I cannot possibly imagine any scenario in which I am happier to learn that all the hard work we put into the ICS (both in doing it, and in convincing people to do it) will start to become obsolete within the next 5-10 in-game years.

:D
 
Eh. Keep in mind that portal tech is most likely a Sequel quest thing because it's probably ridiculously expensive and finicky and not suited for wide scale deployment for at least a decade or more.
 
Regular logistics will still be needed, especially ICS. Standardized shipping with ICS containers make throughput better. But it's not the on-planet logistics that will benefit most.

It's the off-planet logistics.

EDIT: Testing the output of the dice roller.
AntiSanity threw 4 10-faced dice. Reason: Testing things Total: 17
4 4 8 8 2 2 3 3
 
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I cannot possibly imagine any scenario in which I am happier to learn that all the hard work we put into the ICS (both in doing it, and in convincing people to do it) will start to become obsolete within the next 5-10 in-game years.

:D
Regular logistics will still be needed, especially ICS. Standardized shipping with ICS containers make throughput better. But it's not the on-planet logistics that will benefit most.

It's the off-planet logistics.
Yeah, the portals bigger than a pinhole are still expensive as fuck. On the other hand, FTL comms are going to be immediately available and that's incredibly fucking bullshit.
 
Portals are (at first) ridiculously expensive in both power and STUs to the point where I doubt it'll make too much of a difference to our logistics in the short term. In the long term on the other hand? Hoo boy, instant FTL comms to planets in completely different systems is just one use
 
You know what's crazy about Scrin tech? The Scrin that came to earth were just wildcat miners here for the Tib and not actually the Scrin military or anything of any note and we still get the tech is still this bullshit.
 
Hey knowing the most optimal way to stack boxes and stuff is still good to know.
Quite so. Plus, a lot of the work that goes into the ICS is going to be about tracking goods and optimizing them. I imagine a surprising amount of the software that goes into the global logistics management system will still be relevant in the portal era, simply because it makes it a lot easier to coordinate movement around and reprogramming it to recognize that there now exists a mechanism for rapidly moving a shipping container from A to B in ten milliseconds is easy-ish-ish.

Yeah, the portals bigger than a pinhole are still expensive as fuck. On the other hand, FTL comms are going to be immediately available and that's incredibly fucking bullshit.
True to an extent. It lets you easily operate a drone on Mars from a base on Earth, for example. On the other hand, we don't actually have that much presence outside the Earth-Moon system for purposes where light speed lag is much of a problem, aside from applications like "tele-operate a drone on Mars or in the asteroid belt from a base on Earth."

It does mean that we have more incentive to actually send expeditions out to Mars and the asteroids because we can coordinate extensive drone operations out there from a base on Earth. So one project that gets promoted to higher priority is the Conestoga-class. Because we can now think much more easily about setting up sizeable bases on Mars or stations in the asteroid belt that will be assembled by drones coordinated from a "hub" satellite/station/base that has a tiny portal connection back to Earth for the Wifi signal...

But the main obstacle in establishing such bases is physically getting them out there, and having only one G-drive ship for the purpose is a pain in the ass. So we need the Conestogas as soon as practicable, which is a damn good argument for spending some Free dice to finish up our Plan commitments in space sooner, so that we can afford to work on the Conestogas some time in 2061 when we have the RpT budget to seriously consider doing it.

...

(Though I'm still hoping that we can develop a second-generation set of fusion rocket craft that don't require STUs to manufacture and are capable of continuous low-acceleration burns. This would be an acceptable substitute to the G-drive for non-urgent 'space freighter' operations. We have continuous cycle fusion reactors on Earth, so hopefully this technology is just gated behind superconductor fabricators and some time. But that, too, requires us to be able and willing to spend 30 R/die on a major project, so see above)
 
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I mean, having something to spend STU's is great. So bring it on. Must be hellaciously power intensive though.
Yes.
I literally expect multiple fusion plants necessary to operate each portal, even disregarding the STU's.
And we have a lot of projects that will need transuranics - everything that needs grav tech does.
 
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So, first off:
This was a triumph.

Second:
(Though I'm still hoping that we can develop a second-generation set of fusion rocket craft that don't require STUs to manufacture and are capable of continuous low-acceleration burns. This would be an acceptable substitute to the G-drive for non-urgent 'space freighter' operations. We have continuous cycle fusion reactors on Earth, so hopefully this technology is just gated behind superconductor fabricators and some time. But that, too, requires us to be able and willing to spend 30 R/die on a major project, so see above)
See plans in SCEDquest. Both have a 75% chance of completing a Mark 2 fusion engine, although getting that ready for wider-spread deployment may be a while.
 
[X] Plan Heist + Lunar Base Go!
He3-extraction Experiments 44/100
Helium is one of the most volatile elements and with the tiny amount of He-3 present in lunar regolith even small losses in absolute numbers are comparatively large. Current extraction experiments so far have not yielded the desired efficiency and many proposed methods have either been discarded or require further testing, refinement and experimentation.
:lol2::rofl2: Okay you do know that Helium is a noble gas right. It is highly nonreactive which is the exact opposite of volatile for an element. This was a nice joke BOT, but what is the real problem with the extraction this time?
 
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I'm just giggling at how easy evacuating people off Earth just got.

Set up a colony on the Moon or Mars, open a pressurized portal, bring in the colonists.
 
[X] Plan Heist + Lunar Base Go!
:lol2::rofl2: Okay you do know that Helium is a noble gas right. It is highly nonreactive which is the exact opposite of volatile for an element. This was a nice joke, but what is the real problem with the extraction this time?
It is not volatile in sense of being explosive, but in sense of being fleeting. He-atoms are extremely small, even if He3 atoms are insignificantly bigger. It is actually a huge problem to not let He escape in any industrial or even scientific application. It has the tendency to evaporate at any seal, and even escape through insufficiently thick solid tubes and ducts.
 
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See plans in SCEDquest. Both have a 75% chance of completing a Mark 2 fusion engine, although getting that ready for wider-spread deployment may be a while.
My understanding of the Mark 2 fusion engine is less 'can maintain continuous acceleration', and more 'can easily repeat short bursts of Delta-V "Yes"'. It's an iterative improvement on the reusability of the existing platforms rather than refactoring things for a different paradigm.
 
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