Jam jar binks
Thing Futzer
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its magic, boom. Also it could be sapient.
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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Jam jar binks
Thing Futzer
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k then, lets assume that it just for some reason wanted this to happen. it would take no more effort to make everything work, than it would to just leave it as a infertile crossbreed.
Also, Magic God Rock. We don't know if it is based on thought or not. Because its A Magic God Rock of love.
Also, Magic God Rock. We don't know if it is based on thought or not. Because its A Magic God Rock of love.
There is one thing that seems to have not been considered here yet. Why would the empire not already be doing some degree of research? I mean, unless our Medicare is anemic and/or no means whatsoever to non-invasively study the body, there should be some people already doing some research as to be able to properly care for them. I mean, we can't control every aspect, so I guess the question is if stuff is already being done in the background, and/or if we might get an action to improve whatever medical system we currently have. 🤷♂️
Lurking_Badger
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Well, from what I can tell, the only medical institution that we have is The Office of Disease Control built on Turn 10 (20 years ago.) I'm sure that more medical knowledge has been discovered over that time, maybe even enough for a restructuring, and that more medical services are needed for a growing population. This makes the creation of a larger medical institution a good idea.
Some sort of government medical systems/boards to regulate things, a medical education/research institution, and citizen health records would be good. If we are going to be going to war and be a technologically adapt empire, we need healthy citizens. I don't want people getting the black lung from mining coal or some other horrible affliction from eating wrongly processed food. It is going to be lots of bureaucracy, but good record keeping is required for an empire to run.
Edit: Just realized that we probably don't have any licensed medical professionals because there is no institution to give someone a medical license.
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We should have a medical university built than
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That seems absurd to me. There's no state-run medical organization that controls the entire medical field. But it'd be absurd to think an empire as big and populous as ours doesn't have some form of medical school. The empire still being on an archaic doctor/apprenticeship system just doesn't compute for me.
It could be a whole guild situation, where the masters all keep their personal remedies secret except to the ones they teach but are happy to spread about the common cures
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I don't know why but I have the feeling martonia will have an hitter expy
Jam jar binks
Thing Futzer
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we could avoid that by not fucking maretonia over post war, like what the british did to germany
Hey guys I just realized in the fallout omake that Gryphus could of gotten the other nations leaders to join them in their shelter because of how bullshit their intelligence are of course
Considering in that universe just how insane most of the leadership would of been why would they want them, remember this is fallout even Celestia and Luna went off the deep end with mass experimentation and culling on non Ponies
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Not applicable one to one maretonia was a civil war, Gryphus itself har minimal participation on a oficial capacity. We can tforce any economical sanction on them, and its not of out best intrest since theres a dragon kingdom south of them and gryphus can make use of a buffer state.
I can see the racism aginst pegassi skyrocketing trough
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Wait emperor what's-it-face is a dragon that can breath fire that send letters
Spike is also a dragon that can breath fire that sends letters
Is Spike a heavenly dragon?
Spike is also a dragon that can breath fire that sends letters
Is Spike a heavenly dragon?
No he's an earth one because he's has connections to greed growth the heavenly ones were put to eternal sleep
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But how is he sending letters through his fire?
Actually can Heavenly and earth dragons have kids?
is Spike emperor Koryù's kid or like him had his egg found after the curse?
How dose dragon biology work?!
Are Heavenly and earth dragons just subspecies of dragons or two entirely different species?!
How do to ponies interbreed?!
And We still don't know how Hippogriffs work!
We need answers @Questor, please give some of them to us!
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Another point to disrupt everything:
Down is a direction, we have sent no explorers into the middle or deep dark, nor explored the upper dark outside our borders.
Furthermore I'm not sure we have counter-sap or underground defenses outside the ones on our diamond towns.
So, you know, we have no idea what's going on beneath the surface of most of our maps.
Down is a direction, we have sent no explorers into the middle or deep dark, nor explored the upper dark outside our borders.
Furthermore I'm not sure we have counter-sap or underground defenses outside the ones on our diamond towns.
So, you know, we have no idea what's going on beneath the surface of most of our maps.
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That take more precedence than my questions, We should fix that next time we can
Lurking_Badger
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Knowing our luck, we will dig down and find a kingdom of (hostile) demons or Tambelon.
Also, every single time anyone has any new ideas my brain goes directly to government institutions and bureaucracy. We need to do a comprehensive land survey of the empire to find out where everything is and who actually owns what. At the same time, geological records can be made so mines and/or Diamond Dog settlements can be put down. All of that requires a bureau of land management and cartography to handle everything.
This is what we get for going from a medieval society to a technologically advanced empire in about 20 years. All of these new institutions and bureaucracy offices that need to be made to insure the proper running of the empire. Maybe we can get Gawain to help with that since he is likely to be the diplomacy/stewardship emperor.
Neighpon on Gryphus: Good neighbors, may in fact be half humming bird though.
Yakyakistan on Gryphus: Trust them more than any other outsiders, and probably more than some of the less intelligent cousins, but cannot sit still. Will send calming recipes, all that stress not good for spines.
Crystal Protectorate on Gryphus: Our second biggest religion is the imperial cult, what do you think our opinion is?
Emerald Dogs on Gryphus: We're mostly surprised they exist, I mean the Neighponese were fantastic enough, but it turns our their buddies are bird-lions who are pack with our once lost cousins. It sounds like pup story.
Republics on Gryphus: They exist, they don't like Maretonia, and they're willing to trade.
Olenia on Gryphus: They're a bit too chummy with the dogs and those Neighponese assholes, but they have the guns and the allies and the gold, and they're willing to walk us through how to get those things from them... even if it does involve far too much farming.
Maretonia on Gryphus: Oh no, what are they doing now?
Yetis on Gryphus: What the fuck hit us?
Libertallia on Gryphus: At least they're polite, well paying overlords.
Equestria on Gryhus: ... Clearly we've been lazy.
Gryphus on Gryphus: AHHHHHHHHHHH! WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO DO AND NOT ENOUGH TIME OR MONEY! BUILD MORE INFRASTRUCTURE! TRADE MORE THINGS!
Yakyakistan on Gryphus: Trust them more than any other outsiders, and probably more than some of the less intelligent cousins, but cannot sit still. Will send calming recipes, all that stress not good for spines.
Crystal Protectorate on Gryphus: Our second biggest religion is the imperial cult, what do you think our opinion is?
Emerald Dogs on Gryphus: We're mostly surprised they exist, I mean the Neighponese were fantastic enough, but it turns our their buddies are bird-lions who are pack with our once lost cousins. It sounds like pup story.
Republics on Gryphus: They exist, they don't like Maretonia, and they're willing to trade.
Olenia on Gryphus: They're a bit too chummy with the dogs and those Neighponese assholes, but they have the guns and the allies and the gold, and they're willing to walk us through how to get those things from them... even if it does involve far too much farming.
Maretonia on Gryphus: Oh no, what are they doing now?
Yetis on Gryphus: What the fuck hit us?
Libertallia on Gryphus: At least they're polite, well paying overlords.
Equestria on Gryhus: ... Clearly we've been lazy.
Gryphus on Gryphus: AHHHHHHHHHHH! WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO DO AND NOT ENOUGH TIME OR MONEY! BUILD MORE INFRASTRUCTURE! TRADE MORE THINGS!
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Lurking_Badger
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I believe that Gryphus actually has the second largest economy in the world right now (based on a QM post.) I don't know who has the first, but we need to meet them to make more money. The government created the first central bank, likely in the world, in order for the economy to keep growing. We've literally changed the whole economic landscape of several nations just so they have better economies for more trade.
If this was the game Civilization, I would expect Gryphus to have the world's largest army but win through an economic victory. I guess this is what you get when your first emperor is a merchant.
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I hope someone dose another nega quest
anyone who ask why I don't do it myself read this dumpster fire
anyone who ask why I don't do it myself read this dumpster fire
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Gladly. Thank you for showing interest. I am always willing to help along those who don't know and are wiling to keep themselves up-to-date for the sake of the argument, even if you do ultimately disagree.
No problem. It's understandable. I just want people to start taking up my offers to ask when they don't know or are unclear of what I am referencing, or use the links* I used to provide when basing my argument on top of something else I've previously said
How to Colonize: The basis of the whole thing was that colonization would have to come in phases. It would start with establishing a fortified port town along the north shore. This would serve as the primary base of the colony in its opening years as well as the focal point of the later phases' network. It is believed with what we currently know of the Yetis that a moderate staffing should be enough to hold and repel against any raiders. Furthermore, technology developed during the Winter War would be utilized - and possibly even improved upon with more funding and current access to runes - to keep the heat in the area as well as grow crops (to supplement any fish caught, of course, since griffons are either carnivorous or omnivorous but ponies and yaks might not be).
The next phase would be the railroad system. With a combination of railway development and dynamite to carve paths through the mountains we could create a satellite system of forts interspersed throughout the country and mountainside - think of the tributaries of a river - to better exert a force of control without having to occupy every square inch of the countryside. It will also come in handy with future border control, as well as protecting any mining towns that we develop in the future.
The final phase would be the development of commercial industries and trade. Anything mined can be shipped by the railway to the port, the port could be expanded to a large dock to handle being the central area of the colony, and an airport can be built in the future for airship shipping once we better develop commercial airships within a few years. This would create a healthy local economy as well as further incentivize settlement.
Why to Colonize: There are multiple benefits to colonizing the area. First and foremost, the area will likely be host to many valuable minerals, gemstones, and strategic resources as mountainsides are wont to be. We will continue to be in high demand for strategic resources like iron, coal copper, tin, and orichalcum due to the sheer size of our military. With one of the world's largest militaries (and possibly THE world's largest military depending on what's in the unknown), it will take a lot of metals and coal to properly staff said armies and the logistics for their equipment, rations, and the factories supplying them. Colonizing the area will do a lot to continue feeding the expansion of our war machine beyond what our base resources provide, and our growing civilian industry as well as we continue to advance into our own Industrial Age.
On the minerals and gemstones part, even though we are currently rich in such things, there can never be too many for trade. Developing a near monopoly on such goods for this part of the world (especially with the rich cultural heritage we are developing that could influence fashion) would do us a lot of good on boosting trade income as well as furthering our growing domestic market for it as our middle class begins to build. I had another thing I thought of to put here as well, but seeing as that is based on newly confirmed information and wasn't something I said in previous posts, I will leave it out for now.
I also believe the region would do well to become a new hub for trade, especially with Equestria. Ports along the coast could provide a new trade route along the northern coastline, as well as give refueling stations as we transition over to steam-based ships. Likewise, having an airport on the western side of the continent would do wonders for future shipping and make important transportation convenient, simple, and quick. Commercial airships - which I have argued I wish to keep all airships as owned by the government due to security risks - will take another decade at least before they become truly viable on a mass scale, but even a few early on will be amazing.
Next, continued expansion would do well to better assert the Empire's continental hegemony. Equestria could easily be a rival - though a friendly one - should they ever break from their isolationism and the Yaks, though allies, are stubborn and prideful and unlikely to bow consistently to Imperial guidance. We need to take every opportunity for expansion and growth that we can to make sure we maintain our spot as the preeminent power within our sphere of influence. The world is still young, yet stabilizing rapidly, so these are rare opportunities for growth that we won't have later on.
Finally, I said before that I do not believe the Yetis will be such a powerful force. They do not appear to be particularly advanced, and more likely are a society of raiders. I believe that we have enough force, organization, and discipline to hold the areas for colonization without heavy effort or expense, even before we actively make some kind of campaign against the Yetis. Equestria only suffers from them as much as they have because they do not appear to have any professional army except for maybe their royal guard, and likely relies on local militia to protect individual villages as would be common for their decentralized, feudalistic model of governance.
I have more than this to say, of course, as there is more to respond to and offer counterarguments against, but this is the summary of everything I've said in previous conversations over the matter. I wish to save new arguments building atop these arguments for a separate, dedicated post. More will also be added or changed to it as we learn more information in recon.
Either way, that is the summary of everything I have said previously, unless I missed something. I hope this is helpful and thank you once more for taking the initiative to ask!
*I stopped providing them because it was obvious people never used them even when I made it evident that they had to be read to understand what I am getting at. Instead, I just wait for someone to ask because then I know they will read it due to having shown the initiative and interest
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