Maybe, but even if we decided to grab part of Storm Country - nevermind its entirity -, we still got the logistical problem to deal with how we are supposed to supply this new domain that´s utterly disconnected from the rest on our turf by the Yaks, who already have shown themselves to get a bit ornery if bothered by stuff going through their lands.

Dunno if things are worth that kind of hassle
We need to build a port on the northen sea and have the minerals shipped trough whater, get around the yaks is simple enough the problem is asside of the mines storm is as attractive to colonization as Antarctica, and mining wise only Oricalcrum is really worty the hassle to the empire the Yaks may be intrested in other metals but they have fewer logistical problems.
 
Storm Country is the size of our entire empire. That's a LOT of land to cover and I'm skeptical that we could occupy that much hostile territory without stretching our forces too thin. It's more land than we'd know what to do with and ultimately it would be worth the effort just to get a few more Oricalcum mines. There's no reason not to ask allies we've already fought alongside for help with such a large endeavour in exchange for land we wouldn't be able to use anyway because there's so much of it.
I have literally already provided an actual plan multiple times for this whole thing. It's not my fault you guys continuously disregard anything older than a week or the last chapter, whichever is newer.

Like seriously, the whole reason it may seem like I'm just being confrontational without providing anything of worth to the conversation is two main things:

A) I feel like some of you pushing the opposing point of view aren't even actually crafting an argument for it so much as blithely asserting it and thus cannot be engaged in a constructive manner (only some, not all though)

B) More importantly than (A), I have little interest in retreading the same thing ad infinitum when you could just go back and read what's already been presented for each side. It gets annoying rather quickly to rewrite the same words. If you guys actually showed interest in continuing where the conversation was last left off or at least showing that you are aware of the arguments opposing your own, then I would be glad to continue engagement.

It's frustrating putting in effort only to have people effectively go "out of sight, out of mind" after a short period of time. It makes it all feel worthless to me and raises how stressful these things can be despite engagement being the most fun part about questing.
 
Ultimately though, how long is Orichalcum going to be relevant to us as a resource? We don't use it as much as say our world uses Petroleum, mostly weapons which are multi-use. Furthermore we do need quite a few reagents to achieve magical effects via runes, those will likely come to dominate our "drive for resources" more than Orichalcum or Black Steel. Also keep in mind we have our own growing magical traditions, people, and hippogriffs, there may come a time in the not too distant future where we don't need a monopoly on Orichalcum. It's more concerning that the Yeti have it and are using it for something, than the fact that we don't have a monopoly.

Thankfully we have the diamond dogs so finding gems is easy.
 
I have literally already provided an actual plan multiple times for this whole thing. It's not my fault you guys continuously disregard anything older than a week or the last chapter, whichever is newer.

Like seriously, the whole reason it may seem like I'm just being confrontational without providing anything of worth to the conversation is two main things:

A) I feel like some of you pushing the opposing point of view aren't even actually crafting an argument for it so much as blithely asserting it and thus cannot be engaged in a constructive manner (only some, not all though)

B) More importantly than (A), I have little interest in retreading the same thing ad infinitum when you could just go back and read what's already been presented for each side. It gets annoying rather quickly to rewrite the same words. If you guys actually showed interest in continuing where the conversation was last left off or at least showing that you are aware of the arguments opposing your own, then I would be glad to continue engagement.

It's frustrating putting in effort only to have people effectively go "out of sight, out of mind" after a short period of time. It makes it all feel worthless to me and raises how stressful these things can be despite engagement being the most fun part about questing.
Yeah, I think I remember your plan. It was something along the lines of bomb them from airships but that doesn't change the fact that we'll need soldiers on the ground to actually control the territory and lots of them because Storm Country is huge. What I don't understand is why so many are averse to getting the Yaks involved. They're right next door and will likely accept because they'll benefit from the removal of a slaver state right next to them.
 
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Yeah, I think I remember your plan. It was something along the lines of bomb them from airships but that doesn't change the fact that we'll need soldiers on the ground to actually control the territory and lots of them because Storm Country is huge. What I don't understand is why so many are averse to getting the Yaks involved. They're right next door and will likely accept to remove the threat.
Frankly speaking the best way to treat it is to just find (or make) a friendly faction of locals and trade industrial goods for The Stuff we want. All the benefits of taking the region with none of the personnel costs.
 
Frankly speaking the best way to treat it is to just find (or make) a friendly faction of locals and trade industrial goods for The Stuff we want. All the benefits of taking the region with none of the personnel costs.
We dont know if theres a friendly faction there trough, The empire have some verry hard lines between "we gladly will uplift you" and "fuck you and your faction" shit like slavery is specialy a deal breaker, and storm is not realy kind to its pepole.
 
We dont know if theres a friendly faction there trough, The empire have some verry hard lines between "we gladly will uplift you" and "fuck you and your faction" shit like slavery is specialy a deal breaker, and storm is not realy kind to its pepole.
Hence why "make one" is an option. Through intrigue, assassination, or general deal making.
 
Hence why "make one" is an option. Through intrigue, assassination, or general deal making.
I mean its a couple of "ifs" to many to me right nown.
We need to scout the region, best case scenario there diamond dogs tribes there so we can organize under a banner, done that and we totaly can do your idea and turn the storm subjulgation shadow war into Kaboom's playground.
 
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Yeah, I think I remember your plan. It was something along the lines of bomb them from airships but that doesn't change the fact that we'll need soldiers on the ground to actually control the territory and lots of them because Storm Country is huge. What I don't understand is why so many are averse to getting the Yaks involved. They're right next door and will likely accept because they'll benefit from the removal of a slaver state right next to them.
No? That was MrRobot's plan, and that was said literally two days ago. Kinda reinforces my whole thing about you guys disregarding anything else said if you can't even be bothered to remember something from two days ago (which by the way was an argument for your side of the disagreement, not mine). "Bomb them" also isn't a plan and I wouldn't refer to something I wrote as a plan if it was just 1-2 sentences.

My plan had an actually long and detailed argument over many posts on how to feasibly colonize the area, how to solve logistical issues, and why it would be favorable to do so.
 
No? That was MrRobot's plan, and that was said literally two days ago. Kinda reinforces my whole thing about you guys disregarding anything else said if you can't even be bothered to remember something from two days ago (which by the way was an argument for your side of the disagreement, not mine). "Bomb them" also isn't a plan and I wouldn't refer to something I wrote as a plan if it was just 1-2 sentences.

My plan had an actually long and detailed argument over many posts on how to feasibly colonize the area, how to solve logistical issues, and why it would be favorable to do so.
Uh could you please detail it again or link it?
 
No? That was MrRobot's plan, and that was said literally two days ago. Kinda reinforces my whole thing about you guys disregarding anything else said if you can't even be bothered to remember something from two days ago (which by the way was an argument for your side of the disagreement, not mine). "Bomb them" also isn't a plan and I wouldn't refer to something I wrote as a plan if it was just 1-2 sentences.

My plan had an actually long and detailed argument over many posts on how to feasibly colonize the area, how to solve logistical issues, and why it would be favorable to do so.
Sorry about the mix-up. There's been a lot of discussion on that topic and this is not the first time it's been brought up in the last few days so I'm having a bit of trouble remembering who said what.
 
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How dose hippogriff magic work? is just unicorn magic or dose the pony parent affect the type magic the hippogriff has?

Will there be hippogriff tribes?
 
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How dose hippogriff magic work? is just unicorn magic or dose the pony parent affect the type magic the hippogriff has?

Will there be hippogriff tribes?
Probably cristal poney magic by nature but a lot of cantebery doctrine due merlin.

No tribes hipogrifs are by definition imperial as fuck, they probably will join research centers or wizards guilds.
 
Um ok, new to the thread, been a wild binge run through the various thread marks, have a few quick questions:

1. I noticed that some of the magical reagents for runes were listed as crystals or plants. I can't help but notice we have crystal and earth pony populations, could we reduce the costs of runes by farming relevant plants and crystals?

2. Do we know if there's a consistent difference between the magical talents of hippogryphs born to ponies of different tribes/sub-species? Do they have the whole cutiemark thing going on?

3. Are our ballistae still relevant/worth investing in? Because I'm wondering if they'd be a better AA gun than cannons, and if so I have some suggestions for naval doctrine and composition.
 
3. Are our ballistae still relevant/worth investing in? Because I'm wondering if they'd be a better AA gun than cannons, and if so I have some suggestions for naval doctrine and composition.
Cheaper in field logistics, I guess, as metal can be beaten into crude heads for locally sourced shafts whereas gunpowder can't be found on site in the same way. Their increased size and complexity does limit their usefulness as an AA piece though, even when firing clusters of crossbow bolts rather than a single large projectile.

So I would argue no except for militia/town guard formations. Maybe back up engines for when you expect to be far from resupply, or certain payloads that won't appreciate the energetic launch of a cannon.
 
Cheaper in field logistics, I guess, as metal can be beaten into crude heads for locally sourced shafts whereas gunpowder can't be found on site in the same way. Their increased size and complexity does limit their usefulness as an AA piece though, even when firing clusters of crossbow bolts rather than a single large projectile.

So I would argue no except for militia/town guard formations. Maybe back up engines for when you expect to be far from resupply, or certain payloads that won't appreciate the energetic launch of a cannon.
Ironically, from what I remember hearing somewhere, it may not exactly be the case. Considering gun ammo was apperantly historically cheaper than arrows because ironically, arrows require more skilled labor to make, needing a cadre of highly skilled fletchers to make...
So honestly, it depends how far along in gun tech we are...
 
Right then, we'll need to rely on swivel guns or something along those lines for AA.

Furthermore we need to invest heavily into high power, precision AA due to having a large amount of flying melee units.

Although maybe the key there is using our flight units as AA, we just need a gun they can carry, and fire in the air, or a vehicle with lots of swivel guns.

EDIT: Hmmmm a sort of psuedo carrier doctrine maybe? With individual gryffs replacing planes?
 
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Ironically, from what I remember hearing somewhere, it may not exactly be the case. Considering gun ammo was apperantly historically cheaper than arrows because ironically, arrows require more skilled labor to make, needing a cadre of highly skilled fletchers to make...
So honestly, it depends how far along in gun tech we are...
My apologies, I must not have been clear: ballista CAN replenish ammunition in the field while cannons can NOT do so. Plus with how our nation is set up a large number of our skirmishers are hunters and the like who make their own ammunition.

Making our ballistas technically better at harassing fire and flinging incendiaries while cannon are formation and wall breakers directed by the army's commander.
 
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