Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
On the 100 rumor mill roll: could it have to do with hippogriffs and their magic? Aren't the first generation coming of age soon? It'd certainly be coincidental for the first gen hippogriffs hitting a magical convergence just as the Imperial magic college is completed.
I mean democracy isn't inherently preferable to a monarchy, especially when the Empire is peaceful, tolerant, beloved and extremely wealthy and the Republic isn't completely democratic, fractured and the quality of life differs depending on which city state you live in
To be fair the nobles are involved because we let them be and to minimise the crimes and the people are no more separated into classes than they were before, if anything the class divide is minimised by the ability of common folk to reach the wealth and status of nobility
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- Italy
and Alicorn, from what we've seen in the show, ALSO are their own thing and can breed true (Flurry Heart)... except that ponies can sometime ascend to that status.
We don't know how many heavenly dragons exist asleep. We don't know if they started as heavenly dragons.
We know they're different, and Questor mentioned they're a bit like Alicorns compared to normal ponies. It's COMPLETELY possible that they were originally ancient "normal" dragons which managed to ascend, Alicorn style (plus the descendants of the originally ascended ones).
...on a secondary note, is there any chance the Elements of Harmony might be able to remove the sleeping curse from them? Something we might want to mention with Koryu for his own negotiations with Equestria, maybe.
Even if he doesn't want to go with that, I imagine that he has thought about researching ways to awaken them, and checking the status of magical knowledge in Equestria and see if there's anything they can do about it makes sense. Same for checking on the progress of magical knowledge through the decades, maybe some future development might help... like, in the far future, our runes.
...hey @Questor, any chance for a "check the dragons' curse and see if there's any hope of doing something about it? Like, maybe Orichalcum can weaken it, for example, allowing them to wake up (but also suppressing their powers, for example).
To be fair, many immigrants are likely to come with not much to their name, hoping to get lucky... but still, we're rich enough that we should easily be able to take actions focused on making use of the immigrants and making sure they're in good conditions. We don't even know how many we're going to get!
Of course we might want to wait a turn or two anyway, to see what happens about Maretonia. If we get an annexation we'll be pretty busy with them... though, on the other hand, immigrants could join the rebuilding efforts. There's certainly going to be a lot of work for everyone...
Considering the plan voted this turn left the Summit for next year so Maretonia could self-marinade for a while and get their overall political positions together while we bolster our economy to prepare for economic issues the continued distortions and foreign aide are causing, I think it would also be wholly thematic if one or more sides of the Maretonian disunity were internally co-opted by more Empire-friendly folks, GM decision depending how far.
We will see soon enough I suppose, unless Questor wants to give us a hint?
Lurking_Badger
Cheese Enjoyer
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- Wisconsin
There is also the problem that democracy, monarchy, empire, and a whole bunch of other political systems aren't exclusive to each other.
A Democratic Monarchy/Constitutional Monarchy has a monarch that has some powers and a parliamentary body with other powers. The position of monarch is inherited but parliament members are voted on. The amount of power each side has varies.
A Democratic Empire is internally democratic, people vote on the next emperor or representative or whatever, but work externally as an empire, follow a single empirical law when dealing with outside powers. Rome was one of these at one point (as well as many other government types.)
There is also the problem of voting bases and representation. You can have a democracy were only a select few people vote. You can have a republic were some demographic never gets a representative.
TLDR: Political systems are completely made up, so you can mix and match different policies and structures. Wikipedia has a LONG list of government forms.
If celestial dragons were ascended from earth dragons they wouldn't lack the brute power, and bat-like wings of the earth breed. If they are related odds are the relationship is more that of the unicorn or pegasus to the earth pony, than of alicorn to the same.
An ascended dragon would have both of their powers and traits, something akin to the grandest of god-wyrms.
An ascended dragon would have both of their powers and traits, something akin to the grandest of god-wyrms.
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we don't really know how the celestial dragons stand in terms of raw strenght. I THINK we were told they look like eastern dragons, but that in and of itself doesn't necessarily mean much.
Originally I thought the same, that they were the unicorn (or pegasus, seeing as eastern dragons are usually pictured as having power over the weather) to the "earth dragon", but I think it was then that Questor said basically "more like Alicorn to normal pony", which made me think of the possibility of ascension.
In the end we just don't know much about them. We know they're powerful, cursed by Discord, few in numbers, creators of the Qilin... and that's it.
The rest is speculation. Though I wonder if breaking the curse is an option long term.
All this talk of celestial dragons is making me think of One Piece and now I'm just wondering what species the Straw Hats would be
Nami would be a Pegasus (because Weather-Manipulation).
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- Very very lost
That is long way into the future first we need to get more changelings on our side
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- Very very lost
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
I dont think there's a unifyed plan. My idea is blast the hive with the cristal hearth chaging the changeling on a fundamental level. We have a God rock and dam me if we wont use it.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
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- Tennessee
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- He/Him
If it works like a bee hive, we'd just need to remove the queen and replace her with another. So long as the new queen is compatible and not rejected by the hive everything should be fine.
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- Italy
Yeah, I always feel a bit dirty talking well of Celestial dragons due to it...
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- Warsaw
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- They/Their
That is assuming that the Magic God Rock of Love doesn't accidentally supercharge the Changelings, or delena ests them out of reality.
But more to the point, do we IC know how to weaponize the God Rock.
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- NJ
Should we get some safety built for the workers as well, and perhaps make sure no bosses are trying to cheat workers as well.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Nope but we know that cristay piety actions make it more powerfull and the wizzard are extremely intrested on studing the god rock.
Scrivener
The Femme In Yellow
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- Don't Leave Me Here You Bastards
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- She/Her/They
GARRICK - I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I'm not the Messiah! Do you understand? Honestly!
IMPERIAL CULTIST - Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!
GARRICK - What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right, I am the Messiah!
IMPERIAL CULTISTS - He is! He is the Messiah!
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
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- Florida
We definitely need a crossover omake with an ascended Garrick commiserating with the TTSD!Emperor over people conflating them with divinity. Would be hilarious to read.