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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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if we do trap him it will be temporary till we make anti-sombra weapon
so 1-4 turns
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do what starswirl did banish trap none magic dimension
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power rangers
 
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Here's a thought, Gigantic Frag explosive with the anti magic metal as the shrapnel.

Let's see the shadow fuckhead regenerate from that.
 
Seeing as we're already thinking of putting orichalcum in our explosives, I believe it is time to explosively weaponize our fungus farms.

Get our farmers to breeding a volitle super-shroom.

Boom-Shrooms, if you will.
 
Theunderbolt said:
Why hello there potential ant magic box were we can stuff Sombra.
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Drepson said:
NO! We shall not leave an evil trapped waiting to get free to take revenge on unprepared descendents who have long since forgotten the truth thinking the monster just a myth
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Not only that, but I would imagine it would be much harder to trap Sombra, as opposed to killing him.

Here's what we know about him currently (I think):

He was in his smoke form when our spies last saw him. This could mean he no longer has a body a la Voldemort or he is choosing to stay like that constantly out of paranoia.

He was seen going through an obviously important orb-thing multiple times. Either the thing is keeping him alive like a horcrux (again a la Voldemort), or he is using it to recharge his magic.

I would imagine any strategy to deal with Sombra permanently will have to include either destroying or stealing that orb (on account of it possibly being the Crystal Heart, though I doubt it). Keeping said orb out of his reach will more than likely weaken him significantly, force him back into his squishier form, or kill him outright.

Fighting to contain rather than kill has a few more problems to it than its inverse. Trying to corral him into a box (especially in his smoke form) would be an exercise in futility, were as shooting/stabbing/blasting him sounds much more doable. If his smoke form is an active spell like the qulins(?) fire bending, it would be possible to disrupt it with a orchalcum-tipped ballista bolt or similar.

Edit:Of course, now that I'm thinking about it, one benifit to using orchalcum-coated cannonballs, as opposed to tipped ballista bolts would be nullifying his ability to telekinetically stop the projectiles. With a tipped bolt, he could just grab the shaft with his magic, but he couldnt do the same with the cannonball, as no part of its surface would allow his magic to grip it. This isn't stopping physical barriers mind, but we would be a little more likely to get a lucky hit in with a magic-null cannonball, in my opinion.
 
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Oooh idea what if we create an anti magic box sized for the orb thing and see if we can distract sombra and have a separate team sneak into and steal the orb then we can just wait for him to starve maybe or at least weaken him greatly
 
hyperspacemage said:
Oooh idea what if we create an anti magic box sized for the orb thing and see if we can distract sombra and have a separate team sneak into and steal the orb then we can just wait for him to starve maybe or at least weaken him greatly
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Not a bad idea, as it would more than likely disconnect him from whatever the orb does, though if it is what amounts as a horcrux, then he might dissipate only to reform inside the box... which would make capturing him easy (for a given value of "easy"). Huh.
 
How about a Crossbow with an oricalcum tipped arrow for us, our wife and every knight/ knight-commander. I am pretty sure sombra would disregard them as a threat, as he showed he can stop arrows, till it is to late for him to react. Oricalcumswords for everyone possible and the armours for the royals and the commanders I would suggest in term of generell armament.
 
Do you know one of the best things about orichalcum? It could help research magic that much easier! Yes, long-term goal, BUT with this we can find how magic affects reality (to extend). And it could turn out that 'magic' is a form of [quantum] science that we ("non-magical" beings) can replicate artificially with technology {([unlike the biological/natural/instinctual of ponies and some other "magical" species])}.

<-=hmmm, wonder if orichalcum can hurt Windigos... let's experiment! =->

As for fight agains Sombra, I partially agree with orichalcum coated swords (if you're in CQC something's wrong) and cannonballs (spheres need less material to coat them and harder to intercept with magic) but we should research something about FLYING MACHINES!!!

Why? Transport. It's often overlooked, but how long would our combined forces need to march and carry their equipment? How much energy, time and resources would they lose BEFORE they engage the enemy?
With flying transport we can carry our forces in a fraction of that time, stop outside Sombra's engagement range (or just outside visual range) deploy our forces and than "Surprise, sucker!!"

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Renars said:
As for fight agains Sombra, I partially agree with orichalcum coated swords (if you're in CQC something's wrong) and cannonballs (spheres need less material to coat them and harder to intercept with magic)
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You might have a point with CQC, but I feel that Sombras very nature as a Wizard/Spellcaster/whatever means the further away he is, the easier it would be for him to dodge/block our limited orichalcum ammunition. The preferred strategy I believe (if his smoke form is a non-factor) would be to either poke him with an anti-magic stick, then poke him a LOT more when he's down, get some anti-magic chains (or similar) then poke him, or nail him with an anti-magic cannonball... then poke the splattered horse meat to make sure.
 
Rick Pickler said:
You might have a point with CQC, but I feel that Sombras very nature as a Wizard/Spellcaster/whatever means the further away he is, the easier it would be for him to dodge/block our limited orichalcum ammunition. The preferred strategy I believe (if his smoke form is a non-factor) would be to either poke him with an anti-magic stick, then poke him a LOT more when he's down, get some anti-magic chains (or similar) then poke him, or nail him with an anti-magic cannonball... then poke the splattered horse meat to make sure.
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That.... is a very reasonable and logical plan. :D

That aside (not against it) but mid-range exists for a reason, no? And remember the previous battle, Sombra went for the front lines. Now wether that was him being angry beyond reason, or spur-of-the-moment thing, that's how he dealt the most damage. So partially we can reason: some of his most dangerous spells have limited range.

Besides orichalcum has some area-of-affect range (aka Yak shaman and that ingot?).
Not saying to bombard the whole Crystal Empire with expensive metal, just that correctly spread orichalcum coated cannonballs could affect Sombra's and Windigo's magic.

Besides, Ideas never hurt to discuss (unless it's Chaos than burn it).
 
Serious talk here, but I think our best shot at offing Pony!Sauron goes like this:

It's a fair assumption that his smoke form will be the most challenging factor to overcome, barring lucky circumstances. If we are able to disrupt his smoke form with a shot from an orichalcum weapon, then we may have only an instant to pounce, since it is unlikely an arrow flying through his smoke form will stay lodged in him, and if he recovers before we capitalize, we may not get another chance.

What I think we would need to do would be to shoot his smoke form with an anti-magic arrow, then IMMEDIATELY get him with a second one, hopefully preventing him retreating or using magic. While he is reeling from that, we bum-rush him, and either start covering him in anti-magic restraints, or pin him to the ground with as many orichalcum swords as we can.

Too bad the Qilins can't heat up the orichalcum, or I would suggest dumping a boiling cauldron of the stuff on him, then use the resulting tastefully black statue as a Throne Room decoration.

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Renars said:
That aside (not against it) but mid-range exists for a reason, no? And remember the previous battle, Sombra went for the front lines. Now wether that was him being angry beyond reason, or spur-of-the-moment thing, that's how he dealt the most damage. So partially we can reason: some of his most dangerous spells have limited range.
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You have a point, but I feel that Sombra sticking to his already-observed-tactics isn't something we should just assume. He was (hopefully) dealt a pretty serious blow that seems to have affected his magic (it was observed that the blizzard he sent in retaliation for his mines was weaker than his first). Any rational being would be leery with getting close to the thing that almost did him in.

Though, whether Sombra can be considered rational, or that he wouldn't be so spitting mad he tries anyway is also an assumption.
 
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We should get a crown made of the stuff to prevent mind reading and hopefully protect against illusions. It depends if illusions are mind or light based but having all the royal family and important guards carrying the stuff should hopefully prevent mind control and changelings or shape shifters because having to carry around anti magic should prevent them from using such abilities
 
My biggest concern with fighting Sombra is two fold, first his planning abilities for roadblocks (in show examples include linking the city's fate to himself, creating a door that can only be opened by dark magic, putting anything critical up several flights of stairs to tire out anyone getting there and booby-trapping his one weakness to both trap the heroes in the room and create a hazard of growing dark crystals within the castle) and his power to trap people in their worst nightmares by energising crystals with his magic and getting others to look at it.
 
hyperspacemage said:
We should get a crown made of the stuff to prevent mind reading and hopefully protect against illusions. It depends if illusions are mind or light based but having all the royal family and important guards carrying the stuff should hopefully prevent mind control and changelings or shape shifters because having to carry around anti magic should prevent them from using such abilities
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While I could see an orichalcum crown prevent Kitsune based illusions from sticking (mostly cause I think it would work like genjustu from Naruto), I doubt it would do anything to Changlings, since their illusions are centered on themselves and don't seem to need any sort of magical tether connecting to someone's mind to change what others see.

Edit: Also the fact that, as far as I know, we haven't got confirmation on whether or not orichalcum affects internal/instinctual uses of magic (Gryphon flight, Yak strength, etc.), I would think that Changlings would be able to safely shapeshift/illusion themselves, but any mind magic should be just straight blocked by any anti-magic crown.
 
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Whumbly said:
My biggest concern with fighting Sombra is two fold, first his planning abilities for roadblocks (in show examples include linking the city's fate to himself, creating a door that can only be opened by dark magic, putting anything critical up several flights of stairs to tire out anyone getting there and booby-trapping his one weakness to both trap the heroes in the room and create a hazard of growing dark crystals within the castle) and his power to trap people in their worst nightmares by energising crystals with his magic and getting others to look at it.
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While I don't think we can really do anything about the former, the latter would probably be mitigated or negated outright by some anti-magic headgear. Though outfitting our entire army with a band of the stuff in their helmets would be a Herculean undertaking, not to mention impossible for Garrick to consider since HE wouldn't know about it.
 
Rick Pickler said:
While I could see an orichalcum crown prevent Kitsune based illusions from sticking (mostly cause I think it would work like genjustu from Naruto), I doubt it would do anything to Changlings, since their illusions are centered on themselves and don't seem to need any sort of magical tether connecting to someone's mind to change what others see.
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Well crown could prevent mind control thing Chrysalis pulled out on Shining Armor, maybe even stop love drainage.
 
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