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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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From what the creator of that map said, it's actually an inaccurate/incomplete map.

There's still too much Yellow and not enough Red Zone in it to be fully accurate.
 
Mathpost:
Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 3) 636+15=651/650
Communal Housing Experiments 178/140
Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 3) 199/300
Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors 146/500
Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 3) 260/320
Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2) 513/350
Red Zone Containment Lines (Stage 5) 234/180
Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 1) (New) 120/100
Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations 148/200
Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 101/40
GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 474/1425
Green Zone Teacher Colleges 211/200
Tissue Replacement Therapy Development 42/60
Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Development 33/60
Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development 66/120
Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7-South 189/105
Pacifier Mobile Artillery Vehicle Deployment 144/120
Tube Artillery Deployment 276/200
Shell Plants (Phase 4) 128/300
Naval Defense Laser Refits 381/330
Havoc Scout Deployment Brest 77/110
Havoc Scout Deployment Seoul 92/110
Security Review Military 183/DC50

Results:
+16 Housing
+4 Consumer Goods
+1 Energy Reserve
-4 Energy
+4 Food over 16 turns
+16 Consumer Goods over 16 turns
-5 Political Support
15 Resources/Turn
+50 Tiberium processing capacity
3 points of Red Zone Mitigation
++Artillery, +unhappy NOD missiles

Likely changed values for Q2:
+31 Housing, 18 Population in high-quality housing (assuming Communal housing doesn't count as high quality)
Energy:‌ ‌(+9)‌ ‌(+4 in reserve)
Consumer‌ ‌Goods:‌ Significant Surpluses ‌(+38?)‌ ‌(+5 from private industry)
Labor:‌ Significant ‌Surpluses‌ ‌(+34)‌ (+4 per turn) ‌
Tiberium‌ ‌Processing‌ ‌Capacity‌ ‌(1720/2320)‌ ‌
Political Support: 70
Resources:‌ ‌755

Edit: corrected PS because of spending on Offshore Tib harvesting
 
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Prime 2.0 said:
Because he is ascendant and any nod warlord consolidating power is extremely bad news for GDI, no matter who, and because we can, which we can't say for anyone else. I went over that in the faq already.
Cut the tall poppy. Delay, Delay, Delay.
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I do not agree with this characterization.
Yes, he's pulling new recruits off the fruits of his last major operation.
He is also fighting significant rebellions in his rear area.That does not spell ascendancy to me.

Prime 2.0 said:
Where on earth are you getting this massive lead time from? The completion of a deployment projects represents the item in question being in deployment, even when it's a factory for the item you're building. They'll be in operation the turn we fill that resource bar, and no later. This is how it's always worked.

This isn't like tiberium infusions where we're doing basic research, by the time a military platform design has hit our desk it has already gone through an enormous amount of design and pr
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Check your dates.
St Petersburg was in Q3 2058.The plan we are currently making is for Q1 2059.

Assuming your plan wins, and we dont have any dice mishaps?
Aurora RnD finishes Q1 2059
Aurora Factory(ies) finish Q2 2059, and start building aircraft.

Auroras become available Q3 2059.
One year.
Prime 2.0 said:
Yeah, and all they were moving was 1940s tech, without any worry for having to conceal those movements from satellites and infiltrators lest they be blown out of the sky. I have little doubt that Krukov's actual doctrine here is to deliberately put his factories in population centers so we can't ion cannon them. The auroras cut that gordian knot, and InOps already being in place means his window for moving them already gone.

Tooling for modern weapons is a lot more difficult to break down - seriously, 1940s is when an assembly line was a line of human workers performing manual tasks with hand tools, and maybe some cranes. No shit Stalin could move that in 6 months, that's nothing compared to a modern weapons factory.

But Krukov didn't even have 6 months to do it - it's been 3 since we learned where his stuff is, and we already have people on the ground there now who are reporting back about his internal politics. People on the ground to see where he'd move them to, and signs that he is moving them, or that they're gone. He hasn't done any of that. The factories are still th
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Nod has stealth disruptors and decoys.
Krukov specifically could not have moved an army of a hundred and fifty thousand troops over fifteen hundred kilometres from the Urals to St Petersburg in the face of oppressive GDI ion cannon coverage without liberal use of stealth and decoys.

Krukov didnt do this out of the blue.
He did a fuckton of prior preparation, in a situation of GDI orbital supremacy. He would have been aware of these things.
Give him a little credit for competence. IMO.
 
Well comparing that map and the old one we can see the blue zones got quite a bit bigger at least 😅
Yeah the yellow zones have been devastated, look at China for goodness sakes that's likely millions dead there alone. I'm torn between understanding why we're having difficulties with housing and the refugees and horrified that we aren't having more of a problem because that kind of indicates far far more have died.
Just realised that the Panama canal has joined the red zone which will likely have massively increased sea transit times for our holdings on the American West Coast.
Edit: Also just realised that the upcoming war with Nods likely going to be far harsher than a lot of us was anticipating, with the amount that the red zones have encroached on what we know are the Nod Warlords holdings we're likely getting close to a point where they either try to break us and claim our blue zones for themselves or get swallowed up by the encroaching red zones. It is quite possibly almost at a do or die point for some of the Warlords looking at the map.
 
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uju32 said:
Check your dates.
St Petersburg was in Q3 2058.The plan we are currently making is for Q1 2059.
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And that's where my counting ends, because I was talking about "how much time he had to move it before we had InOps eyes on it". The attack and interrogation happened sometime in Q3. InOps getting their intel from his newly discovered heartland happened sometime in Q4. Thus, ~3 months.

If he moves it at this point, we see it being deconstructed, see it getting moved, and bomb it in the new location.
uju32 said:
Nod has stealth disruptors and decoys.
Krukov specifically could not have moved an army of a hundred and fifty thousand troops over fifteen hundred kilometres from the Urals to St Petersburg in the face of oppressive GDI ion cannon coverage without liberal use of stealth and decoys.
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Which, again, he could do because we didn't know where his bases of operations were, and had nobody on the ground there to track big movements like that.

Now we do.

Vote's over though, so why torture ourselves arguing over it? It's been a long day.
 
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Because of the new map I have to say compared to the old one. We have made very good progress. On the US west coast alone, the two blue zones are now connected. Likewise in Portugal and Spain there we are now connected to France with green zones. The only problem is Russia there we were pushed back to Finland.

But Australia looks good, we've even made Tasmania a blue zone and New Zealand as a whole.

So I'm more than happy with it.
 
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Lightwhispers said:
Mathpost:
Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 3) 636+15=651/650
Communal Housing Experiments 178/140
Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 3) 199/300
Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors 146/500
Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 3) 260/320
Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2) 513/350
Red Zone Containment Lines (Stage 5) 234/180
Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 1) (New) 120/100
Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations 148/200
Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 101/40
GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 474/1425
Green Zone Teacher Colleges 211/200
Tissue Replacement Therapy Development 42/60
Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Development 33/60
Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development 66/120
Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7-South 189/105
Pacifier Mobile Artillery Vehicle Deployment 144/120
Tube Artillery Deployment 276/200
Shell Plants (Phase 4) 128/300
Naval Defense Laser Refits 381/330
Havoc Scout Deployment Brest 77/110
Havoc Scout Deployment Seoul 92/110
Security Review Military 183/DC50
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Shouldn't the Seoul Havoc plant finished if it had a 29% chance to complete? 74 should be high enough, right?
 
We're certainly pumping out arcologies. This time it only took two quarters before the next phase was done. Just one more to go and we'll have completed our plan goal. Then we can switch to something like Karachi or Suborbital Shuttles.

I guess Philly could have been higher.
 
Is it just me, or do SV dice pretty consistently roll below average? It feels like we finish more projects on bonuses than on actual dice, even if the dice are still doing the bulk of the work.
 
Okay. Based on Map the ZONE Priorities might be making sure that the Tibetan BLUE ZONE gets a corridor of safety or at least reinforced. Perhaps through Old Pakistan with the Karachi project. They are totally surrounded. Perhaps punching to envelope old Canada and connecting the US might be a worthwhile venture in the next PLAN.
 
So checked the average dice for this turn and it was 47.6 which is below average for sure- would have to check previous turns to see if we have consistently rolled below average.

Also ouch those Philly rolls, forgot about even trying to finish it next turn
 
Yeah. This what I was afraid of. The plans we have been making and are committed too are glorious but don't take into account that our rolls can be somewhat atrocious.

This turn basically slowed the whole plan down by two turns I think. Maybe 1.5. But that has been consistent over the last 4.
 
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