Please don't relitigate votes after they're complete. It tends to lead to badness.
Doesn't it? I mean, our usual MO for vehicle fighting in Tib War Three involved a lot of direct fire combat; we can go back to fighting the same old way. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Ground Forces sees both ablatives and shells as important priorities.
We can get a good push dynamic out of Orbital with only 2-3 Free dice, because Philadelphia Phase 5 is about 20 dice from completion. If we're not willing to go ham and commit 5-6 Free dice per turn to try and rush the project in two turns, then at this point we're pretty well locked in to spending 7-8 dice per turn on it and getting it in 2059Q3. Good enough, and fully in keeping with completing our Plan commitment as far as I can tell.
Yeah. It neuters their ability to build light, easily portable, low logistics footprint man-portable heavy weapons; they have to go back to rocket launchers (more expensive per shot) and those new bipropellant guns (probably not cheap, and with pretty stringent ammunition storage and safety requirements).
I'm planning to invest two dice, which probably won't finish it but gets us close to being able to deploy our STEEL REHN on some basic level.
That's a significantly disputed expectation.
Alright, when are you expecting them?
Already done on this post: Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
Those are the general Tib rolls, for how much it advances/retreats. The mutation rolls haven't been done yet.
I'm expecting an increasing tempo of attacks, but not a the sort of full-court press that the term "dogpile" implies.
Um, you might want to check the Service resource allocation. Also, given your different priorities compared to me, I suggest that you try to carve out some more resources from the Tiberium budget (e.g. a prospecting die or two) to fully activate Services.
One problem I have with this plan is that realistically, next turn we'll still be too busy working on Perennials to do caffeinated kudzu plantations anyway. We might as well push the development back one more turn; the planting of the perennials themselves is proof of good faith in terms of solving the caffeine crisis.
Also, I should point out that Philadelphia Phase 5 could easily take more than 21 dice to complete. If we want to be confident of getting it in 2059Q3 (and we probably should want that)... Well, we need to put eight or more dice per turn into it. It's like the stabilizer; you're a lot better off throwing dice into it earlier rather than later.
Speaking roughly, the next phase of ablatives is about 2.25 dice from completion. The next phase of shell plants is about 4.5 dice from completion.
You're right and I support this, but I'm also trying to clear out some of our major backlog of other hardware. The sensor project is quite expensive per-die, too, so it works out better on a turn where we don't feel committed to quite so many 20 R/die projects, or where we have another 50 RpT or so to throw around relative to the current situation.
I want to be prepared for a dogpile because it's a realistic worst-case scenario. Now, acting like a full dogpile will happen automatically in 2059Q2 is probably straining the bounds of realism. But if we get hit by three or four warlords at once, or if they start actually seriously committing their forces to the point where it really risks hurting them if they lose, we have a problem on a much larger scale than we've had during the game turns so far.
Truthfully I think this is actually missing some of the point: GDI is prepared for a full dogpile as a matter of course. Gideon was thrown back from the gates of Chicago by regional forces and relatively nearby air assets. Stahl was matched blow for blow and driven back with the assets around the local MARV hub. Krukov fought almost entirely local assets who were either on long-term commitment to the theater or militia.
I mean, that's fair, but at the same time, aside from OSRCT (which is a plan commitment and useful to have as a strategic reserve in case any warlord is doing unusually well)...
Not without another four Capital Goods. Which would require us to accomplish some fairly significant project(s).
Personally I'd rather stop at Columbia Phase 3 for the current Plan, just because that's probably about all we can fit in. If we do well and get Philadelphia Phase 5 done by 2059Q3, we can do a rapid push on Columbia in 2059Q4 as a love letter to the Starbound party, something I think they'd greatly appreciate- but then we'd have to pivot back to Enterprise.
Okay no you misunderstand. Assuming 7 dice/turn, Philly should be done in 3 turns, after which we will have 6 orbital dice. I would like for 6+2 free dice to be used in orbital for the rest of the plan, giving us an additional 8-9 dice or 560-720 progress worth in orbital we can put on other stuff, like Novel Materials, the new Gdrive ship, or just Colombia.
Some suggestions- not all can realistically be taken.
I tried to acknowledge that that wasn't strictly an argument against anything we were specifically doing- or you in particular, merely that we have a skewed perspective on some of these things because all the major battles we've witnessed were relatively isolated from one another.
