Lets wait for the new turn to come up, if SMARVs give good income and abatement then maybe the delay will be worth it in the long run. Putting this stuff in place is expensive and slow no matter what.
 
We need to focus our military projects on the Steel Talons and Navy. We've got all the other branches to Decent confidence. Now we need to fix the Talons and Navy.

I'd like to emphasize again that the Steel Talons are DARPA with teeth. The military forces they have are for live testing of equipment and protection of their facilities. And as they are DARPA, that includes protection of scientists. Remember that the Talons made up a significant part of the Cheyenne Mountain garrison. We've been lucky enough that Nod hasn't tried serious attempts to get at our scientists but we need to increase funding to the Talons whenever we can do so.
 
-[ ] Reclamator Hub Yellow Zone 5a (Progress 126/105)

The biggest challenge in the Yellow Zone hub has not been Tiberium, but in fact humanitarian. While the local population is mistrustful of GDI, and of the new fortress being erected on the coast, it has not stopped or meaningfully slowed their approaches, with some few hundred accepting offers to move to blue zones, primarily in North America, Africa, and Europe. Others have begun congregating near the hub as it provides protection from local warlords. While not precisely safe, especially without the presence of its MARV fleet, (despite some being assembled from the overflow out of the Red Zone fleet being assembled this quarter) it is safer than most other regions, especially with the inflow of basic comforts, suchs as portable water filters, and solar tarps, along with prefabricated shelters. While before Tiberium the population clinging to the walls (and occasionally spilling onto the MARV tracks before being asked to move by GDI officers) would have been called a favela, but in all practicality, it also represents a significant improvement in living conditions.
The hub itself is placed on the coast, and will effectively cut off connection or uncontrolled migration from South America north, or south from mesoamerica. In coordination with the other fleets in the region, it will create opportunities for large sections of the yellow zone to be controlled and made generally safe for the population, despite the efforts of the Brotherhood of NOD.
It's actions like this that really make me feel like we're doing some good.

Making the Global Defense Initiative a truly global agency that stands for the good of humanity, not just the blue zones.
No matter what those idiots in Initiative First believe.
 
1 die/turn on the YZ MARVs isn't bad, as long as we keep giving funding each quarter. But I'll be surprised if normal-MARVs are really going to be worth more than SMARVs; even just +5 RpT or +1 mitigation is well worth the extra cost.
We need to focus our military projects on the Steel Talons and Navy. We've got all the other branches to Decent confidence. Now we need to fix the Talons and Navy.
"Decent" isn't the highest level of confidence. Not that we shouldn't invest in the Steel Talons and the Navy; we absolutely should. But we're not done with everyone else yet, either. Especially if we want to keep expanding GDI's reach and evacuate more YZ refugees, 'Decent' isn't going to be good enough.
 
Our military does want us to draw down on MARVs in relation to other military projects, so while we still need two more MARVs, we probably ought to slow roll Chicago and the South American MARVs- I'd be lying if I said I didn't find the idea of rescue raids immensely appealing.
 
growing set of rumors of potential splits in the Free Market and Development parties.
That is interesting.
This included all minor parties
It kind of sucks that the 3th parties got overshadowed by the Militarist spat, but what can you do?
Treasury could orient entirely towards MARV deployment for a quarter or two, so long as other major commitments were not expanded
Damn, not sure if this is possible.
While Major Stavrakas has still demanded another two fleets in return for her assistance, that one is a much less politically vital project than the three already completed.
I mean, we're still going to do it. None of this hand waving in the hopes of no political repercussions, so no need for threatening demands to the lab nerd Granger. (Alright, we might be behind deploying regular MARVs, but there's no way we can stop.)
 
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Also, I'm glad to see the crazies are getting split from the actually sane ones. I just hope we don't see a repeat of historical events where the crazies getting sectioned out makes them both crazier and more violent.
Yay, a GDI "Cerberus"-style splinter group in the making.

While before Tiberium the population clinging to the walls (and occasionally spilling onto the MARV tracks before being asked to move by GDI officers) would have been called a favela, but in all practicality, it also represents a significant improvement in living conditions.
We often talk about quest-y stuff, but I wanted to praise you for your amazing worldbuilding. This quest really feels like the CnC world, and like a complete world at that. I can imagine reading an article, or even a novel, about the life of a Yellow Zoner in this place.

Thank you for all your hard work, and definitely looking forward to more!
 
[ ] Tiberium Processing Plants (Phase 1)
While initially a low priority, as GDI's economy has been rebuilt, a new wave of Tiberium processing plants is soon to be required, as the Initiative runs into the limits of its surviving processing capabilities. These plants, unlike the refineries, is where the Mobius, and the more recent Mobius-Granger process is carried out, a near endless flow of Tiberium being converted to everything from steel girders to rare earth metals, and the beating heart of the industrial economy. A single wave of these plants will substantially increase GDI's processing capability, and therefore the limits of its Tiberium economy.
(Progress 0/200: 30 resources per die) (+500 processing potential) (--- Energy, -- Logistics)

This needs to be done within the next two quarters. We're running out of capacity, and how many resources we have is the biggest bottleneck towards getting anything done. And it's more relevant with the possibility of underground Tiberium mining. Add in that the military is going to lift the ban on expanding glacier mining once their needs are met, and were going to see our needs for this massively climb in priority, so it's best to get it done now.

While everything else is important, especially getting more dice for us to use in the military once we have the Capital goods for Factory refits, the economy is the backbone that allows us to do everything. I'll support any plan that fits this in, because it will take care of our capacity issue for quite a while.

Remember that the biggest threat to GDI's continued survival is not Nod, but the spread of Tiberium. While the Scrin coming back may change that, until then, combating Tiberium is and should be the number one priority.

Not fighting the political lobbyists who don't understand what needs to be done.

Not playing nice with the idiots who want to focus on the Blue Zones and screw everyone else.

Not entertaining the delusions of the warhawks who want to take all our resources and waste them fighting Nod.

Combating Tiberium.

Anything that deviates from this goal is an obstacle to be surmounted, outmaneuvered, or destroyed.
 
Huh so the Military is asking us to lay off the MARV's and focus on other projects for a turn or two. Or do a major push on MARVS for a turn or two then move onto all the other projects and leave MARVS alone. The question is now will people here actually do that? It's hard enough for us to convince them to spend on a project with no immediate benefits and with the military it's a fight to get all the funding it needs.
 
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Mind, if we don't have enough spare military power, NOD will roflstomp our poor tiberium mining outposts and ruin the whole plan, but short of that, yeah pretty much.

And, of course, Tiberium is ramping up mutation and will steamroll over our abatement unless we hit the SCIENCE button hard enough. (We have WOG that it is pretty much impossible to hit the SCIENCE button hard enough now that we've lost the Tacitus)
 
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This needs to be done within the next two quarters. We're running out of capacity, and how many resources we have is the biggest bottleneck towards getting anything done. And it's more relevant with the possibility of underground Tiberium mining. Add in that the military is going to lift the ban on expanding glacier mining once their needs are met, and were going to see our needs for this massively climb in priority, so it's best to get it done now.

While everything else is important, especially getting more dice for us to use in the military once we have the Capital goods for Factory refits, the economy is the backbone that allows us to do everything. I'll support any plan that fits this in, because it will take care of our capacity issue for quite a while.

Remember that the biggest threat to GDI's continued survival is not Nod, but the spread of Tiberium. While the Scrin coming back may change that, until then, combating Tiberium is and should be the number one priority.

Not fighting the political lobbyists who don't understand what needs to be done.

Not playing nice with the idiots who want to focus on the Blue Zones and screw everyone else.

Not entertaining the delusions of the warhawks who want to take all our resources and waste them fighting Nod.

Combating Tiberium.

Anything that deviates from this goal is an obstacle to be surmounted, outmaneuvered, or destroyed.
Nah, we're fine. Chicago fits in both Abatement and some Refinery Capacity. So just throw Dice at Chicago and we can cover our capacity for this Plan.
 
FloatingWood
#KropotkinsGhost, there's already a space party. The name escapes me right now, but there's a couple of members of parliament that are part of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Developmentalists basically draw them into the fold to make the numbers go upperer.
#YellowZon3r, it's really hard to read sarcasm in a text medium.

AgathaH
#FloatingWood Starbound party represent! SPAAAACE!
[hug]

AccomplishingProvidence
This split is truly fascinating to watch. For those who have been tracking vote records (publicly available under the Historical Records section of the GDI Civilian Administration site, for those curious)...
Or, if you're Kane, you detail an intern to look that stuff up for you. Helps with the appearance of being insanely knowledgeable. :D

What's even more interesting, to me, is the growing set of rumors of potential splits in the Free Market and Development parties. Again, not necessarily unexpected, but still fascinating. My guess is that these movements are ultimately driven by the radically-increased size of the Parliament, which we heard about a few weeks ago.
Hm. if he's right, a split in the Free Market Party could be interesting, but a split in the Developmentalists is troubling because it'll mean we have two groups to appease. Then again, with each of the two halves representing a smaller voteshare, they won't be able to ask for as much individually.

KropotkinsGhost
Ah GDIs top brass fleeing back into space. I hope continued investment happens to reduce the cost of sending people up there. I would love to have that safety and not constantly have tiberium gnawing at the back of my mind.
We're workin' on it we're workin' on it!

Akira Oda (Tiberium Coordination Committee) (Treasury Delegation)
So this is gonna get awkward and while I won't really say anything classified being stuck in the Philadelphia II when the Hawks split has played merry hell to the parliamentary delegation sent to us. So we were talking about the scripted speech each of the delegation would say to the press and that went on well until the question and answer portion came up. You see, this was supposed to be a photo-ops for everyone involved. This included all minor parties with more than one member so standard GDI PR stuff. The problem came when a reporter asked the Hawk delegation on who they would support Al-Jilani or Ozawa of course the speaker said Ozawa and said a lot of talking points I'm really uncomfortable with then another Hawks delegate got pissed when he said he supports Al-Jilani while insulting Ozawa and the speaker. They were in a screaming match during the livestream for Tiberium abatement policies going forward. The reporters were fascinated while everyone else on the station were internally screaming at how this all came crashing down. Then some cheeky reporter mentioned a party-split and that silenced everybody. I am not joking, ten minutes of an isekai protagonist looking at a truck's headlights was what it felt like. Then I went to the podium salvaging the conference by giving progress reports on Chicago, MARVs, and our commitment to provide support for the next round of military procurement and development. Both Hawks delegates are in the brig right now until we can get out of here.
Hahahaha!

AccomplishingProvidence
While it's good to see some breweries working again, I have to say I'll hold off on tasting of the current offerings. I much prefer wine, whiskey, or mead, which are in horrifically short supply in the last couple of decades. I've had a couple of chances to taste more esoteric drinks with a sweeter bent (chocolate and non-grape fruit flavors). Here's hoping we get the fruit of the vine flowing again soon!
...Did we just learn Kane's booze preferences? Good question!

Consumer Goods: Titanic Shortages (-15)
HOLY SHIT, WE DENTED THE CONSUMER GOODS SHORTAGE!

THE METER IS NO LONGER PEGGED AGAINST THE RED LINE!

PARTAAAAAY!

Military
With the continuing spread of the Red and Yellow Zones, paired with the continued levels of investment, the military is prepared to spend lives to continue expanding the defense of the Blue Zones. While not particularly happy with the state of affairs, they are ready to do what they are able, and damn the costs. Functionally, the Military would prefer if MARVs became a smaller portion of military investment, compared to the actual development and deployment of hardware, but in light of the need for more abatement efforts understand the focus. If desired, the Treasury could orient entirely towards MARV deployment for a quarter or two, so long as other major commitments were not expanded.
Well since we want Chicago, we can't just take them up on that...

The first wave of major tidal power plants has completed, but not without a significant hitch. With the installation nearly completed, it was discovered that Tiberium had nested in the turbine blades, meaning that they had to be torn out, and a redesigned model installed, better suited to dealing with Tiberium fragments that were washed up with the tide. Each fragment was microscopic, and unless it was caught in the joins of the turbine, effectively invisible, at least until it began eating into the turbine itself. However, rather than becoming a problem, decisive action from attentive engineers found the problem, and then a solution, before it reached higher than their supervisors, working through the nights to fabricate the new systems. While this work meant that surveys of the Penzhin Tidal Works have not yet begun, it has saved the Treasury from some amount of embarrassment.
Well, glad we figured out the problem in time, and kind of predictable, but what a pain in the ass. :(

[ ] Blue Zone Arcologies (Phase 1)
As a result of the emergent major surplus of housing the Navy has begun mooting the idea of rescue raids. Instead of waiting for refugees to come to the Initiative, hitting coastal areas, laying down temporary infrastructure for an evacuation, and then holding the area while sending out emissaries to nearby settlements to see if they would be willing to evacuate to the Blue Zones. While a complicated operation, more so than most potential options, it also does not require the Initiative to take and hold hostile ground on a permanent basis. However, this would also be a long term effort, one based inherently on naval funding, especially for new waves of cruisers, bombardment monitors, and amphibious assault ships.
Damn, the PR for doing that would be like, the best. Pure glory.

"Hey, we've got spare room in our Blue Zone. Wanna come?"

See, @Void Stalker , this kind of thing is why I'm talking about housing surpluses as a good thing.

The fiber optic system has finally completed just days before the end of the quarter. While working from home has been a relief for some, the most important change has been a substantially greater accessibility of GDI's enormous libraries of TV and movies. In the early 21st century, one of the highest priorities for the Initiative, aside from fighting Tiberium, was ensuring the survival of human culture. Part of this included a number of copyright measures, which gutted the ways that large companies such as Disney, Universal, and others had used to ensure that their material never reached the Public Domain. As a result, there is a free repository of nearly every piece of media published in the last century and a half. With the fiber optic lines installed, a larger percentage of people can access them than ever before, reaching the vast majority of the population. Similarly, games with near zero latency are now possible, leading to spikes in population across nearly every server currently being operated, from the dozens of Warcraft derivatives, to fanforks of hundreds of other MMOs and multiplayer games that have not been left to languish as their parent companies died in the Tiberium Wars.
Yey finally.

The deployment of the first wave of ablat plating has been going well. Mass production has started significantly, and with few real problems. However none of it has yet been sent on to GDI forces. Instead, it is being stockpiled in warehouses, as current production is too irregular to be a reliable source of protection, especially with the ablative nature of the armor. This is slowly being fixed, and current production will serve as a first major wave of armor. One major part of the problem is the nature of the materials. Fragments of carbon nanotube can act similarly to asbestos. While not generally a problem in the field, especially in comparison to laser fire...
@Ithillid , I laughed. Thank you. :)

The first step for the major deployment has been to increase production of effective battery and capacitor packs. This has gone about as expected. Additionally, assemblies have begun to be made for the rapid fire railguns. The next major step is going to be to actually stop production and refit the assembly lines for production of the new units. However, this will have to be done quickly, no more than 6 months, and preferably no more than 3, as stopping the lines will inherently mean that stockpiles of spare parts will begin to be depleted, fairly quickly. With the Talons spread in penny packets protecting high value research installations, significant delays will mean lost research, and potentially lost researchers, neither of which is particularly acceptable to the administration... However, the highest priority is to make the current system widely available, before testing on upgrade packages can begin.
Hm, so having started the Wolverine 3 rollout project, we now cannot afford to stop. Good to know, thanks for the warning.[/quote]
 
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Laser tech can be used for Abatement I believe, cutting sections off glaciers when we can no longer shatter them with sonics for example, and if Tib is focusing on mutating to combat sonics, Lasers might be able to provide a cushion of mutation resistant abatement. At least until it starts mutating to resist lasers too.
 
I'd say Standard MARVs
Regular MARV fleets are a waste of investment compared to Super MARVs.

By comparing the Super MARV vs the regular MARV, at 210/160 = 1.31 times the cost, the Super MARVs give 3/2 = 1.5 times the abatement along with 25/15 = 1.66 times the income. It's not worth making regular MARV fleet that would take up the spot of one of the 5 MARV fleets that people probably wouldn't want to make more of after already finishing 5 just to protect a region. That's what regular military investment is for instead.

Thus a slower deployment by shifting less dices to the MARV fleet deployment and more dices to other military deployment that are more useful for the goal of protecting people would be more preferable and logical than trying to roll a less cost efficient MARV fleet out to do the same job.

If you're going to make a MARV fleet, make it a Super, or else it's wasting the investment and the purpose it was built for, which was not as a defender of population groups, and more as an independent force that is capable of pushing back Tiberium and Nod even in the most dangerous Red Zones on the planet.
 
"When this Initiative was founded three score years ago, it was called the Global Defense Initiative. Not an initiative to protect the rich, or to define itself by the amount of protection it already provided for the people, but a global one, for all the people. We cannot be a wall telling all beyond it to turn back, but an outreached hand. We cannot consign people to death for the accident of their birth, or the failings of the Initiative of the past. We must fight, for all mankind, and for one globe." - Mohammed Al Jilani (Speech Extract: Founding Day Ceremonies)

This is really good. This is the kind of stuff that would make me want to vote for this person. Well done.
 
Mind, if we don't have enough spare military power, NOD will roflstomp our poor tiberium mining outposts and ruin the whole plan, but short of that, yeah pretty much.

And, of course, Tiberium is ramping up mutation and will steamroll over our abatement unless we hit the SCIENCE button hard enough.

And that why I view Nod as an obstacle. I do support expanding the military, but not without expanding the economy to support everything else we need, and without expanding capacity, we're going to hit a brick wall within two or three quarters.

And research will help with abetment, but how will we fund that without resources that we get from mining Tiberium?

There's also the problem that, up to this point, everyone had been ignoring the options in the bureaucracy section besides security reviews. Even though these options

[ ] Expand Strategic Planning Apparatus
With the many aims of the Initiative, being able to effectively plan in advance is a requirement. While this will inherently require substantially more resources to be allocated towards this planning, it will also provide more information on longer term project requirements.
(Progress 0/100) (--- Capital Goods)

[ ] Interdepartmental Communication Initiative
With GDI's other departments on the move, taking more effort to prepare for their actions and how to better coordinate priorities should improve interdepartmental harmony, and the ability of the Initiative as a whole to operate.
(DC 90) (offers indicators which projects are of high priority to other departments.)

could give us potentially vital information that we are making decision without. Yes, making sure Nod infitrators don't get in is important, but we should have the option to set up an organization to handle that for us, instead of having to waste bureaucracy dice running security reviews on one department, per quarter. It's laughably inefficient for what we need, which is to have security reviews covering ALL departments every quarter without us having to do anything.
 
Okay, I am swapping my view point on cruiser to put that into dev Q4 and dropping MARV dice to 2 for RZ 7 North for Chicago support. Also that Hawk split. New options will be interesting to see such as the followup for tiberium mining. Also we dropped by 5 points in consumer good shortage! We are finally turning the corner. I am thinking 7-8 dice in mil (5 base and 2-3 free) which means 5 or 6 on projects (ablat, wolverine, cruiser, laser and orca refits are my current thoughts).
From the sound of it, as far as strategic concerns go, we need an actual MARV fleet in the new South American hub much more than we need a MARV hub in Chicago. That hub is likely to draw Nod aggression pretty fast. If nothing else, whoever's in command down there probably wants to prove to the locals that GDI can't protect them. And, not being an idiot, they'd prefer to do this while "prove GDI can't protect them" doesn't involve marching up to an armada of land battleships and challenging them to a game of Irish stand-down, because nobody wins a game of Irish stand-down with a MARV.

Okay, narrative makes me want 5A fleet way more.
Yeah. The resource payoff for an entirely new Red Zone MARV fleet might be higher, but the strategic payoff of getting new inroads in South America sounds pretty nice.

I think they either like the restaurant grants we've done, or have noticed how happy the voters are with the wave of Consumer Goods (-15 now!) we've rolled out, and are shifting with the actual electorate.
Yeah. Or they might just be a single-issue beer voter who swore to make whatever compromises were necessary to bring beer back.

Slow-rolling a MARV fleet for the Yellow Zone might not be a bad idea to protect the refugees. I'd say Standard MARVs, since the main thing we want for the 5a Fleet is protection of refugees, not outright Abatement, and the Super-MARV doesn't give that much additional combat power (and it means the refugee protection is rolled out faster.)

But if we do that, yeah, it needs an extra Free Die so we're not cutting into our other Military Projects.
I dunno whether we should go Standard or Super; it depends on what the expected RpT payoff is. It's quite possible that the payoff balance is something like 10 RpT for Standard or 20 RpT for Super in a Yellow Zone, and in that case the return on investment from the Super MARV fleet starts looking really good.

We need to focus our military projects on the Steel Talons and Navy. We've got all the other branches to Decent confidence. Now we need to fix the Talons and Navy.

I'd like to emphasize again that the Steel Talons are DARPA with teeth. The military forces they have are for live testing of equipment and protection of their facilities. And as they are DARPA, that includes protection of scientists. Remember that the Talons made up a significant part of the Cheyenne Mountain garrison. We've been lucky enough that Nod hasn't tried serious attempts to get at our scientists but we need to increase funding to the Talons whenever we can do so.
While I'd like to at least finish our current dangling project for Phase 1 of the anti-laser ablatives rollout, I can see the value in taking a turn to hammer on a bunch of Steel Talons and naval projects.

Just bear in mind that as we continue expanding Chicago or pushing out into South America, we'll start putting strain on the regular Ground Forces and ZOCOM again, and their ability to handle the current situation may start to wobble.
 
Nah, we're fine. Chicago fits in both Abatement and some Refinery Capacity. So just throw Dice at Chicago and we can cover our capacity for this Plan.

I can see the Abatement, but where are you getting Capacity from? Tiberium is processed at Processing Plants, and I don't see any hints that we'll get capacity from getting the planned city.

I still support it, but where are you getting info about Capacity?
 
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