- Location
- Wall Gazing
I'm a bit confused, I thought it would be 8 military dice next turn right? +1 from the coin flip and +1 from Philadelphia?
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
I'm a bit confused, I thought it would be 8 military dice next turn right? +1 from the coin flip and +1 from Philadelphia?
- Location
- Washington DC
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
What's the next goal for infrastructure after the Integrated Cargo System? Are we hardening our logistics more with projects like the suborbital shuttles and railroads or are we going for Karachi?
Sailor_Skarro
The Lurker
Karachi is currently scheduled to happen in Q1.
Quarter after the next will be a big push to secure Karachi, a bit of our military spending this turn (and, likely, almost all of it next turn) is focused on preparation for it. Not sure if we're just going to relegate Infrastructure dice to it or Tiberium as well.
Sailor_Skarro
The Lurker
It's the Karachi Sprint, current plan is at a minimum all the Infra and Tib Dice, maybe the Free Dice too. Gotta shock it so NOD can't respond effectively before it's up.
- Location
- USA
Hmm...
Wasn't that the nod group with the monsters?
As I recall our current munitions weren't good against them. Are we doing the make new munitions thing next turn.
Or maybe the nod war crime flamethrower tech would help against the biological terrors.
Wasn't that the nod group with the monsters?
As I recall our current munitions weren't good against them. Are we doing the make new munitions thing next turn.
Or maybe the nod war crime flamethrower tech would help against the biological terrors.
They come from India, but have been distributed worldwide. URLS rockets and Zone Armored troops have demonstrated effectiveness against them. Their only real advantage seems to be against conventional infantry (and even that may not last with the GD3 development program), and I believe ZOCOM will be involved in the Karachi offensive.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Exactly.Nooooooooo not the one who was going to roll out the health stuff we finished!
It's actually really bad optics for the Nod, though I wish they failed.
Noddie A: "We killed the guy that was making the lives of all defectors better. The one who was overseeing food and protective suit deliveries across the globe. The one who was responsible for ensuring everyone was being fed, clothed, housed, healed and employed. All the refugees to GDI, and to some extent everyone whom they supplied outside their lofty Blue Zones."
Noddie B: "Including the population getting their fancy new protective suits?"
Noddie A: "Yeah them too. Why do you ask?"
- Location
- USA
Should we rush the zocom factory closest to there so the conventional infantry in that area would get some armors to work with?
I'm just spitballing here. I've got no idea what people are planning for next turn already.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Really hope that Karachi sprint plan comes with putting a MARV hub in India also as quickly as possible. If we're going to kick the hornets nest I'd at least like to make sure our people are as supported as possible.
Its going to be as fortified as Chicago, if not more. Karachi will be a harder target than a Marv Hub.
There are no plans for Ground Forces Zone Armor at present, though Orca refits and further consumable phases will be completed, so our infantry will hopefully have sufficient support.
Edit: There is also the Aurora, though that's intended as a long-range strategic bomber. Could still be useful, though.
There were plans this turn which called for a Reclamator Hub in Beirut (they did not go through), but I don't believe there is one intended for at least the initial phase. We may not need one. MARVs are primarily intended for Tiberium control in riskier areas.
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Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
- Location
- Belgrade,Serbia
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Alright Vote Closed reacting to reactions post:
Yes. One step closer.
And you are as always appreciated.
Good Edit. You should continue to roll assassination rolls.
We've already pulled of an actual bull in china shop action when NOD targeted our Harvesters. Bulls in real life are actually both incredibly agile and conscious of their environment.
Well this is just my guess, but considering Kane is from the Balkans with deep connections to Serb and/or Aromanian people maybe just maybe:
using East Asian alcohol as sacrifice is the thing you are doing wrong here.
So a mentally disabled AI. Hey @Ithillid can we care for it? Like I get it's bad, but we should be humane to our first angry mentally disabled digital child.
Especially since the public likes it.
My guess would be a colonoscopy.
Huh? Good to know that the Department of Randomness is through.
Yes. Yes you did. Looking forward to next time.
Yes consistency in randomness is something that eases our planning because it's not truly random them and makes it easier to plan around.
I thought we got a +2 for next turn. Or maybe I'm misremembering. Hey @Ithillid is it +1 or +2 for all categories next turn?
What sort of burning in what sort of fire?
Yes. It is because that means we get to plan ahead in Orbital now.
I'm more in the mood for Red Zone Containment Lines. I want them done before the next Forgotten Conference, they get us a trickle of income and get us more Red Zone Abatement which we still don't have enough of.
Not even if we complete it fully. We would need to do at least one follow up project to be able to get that.
Alright now for the math posts and there are 3 this time. First the one by @Lightwhispers as usual:
next is a second Mathpost by @Vehrec
And as usual a few errors:
- Strategic Food Stockpile is 188, I checked, not 186.
- Orbital Strike Regimental Team Stations are 55 not 45.
Then there is a third! mathpost by @doruma1920:
Which also gets the OSRCTS wrong. Seo has a +5 to stations bonus. So it's 55.
Eh. Why not here have the Resource Changes for this turn:
+16 Energy from Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3)
+8 Capital Goods -4 Labor -8 Energy from Blue Zone Heavy industrial Sectors
-1 Stable Transuranics -2 Energy +15 Resources per Turn from T-Glass Foundries (Stage 1)
+2 Food in Reserve -4 Food from Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 1)
+50 Processing Capacity + 3 Stable Transuranics from Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 2)
+20 Resources per Turn from Offshore Tiberium Harvesting Stations (Phase 2)
+4 to all Dice +1 Die for each category +15 Political Support from GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5)
-1 Health +1 Labor per Turn from Prosthetics Deployment Initiatives (Phase 3)
-8 Capital Goods +2 Energy +1 Military Die from Wartime Factory Refits
-8 Energy from completing both Aurora Strike Bombers Factories
+5 Political Support -15 Consumer Goods
Energy: 8+16-8-2+2-8 = 8
Capital Goods: 5+8-8 = 5
Labor: 38+3-4 = 37 (+3+1 = +4 per Turn)
Stable Transuranics: Edit: 13-1+3 = 15
Resources per Turn: 810+15+20 = 845
Food: 21-4 = 17 (8+2 = 10 Reserve)
Processing Capacity: 1770+20 = 1790/2370+50 = 2420
Political Support: 70+15+5 = 90
Health: 12-1 = 11 (2 Consumed)
Consumer Goods: 43+5-15 = 33
Now if you'll excuse me I need to track down an old Dice post by @Ithillid and then make a preliminary plan for next turn.
I've decided to give a go at something unusual: This post lists the dice rolls that are needed for a project to be complete. After the rolls are called, you can use this to quickly figure out if each project completed or not. It's kind of a reverse-results post, basically.
This doesn't replace proper results posts, since it doesn't show you how much progress we made; only if a project passed or failed. But I figured it might be useful in the time between when the rolls are made and someone puts together a results post. (Hopefully it'll cut down on the panic that can sometimes happen.) Though that all said, TBH I mostly did this because I was bored.
Plan Mass Military and the Mysterious Martian Materials
- Integrated Cargo System 5 dice: 338+
- Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 1 die: 4+
- Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors 3 dice: 80+
- T-Glass Foundries (Stage 1) 4 dice: 161+
- Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 1) 3 dice: 81+
- Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 2) 1 die: 34+
- Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations (Phase 2) 4 dice: 61+
-- Phase 2+3: 261+
- Liquid Tiberium Power Cell Deployment (Phase 1) 1 die: 94+
- GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 4 dice: 91+
- Study Novel Material 1 die: 17+
- Prosthetics Deployment Initiatives (Phase 3) 3 dice: 59+
- Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development 1 die: 11+
- Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 3) 3 dice: 22+
-- Phase 3+4: 122+
- Reclamator Fleet YZ-10 South 1 Admin die: 13+
- Long Range Sensor System Deployment (Phase 2) 2 dice: N/A
- Orca Refit Deployment 3 dice: 125+
- Aurora Strike Bomber Factories (Oslo/Anchorage) 2 dice each: 35+
- Orbital Strike Regimental Combat Team Stations (Phase 1) 1 die: N/A
Plan ICS, OSRCT, Auroras, Super Orcas, Eezo!
- Integrated Cargo System 7 Dice: 338+
- Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 1 die: 4+
- Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors 2 dice: 103+
- Hover Chassis Development 1 die: 17+
- T-Glass Foundries (Stage 1) 4 dice: 161+
- Perennial Aquaponics Bays 1 die: N/A
- Wadmalaw Kudzu Plantations (Phase 1) 2 dice: 99+
- RZ-3N/S MARV Hub (Istanbul/Beirut) 2 Mil 2 Tib dice: 8+
-- Two Hubs: 133+
-- Three Hubs: 258+ (17%)
--- Four Hubs: 383+ (0.01%)
- Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 2) 1 die: 34+
- Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations (Phase 2) 4 dice: 61+
-- Phase 2+3: 261+
- GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 4 dice: 91+
- Study Novel Material 1 die: 17+
- Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development 1 die: 11+
- Human Genetic Engineering Programs 2 dice: 49+
- Domestic Animal Programs 1 die: N/A
- Orbital Strike Regimental Combat Team Stations (Phase 1) 2 dice: 155+
- Orca Refit Deployment 3 dice: 125+
- RZ-3N/S MARV Hub (Istanbul/Beirut) 2 Mil 2 Tib dice: 8+
-- Two Hubs: 133+
-- Three Hubs: 258+ (17%)
--- Four Hubs: 383+ (0.01%)
- Aurora Strike Bomber Factories (Oslo/Anchorage) 2 dice each: 35+
- Reclamator Fleet YZ-10 South 1 Admin die: 13+
Minor note: In the Array I accidentally listed Integrated Cargo System as being at 207/800, when it is actually at 307/800. This has been corrected in the Array in the Informational threadmarks.
Yes. One step closer.
And you are as always appreciated.
Good Edit. You should continue to roll assassination rolls.
We've already pulled of an actual bull in china shop action when NOD targeted our Harvesters. Bulls in real life are actually both incredibly agile and conscious of their environment.
Well this is just my guess, but considering Kane is from the Balkans with deep connections to Serb and/or Aromanian people maybe just maybe:
using East Asian alcohol as sacrifice is the thing you are doing wrong here.
So a mentally disabled AI. Hey @Ithillid can we care for it? Like I get it's bad, but we should be humane to our first angry mentally disabled digital child.
Especially since the public likes it.
My guess would be a colonoscopy.
Huh? Good to know that the Department of Randomness is through.
Yes. Yes you did. Looking forward to next time.
Yes consistency in randomness is something that eases our planning because it's not truly random them and makes it easier to plan around.
I thought we got a +2 for next turn. Or maybe I'm misremembering. Hey @Ithillid is it +1 or +2 for all categories next turn?
What sort of burning in what sort of fire?
Yes. It is because that means we get to plan ahead in Orbital now.
I'm more in the mood for Red Zone Containment Lines. I want them done before the next Forgotten Conference, they get us a trickle of income and get us more Red Zone Abatement which we still don't have enough of.
Not even if we complete it fully. We would need to do at least one follow up project to be able to get that.
Alright now for the math posts and there are 3 this time. First the one by @Lightwhispers as usual:
next is a second Mathpost by @Vehrec
And as usual a few errors:
- Strategic Food Stockpile is 188, I checked, not 186.
- Orbital Strike Regimental Team Stations are 55 not 45.
Then there is a third! mathpost by @doruma1920:
Which also gets the OSRCTS wrong. Seo has a +5 to stations bonus. So it's 55.
Eh. Why not here have the Resource Changes for this turn:
+16 Energy from Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3)
+8 Capital Goods -4 Labor -8 Energy from Blue Zone Heavy industrial Sectors
-1 Stable Transuranics -2 Energy +15 Resources per Turn from T-Glass Foundries (Stage 1)
+2 Food in Reserve -4 Food from Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 1)
+50 Processing Capacity + 3 Stable Transuranics from Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 2)
+20 Resources per Turn from Offshore Tiberium Harvesting Stations (Phase 2)
+4 to all Dice +1 Die for each category +15 Political Support from GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5)
-1 Health +1 Labor per Turn from Prosthetics Deployment Initiatives (Phase 3)
-8 Capital Goods +2 Energy +1 Military Die from Wartime Factory Refits
-8 Energy from completing both Aurora Strike Bombers Factories
+5 Political Support -15 Consumer Goods
Energy: 8+16-8-2+2-8 = 8
Capital Goods: 5+8-8 = 5
Labor: 38+3-4 = 37 (+3+1 = +4 per Turn)
Stable Transuranics: Edit: 13-1+3 = 15
Resources per Turn: 810+15+20 = 845
Food: 21-4 = 17 (8+2 = 10 Reserve)
Processing Capacity: 1770+20 = 1790/2370+50 = 2420
Political Support: 70+15+5 = 90
Health: 12-1 = 11 (2 Consumed)
Consumer Goods: 43+5-15 = 33
Now if you'll excuse me I need to track down an old Dice post by @Ithillid and then make a preliminary plan for next turn.
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On the topic of Chicago we may want to further fortify (and complete) that too.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Intended for Tiberium control perhaps, but in practice they're super heavy land battleships and have excellent force projection. Having one to two dozen super heavies on hand is a massive force multiplier for any defense.
There have been two battles against a SMARV fleet in this quest. At Yellow Zone 5a NOD attempted to fight a dozen with a Redeemer and multiple companies of Avatars and Purifiers and it was a slaughter that sent the Noddies running. At Mobile Bay the NOD commander upon seeing a whole fleet of 16 SMARVs coming for him decided to run away because he knew he couldn't fight them.
So if we're really going to send people into probably the most dangerous and populous NOD stronghold on the planet I'd like them to have some insurence in the form of a massive fleet of super heavy landships to back them up. I'd prefer people complain with 'Why did we put a MARV fleet there it was a waste of resources' instead of 'Oh the Humanity! If only we had built a MARV fleet there!'.
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Edit: The fleet was completed on the turn of the attack.
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- Pronouns
- He/It/Argh!
On that topic:
'Mandavi' would be the closest Hub location to Karachi.
Those two locations are backwards.
'Mandavi' would be the closest Hub location to Karachi.
It's still a ways away, and may actually be a more enticing target for Nod. May not be a good option initially, but once we secure a foothold in Karachi, we could use it to support an advance into India.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
New turn, new orbital Goal Mathpost.
120 Wasted process on Philly, shame it cant flow over to something else. But with that we have our first orbital megaproject done. I think a round of applause is in order. 🥳
I have seen mentions around to do heavy metal mines instead of regolith mines, so I'll do projections for both.
HMM:
Assuming Average Dice of 50: 54.38 Dice in total or 6.04 Dice/Turn
Assuming Average Dice of 45: 58.28 Dice in total or 6.47 Dice/Turn
RM:
Assuming Average Dice of 50: 51.32 Dice in total or 5.7 Dice/Turn
Assuming Average Dice of 45: 55 Dice in total or 6.11 Dice/Turn
If we can spare one free die consistently on orbital, we might as well do Heavy Metal Mining and allocate whatever progress we get over into something else in Orbital. Colombia or the new GDrive ship.
120 Wasted process on Philly, shame it cant flow over to something else. But with that we have our first orbital megaproject done. I think a round of applause is in order. 🥳
I have seen mentions around to do heavy metal mines instead of regolith mines, so I'll do projections for both.
HMM:
Assuming Average Dice of 50: 54.38 Dice in total or 6.04 Dice/Turn
Assuming Average Dice of 45: 58.28 Dice in total or 6.47 Dice/Turn
RM:
Assuming Average Dice of 50: 51.32 Dice in total or 5.7 Dice/Turn
Assuming Average Dice of 45: 55 Dice in total or 6.11 Dice/Turn
If we can spare one free die consistently on orbital, we might as well do Heavy Metal Mining and allocate whatever progress we get over into something else in Orbital. Colombia or the new GDrive ship.
It did occur to me that this was a bigger effort than the stabilizer satellites. About orbital mining: I believe phases after the first will give us strategic resources (like GZ Water or STUs), but I'm not sure what their use is. Rare Metals Harvesting seems more like straightforward resource generation, but isn't worth doing until Enterprise is upgraded. I feel like that should be our first priority (it could hypothetically also make mining easier, either by itself or with a bay, but this is pure speculation).
Edit: We should also consider that the Conestoga-class will enable GDSS Vulcan, an industrial station in the Belt which will allow for asteroid mining, though this might not be economical enough to complete our plan goals.
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- Location
- USA
For the moon mining, does that have synergy with Enterprise?
As in the more mining there is the better enterprise does and the better enterprise is the better the mining does?
As in the more mining there is the better enterprise does and the better enterprise is the better the mining does?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Orbital Resources need more complex refining and processing than Tiberium. There will come projects to turn Heavy/Light Metals, water etc into "Resources".
No. The only thing more stages of Enterprise adds are more processing cap for orbital resources. Eg, capacity to turn Heavy/Light Metals into "Resources".
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