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- Very very lost
Well all the ponies except moonbutt don't want them so why not take them?The moment we hear about threstals, we already are talking about assimilating them.
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
- Thread starter Questor
- Start date
lockingbane
If you're crazy and you know it clap your hands!
- Location
- Waxahachie tx
I feel your pain Questor. In the middle of moving house myself and, tbh, i hate it.
Thr amount of stuff you need to do is mind numbing
JmonsterNEO
Spouter of nonsense
- Location
- The quest forums
On the Thestrals, does this mean that Fluttershy is part Thestral and the whole 'Flutterbat' debacle temporarily awakened those genes due to magical shenanigans? (In the context of this universe, of course)
- Location
- Where I an right now
That is so far down the line, we need to get to turn 1000+ for it to matter
- Location
- Texas
Both of those are Martial actions, and unless you want to use up both personal actions for it, that's not going to happen next turn. Both martial slots are taken up by something that takes two years to complete.
JmonsterNEO
Spouter of nonsense
- Location
- The quest forums
The idea just popped into my head and I wanted to get it out, darn the sheer amount of time between now and FiM.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
To be fair Neighpon did fought sombra with us like the yaks sucha massive war probably make them on the same page as us. Same thing for the Yaks.
Yep. Not because she is duping the hole kingdom on the geopolitical center of the world but because she is a terrible ruler, like her polices are what sombra's tactics are to military strategies, flawed on a conceptual level, she dont see any ruler as a peers and just go for betrayal on the first opportunity. Better we Blast the Hive with the the crustal heart and changing their dietary needs with a dose of empathy for good measure.
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- Location
- Maryland
In the vast majority of instances, the rolls are for specific events. Whether or not a certain threshold is met determines whether or not the event triggers. The only exception to this rule are the natural 100s, which denote a special event I can't plan for in advance. It's always beneficial, but exactly what kind of beneficial event it is will vary depending on the circumstances.
You literally just gained access to their markets. Give it time, they'll come around eventually.
Koryu does not send letters through his fire, he sends them via regular post…it may be possible for him to use his magic to convey his messages, but if it is he doesn't use it for regular, non-emergency correspondence.
There has yet to be a recorded instance of a Heavenly Dragon and an Earth Dragon cross breeding. That said there's no evidence to suggest it can't happen.
Speculating as to the parenthood of characters who won't be born for centuries is a rabbit hole I don't wish to go down outside of non-canon omakes.
Again, as previously mentioned, Heavenly Dragons and Earth Dragons are quite similar to each other on a biological level, similar to comparing regular ponies to Alicorns.
I am uncertain as to what you mean by "how they interbreed" or "how hippogriffs work". Typically a mixed race couple love each other very much and one thing leads to another.
Red_Faux
私を終わらせる
- Location
- 'Straya M8
Nah, a stork drops them off from Ciconiland. They got a baby factory over there
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I am bouncing between giving this post "Informative" or "Funny".
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
Seems unnecessary and could posssibly have unintended negative consequences in the background. We've been getting constant war refugees-turned-immigrant for decades and literally had to expand our agricultural field twice to ensure we had enough food. That tells me that while we are likely nowhere near max capacity, that we are still fairly well-up on population growth and don't really "need" more right now.
Also, I'm pretty sure that might be a generic repeatable action so it's not like doing it will make it go away or something.
Eww, no. Like, I know that ship's been joked about a lot, but I just find it to be all kinds of "no."
- Location
- Germany
Honestly, if we can integrate the THestrals somehow, I want them to culturally follow after that "Trotsylvania" concept someone posted way back, with Blood Magic and stuff.
- Location
- Maryland
This is amazing. I absolutely love Omakes like this, where the events of the Quest are treated historically. +20 to a roll.
Can I just say that this whole quest has been a rollercoaster of sudden threats, followed by dice nuking them into oblivion?
The griffons were supposed to be the hard mode choice - and in a way they were, given their starting position and all. However, we ended up lucking out in that dice and our own choices gave us the right allies at the right time to counter our enemies, or we managed to cripple our enemies' own powerbase.
If the dice hadn't rolled as they did, we would've had a neighbor of crystal ponies to the south of us, yaks to the west of us and Canterburry to the south-west of us. The player-base generally didn't want to become murdering, conquering asshats, so if all those would've rolled high enough to at least stay neutral, we would've stayed a technologically developing, but magically stunted, luxury-starved and roadblocked Empire for a long while until either someone broke one of our neighbors or we figured out the changelings and we used that as a pretext to psyche ourselves up for alandgrab liberation.
Instead, we got Sombra doing his best Sauron impression before getting chokeslammed repeatedly until he broke.
As horrible as it IC/within the setting the enslavement and destruction of Crystal Empire was, we can't but admit OOC the power vacuum he left behind allowed us to move in and acquire a core pop that will have access to a racial specialty magic others likely won't ever be able to field in number. It allowed us access to more land to develop, mineral wealth to exploit and honed both our military machine and intelligence apparatus into a fine edge- and then it's immediately followed by another opponent that is Maretonia and we do it again!
This is a fun, well-developed quest and story, but the dice just looked at the "Hard Mode" tag at the start of the thread and whispered "No - bonus ducks!"
The griffons were supposed to be the hard mode choice - and in a way they were, given their starting position and all. However, we ended up lucking out in that dice and our own choices gave us the right allies at the right time to counter our enemies, or we managed to cripple our enemies' own powerbase.
If the dice hadn't rolled as they did, we would've had a neighbor of crystal ponies to the south of us, yaks to the west of us and Canterburry to the south-west of us. The player-base generally didn't want to become murdering, conquering asshats, so if all those would've rolled high enough to at least stay neutral, we would've stayed a technologically developing, but magically stunted, luxury-starved and roadblocked Empire for a long while until either someone broke one of our neighbors or we figured out the changelings and we used that as a pretext to psyche ourselves up for a
Instead, we got Sombra doing his best Sauron impression before getting chokeslammed repeatedly until he broke.
As horrible as it IC/within the setting the enslavement and destruction of Crystal Empire was, we can't but admit OOC the power vacuum he left behind allowed us to move in and acquire a core pop that will have access to a racial specialty magic others likely won't ever be able to field in number. It allowed us access to more land to develop, mineral wealth to exploit and honed both our military machine and intelligence apparatus into a fine edge- and then it's immediately followed by another opponent that is Maretonia and we do it again!
This is a fun, well-developed quest and story, but the dice just looked at the "Hard Mode" tag at the start of the thread and whispered "No - bonus ducks!"
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- Location
- Italy
If we consider Heavenly Dragons basically "ascended dragons", like Alicorns and normal ponies, or changeling royals vs drones (and the hippogryph/seapony queen looked suspiciously bigger than her subjects, though it might just have been the effect of her magical pearl... which is, now that I think about it, an artifact potentially on the level of the crystal heart if not above it), my guess is that it can happen.
I mean, Cadance and Shining armor had Flurry Heart...
products come without a warranty and take many years and lots of investment to actually become somewhat satisfying (if you're lucky), 1/10.
I don't think it's a repeatable action. It's probably mostly setting up the appropriate laws and customs to facilitate immigration, so it makes sense it would be a one-off with lasting effects on our society.
about needing it or not... maybe? I don't think it would hurt, and there's many things the coming immigrants would likely be better (on average) than our people. The ponies' special magics are all invaluable, but Neighponese traits (firebending, oni strenght, illusion magics) also open a LOT of options.
Yaks and emerald Dogs are somewhat less useful, but while they don't bring anything unique to their race they can still help. Yaks are much stronger than the average pony/gryphon/dog, we could always use more diggers for our mines in the crystal protectorate or to expand our towns, or even to dig canals for irrigation...
Also, depending on what happens with Maretonia, those immigrants could also help in there if we end up annexing it. Rebuilding would require, for example, a lot of work, which would well suit Yaks, Dogs and Oni.
I'm not sure what the Minotaurs bring to the table other than above average strenght and size (presumably lower than Oni, though I think they're also far smarter on average). Probably culture of the "classical" kind, and maybe merchant ability? We don't quite need it, but every little bit helps.
Both countries share borders with them, so the same distance but in different directions.
She's paranoid enough to send her daughters on suicide missions out of fear they'll replace her and has intentionaly kept her lands infested with monsters to keep her worshipers dependent on her for protection. She doesn't even trust her own people, so I doubt she would honor any agreement made with us. She'd be more likely to panic at the mere thought that we know about her and immediately go to war.
This might be a better idea since us knowing about changelings wouldn't neccesarily mean we know about Phalynx and her cult. It would be less likely to start a war and would weaken Phalanx's cult by showing her followers that they have other options. Much like how contact with us forced her to erradicate the monsters in her territory, another changeling hive that can openly live in our society might pressure her to prepare for disclosure with Canterbury's citizens. She seems intellegent enough to realize that her own changelings might resent having to hide when ours don't have to.
Good Idea, we also might be able spend a personal action to start writting letters to Luna. We had a similar experience integrating diamond dogs who most of our people thought to be nothing more than vicious animals when we first came into contact with them. If we learn more about her situation we might be able to offer her advice on how to better integrate the thestrals.
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- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
That's explicitly not what it is about
It's a campaign to encourage immigration to our Empire. Nothing more, nothing less.
And like I said, these things always have unintended consequences. There's a LOT of bad that could start up in the background if we begin getting immigrants at a rate faster than our administrative capacity can handle it, both to the immigrants themselves and how it affects our society at large. What seems like a bonus now can turn in to a curse if you don't pay attention to the narrative it takes place in. Like, I remember in PoC we kept getting non-stop immigrants to the point that many got lost in the system or were otherwise brutally collectivised out of existence without us realizing because we only saw what the people on top would actively see.
While I don't think something on that nature will happen here, there is a real concern you should be taking into account what could happen if we keep pushing immigration when we're already constantly at capacity for integration due to refugees. We don't get a view of what happens on the ground to people often outside of rumors because we are the government of the Empire. Anything below the notice of the upper echelons of the government is something we won't be told, like how you guys were surprised to find out organized crime exists in our empire.
Not sure we'd appeal to minotaurs, given the whole empire vs. democracy thing.
No, celestials are a true breeding species with it's own distinct hybrids.
- Location
- Italy
eh, there's ALWAYS organized crime. It shouldn't have been a surprise at all.
At least it's relatively tame
extremely limited democracy if I remember correctly, as not all minotaurs actually have citizenship, while all of our people do.
technically speaking our people have on average more rights than theirs I think.
technically we don't know that.
We know of exactly ONE natural-born heavenly dragon, Koryu. and, for alicorns, there's flurry heart in canon.
We don't know if the other dragons were all BORN as heavenly ones. We don't know if normal dragons can ascend.
A valid interpretation could be that while Alicorn and Heavenly dragons can have alicorn children, ponies and normal dragons also have the potential to ascend in special circumstances, and possibly the first of each "ascended race" has their origin in a member of the "lower" race.
I'm gonna write another one about the Battle of Redstone-Pass soon.
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
It shouldn't have been, no, but it's the perfect example of how our actions affect more than just what we see. The nobles themselves are involved in organized crime, the people are separating into classes due to the rapid change in the economy, etc. All these things are to be expected knowing history, but they are also things we aren't told. That's not a complaint, so much as a warning that you need to take into account more than just what the mechanics award us.
We've been told multiple times in-story and by Questor that the heavenly dragons are their own thing, and we know of multiple heavenly dragons. Koryu is just the only one that isn't cursed to be asleep 99% of the time.