting a war to break out any turn now, and NOD will probably want to hit every resource harvesting operation they possibly can.
Hm, I phrased that poorly. I'm pretty sure I know what they do in terms of "what do you get from them," though it might be some combination of +Energy and +Logistics since the tarberries are specifically advertised as a source of vehicle fuel, especially for military vehicles.They're probably a way to get small quantities of Energy from Agriculture dice, like Spider Cotton for Capital Goods.
I'm okay with doing that as a sort of passion project.I also want to try and get Ranching Domes out once we hit our Agri goals, not just Tarberry Development. Ranching Domes have some nice synergies with medicine, space, and SCIENCE
The meat would be a good bribing material for the negotiating people and other people as well also as rewards?I also want to try and get Ranching Domes out once we hit our Agri goals, not just Tarberry Development. Ranching Domes have some nice synergies with medicine, space, and SCIENCE
Large-scale tissue replacement requires amino acids and nutrients from cows, which aren't very common anymore due to Tiberium encroachment forcing people into protected urban centres (and away from farmland).The meat would be a good bribing material for the negotiating people and other people as well also as rewards?
Yes I am just saying that there probably can be some meat be set aside for certain things for some bribes or rewards or something.Large-scale tissue replacement requires amino acids and nutrients from cows, which aren't very common anymore due to Tiberium encroachment forcing people into protected urban centres (and away from farmland).
I mean, GDI probably would do a pretty decent job of raising Planet. And while the idea of it getting an infestation of Tiberium is horrifying, we'd throw so much shit at containing it it'd would make NOD's head spin.I know we are almost going to be Mass Effect crossover and all, but I see the word Alpha Centuri and I can't stop thinking of tiberium-mutated mind worms.
Round trip is a decadeish I am pretty sure. Would need to double check, but it is very much doable.How long would it take for a probe to get to Alpha Centuri with our current G-Drive technology? Considering with Pathfinder we can get to Pluto in 25.5 days.
Because what? Because it is important for AI to have moral principles, questions of existential existence or the opportunity to develop skills in creating synthesizer music. I don't see any other reasons.
The creation and application of unusual tactics to counter the enemy implies that the machine has a large number of options for evaluation and a system for comparing theoretical solutions within this system. There is no reason why an AI should be aware of itself or even be able to think that the data obtained from the film was useful. It is enough for AI to simply get another set of data "artistic assessment of military actions by humans" and give an account to itself about this.
Actually, let's start with the more banal, can GAI immutable elements? Just because this is the basic definition of AI, the ability to change self code, and damn it, I would never let a machine on the battlefield that can decide that war is hell and that defeat will save more lives in the long-term model. A self-aware AI is literally a slave, which in itself is not very effective. A good AI is a philosophical zombie, an AI that can say "This is not good", but which does not really have experiences and simply emulates the answer using the example of embedded or created patterns of behavior that are expected of it.
Only tangentially related but I love any excuse to post this short story
Incorrect. Money is an abstract measure of value. Just because something is intangible, does not mean it is a fiction.
But that's a derail.
Incorrect, unless you're using a severely nonstandard definition of "slave". Ithillid has stated GDI has declared the AI as possessing personhood, even if it is subject to "diminished capacity" issues.
And the general discussion of AI outside of the specific instance of this quest is a derail, and should probably be taken elsewhere.
So, new topic: Upcoming SCED plans, featuring "How do we spend all this money?", megaprojects, and hiring increases!
Definitely need to get more phases on New Johnson for more teams, finish the High-Sec Materials Lab, and hopefully finish the Venus Tiberium Heist. And... apparently BOT has ideas about what SCED can spend the bulk of its incoming funding on.![]()
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To expand on this you will get to choose one of a few megaprojects to do. Available are:
-Deep Space Luna Telescope
Beeeeeeg Telescope built into a crater on the dark side of the moon for making high resolution pictures of nearby star systems.
-Orbital Fusion Prototype
Build an testbed orbital fusion reactor setup
-Alpha Centauri Probe Planning
The GDrive enables sending a probe to the nearest star system on reasonable star system, but even planning and designing this starship will be a megaproject and the actual construction a treasury level project.
If there are more ideas, shoot!![]()
may I put forth some ideas ?,
for example humans are a sort of biological computer themselves working of chemical reactions and neurons ,for example if we find something repulsive the brain runs disgust.exe so that we try and avoid it , if we find something that disturbs us the brain runs fear.exe to direct us to stay away or anger.exe to encourage us to confront and deal with it , so on and so forth , but AI doesn't have any of those since it lacks the hard wear to simulate human neurons and or the chemical reactions that cause instinctive emotional behavior like fear or anger , that means that troupes like AI turning on its creators out of self preservation shouldn't really happen since self preservation is biological response derived from a build in fear of death or none existence , in fact nor should any emotional derived for an AI like existentialism "does this unit have a soul ?" for the same reasons mentioned above .
of course if the AI does have hard were simulating organic neuron networks and brain chemistry like presumably AI like (EDI and the Geth) do in mass effect then the above does not apply
another idea on how AI could realistically behave is paper clip maximizer were you give the AI a list of goals of differing priorities and it will only think , behave ,react and plan based on that list goals to the exclusion of all else
We're going to need some good computer programs to handle scanning the system and grabbing samples. Because it would be pretty hard to find crew for a 10 year mission.Round trip is a decadeish I am pretty sure. Would need to double check, but it is very much doable.
The trick is that if you can get a working orbital nuclear reactor (fission or fusion) that's capable of steady sustained output for years... Well, you have 0.5g acceleration. That's about five meters per second gained, per second. In theory you could accelerate to half the speed of light (150,000,000 meters per second) in about 30,000,000 seconds.Round trip is a decadeish I am pretty sure. Would need to double check, but it is very much doable.
Eh. You're not wrong, but it would probably be easier to find volunteers willing to undertake a ten year interstellar mission than to be really sure you've programmed the computer well enough that everything goes according to plan.We're going to need some good computer programs to handle scanning the system and grabbing samples. Because it would be pretty hard to find crew for a 10 year mission.
[PENDATIC]Ironically, a Babbage machine is the one computer you can't actually make in Minecraft, per say. No real physics, gears and linkages don't work. (Or work, in mods, on such a simplified model that a clockwork computer is impossible.)
Although you could probably make a Turing machine with a piston feedtape.[/PENDATIC]
In all fairness, there are the aliens who seeded Alpha Centauri with life with the intent of creating Planet (they call it the Manifold IIRC) as some kind of illegal research project.Alpha Centuri would be interesting because of what it brings to the biological tech tree. You can get some real crazy stuff following that development path, and as we're not limited by gameplay constraints it'd be easy to combine it with our rapidly advancing technology. From a munchkin perspective, it's a lot of overpowered fun waiting to be had.
But then all there is afterwards is the Scrin to use that tech on, and the galaxy is just empty after that. A fun stop off, but I don't know if you could really make a good follow up quest with it.
Mass Effect would be a very odd challenge, assuming the existence of the Scrin doesn't massively change the galactic layout. Humanity would posses a great deal of advanced and unique technology. Unfortunately almost all of it is weapons tech and odd mining equipment, because it also has a dangerous but useful glowing green grey goo crystal that's also highly mutagenic. But from a pure numbers game, everyone has us beat. Our population is still falling, and it's not going to stop soon enough. Meanwhile the galaxy is just... Big, ya know? It'd be a real struggle to maintain independence and technology, and that's before the Reapers come into play.
Of course in the likely event the Scrin have shaken things up, it'd be impossible to say how the chips would fall, other than humanity would be happy to discover a race of blue space babes![]()
If it wasn't a Starcraft cross, yeah that'd be pretty fun. Just as something to slot into a technologically boring setting like Mass Effect, I'd approve.I doubt we'll see SMAC show up, but it's genuinely one of the few sci-fi settings self contained enough I wouldn't scream bloody murder over combining it with a second crossover.
I can see it working, though the Scrin would be stealing part of the Protoss' shtick. Just for tech and research fun I'd go for it.I'd love to see Old school Starcraft, but I'm coming to peace with the fact it's likely another victory for Mass Effect.
Starcraft is pretty near the top of my list for an Evacuation story. But it does not work at all well for what you are trying to do, which is holding onto Earth. I could see it being a post ascension Nodquest however.
In addition to the fact that we may encounter fans of paternalism among people because of the significant concern of the state for them, as well as the unwillingness to see a weak state. But we can't make people think that GDI is a good thing, we don't have a human irradiation facility in orbit.AI simply would be more dependent on welfare programs than most citizens. The solution then is to create a culture opposed to government coercion and a government responsive to that popular culture... which we seemingly very much do have.
War is politics only beyond war. This is a strategic level. At the tactical level, this is the achievement of the questions posed and no one will give the AI the opportunity to order, not advise. At least by virtue of responsibility. What punishments can exist for AI at all? Erasing? Who would we punish for a failed offensive?Ah but on which battlefield? As a reminder war is an application of politics trough force. Like literally all war serves is as a means of achieving political goals trough an escalation in the use of force as the means of coercion. So without morals all an AI is is a weapon and the only question is who is it's current wielder. This would lead to a very fruitful hacker's underground specializing in AI theft.
In addition to the fact that we may encounter fans of paternalism among people because of the significant concern of the state for them, as well as the unwillingness to see a weak state. But we can't make people think that GDI is a good thing, we don't have a human irradiation facility in orbit.
In the case of AI, I don't think there are forms of "open source" access to the internals of AI within which there would be opportunities to prevent brainwashing. We are literally creating AI. Who says you won't put a backdoor in there? Especially considering the gray zone of the special services.
Your analogy would be correct if we had reliable mind control systems known to society. However, in the case of AI, this is what it is. We know how to make AI work for us and the main reason why it is not being done is our unwillingness. A mediocre counterweight, don't you think?
War is politics only beyond war. This is a strategic level. At the tactical level, this is the achievement of the questions posed and no one will give the AI the opportunity to order, not advise. At least by virtue of responsibility. What punishments can exist for AI at all? Erasing? Who would we punish for a failed offensive?
Let me remind you that the main reason for opposing medical robots in operating rooms is the issue of responsibility in case of harm to the patient. In the modern world, I'm talking about telemedicine, but still. If the AI makes a mistake, is the AI to blame, the one who provided the wrong data or the one who programmed the AI? What punishments other than the death penalty are generally possible for AI?
AI without morals is a weapon. Like nuclear bombs. NOD likes to steal nuclear bombs, and GDI hides it. All sides know how nuclear bombs work. AI with morals is an alien. You need to consider his morality. Could AI be a traitor? Can AI conscientiously substitute troops? This is a complex variable, and damn it, there are enough situations with variables in the war that, as a general, I would be in favor of banning AI in the army and introducing highly developed analytical programs.
I don't need fucking psychiatrists for AI, I need cybernetic warfare specialists at headquarters. Simply by virtue of the fact that the weapon must shoot at the enemy, a nuclear bomb should not think that it will be worth its explosion to the city under the bomb. At least because in this case psychological warfare would work against the bomb.
On Agriculture, I think we've run out of time to do Perrenials/Kuzdu. We're anticipating a war soon and all, so more food in reserve is a high priority. Even if Kudzu Phase 3 is a very nice benefit, we really don't want egg in our face if we have territory that ends up running out of food in reserve while we were busy making large supplies of tea.
It's unfortunate that Freeze Dried Food Plants costs 20R/die, but the sooner we manage to fund it, the safer we'll be to fill out all the phases of Kudzu or build the Ranching Domes.
We don't get an additional Free Die from the Philadelphia finishing. We still have 7.Alright then. Still with 8 Free Dice because nobody has told me if we get an extra Free Die from Philadelphia II or not the newest version of my preliminary plan:
No, I know about that, that's been done lots of times.It has, in fact, been done. Turing complete 8-bit computer with a tiny bit of RAM, a 3-digit 7-segment display, and a blisteringly fast 1-hertz clock rate (the video I saw, not the actual theoretical limit). Minecraft is terrible as a computer emulator. Factorio does it much better, though still not particularly well.
Bot has other things to do atm. Maybe tomorrow.Hey @BOTcommander you alright? You usually post a new quarter of the SCED quest by now.