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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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Firebringer2077 said:
Isn't it great we didn't spend 1000 gold on those fortifications against the yaks, those would have been a great investment. Ok no time for snark, how to defeat Sombra without having a lavender magical prodigy and 6 pieces of a Deus Ex Machina, or two immortal pony goddesses. Well doing an offensive strategy is suicide, we barely even got to know about Sombra without losing most griffons. I see a few possible strategies here.

1. Diplomacy: Sombra obviously wants something, and from the show we know what that is... crystals. There is a chance we could pay tribute for a while and buy us the necessary time to build up or forge relations with others to mount a defense. I know it sucks but it is an option to consider. We do need to clarify if Crystals that he wants are the same as the Gems the Diamond Dogs want, if they are different we are fine, if the same... well GG guys GG.

2. Defense on front: We construct a wide array of fortresses along the Peregrine Mountains with Ballistas troops, cannons, and perhaps even connected via tunnels underground. Personally I think this plan is doomed to fail, cause you know Magic

3. Defense in depth: We know we can't hold the line at the Peregrine Mountains, so we mobilize the knights and army to build supply depots and weapon stockpiles between Griffonstone and the Peregrine mountains, have the knights and army train as many people as they can, make guerrilla engagements and the like... Of course against Magical mist this might be moot too

4. Subterranean Highways and Bunkers: Yes very Fallouty but the Diamond Dogs are phenomenal Diggers, Building and and excavating the large stockpiles of food and weapons needed? Having a secret way of getting between two cities without being spotted over land

5. Find Magical weapons: Yeah this is a gamble but we need SOMETHING

IN terms of possible opportunity avenues I don't think we have considered

Finding Brouchard's old Spymaster and offering whatever they want for the treasury to defend our nation. All the more terrible option is they already joined Sombra

Making first Contact with Neighpon and hope to hell there is some proof to those Divine Dragons for the sake of us all.

Foment dissent in the Crystal Empire this assumes there IS one, but keeping him at bay may be an option to consider.

I also however found some good news.

Sombra is possibly the only magical being there. I found a list on MLP of all Crystal Ponies, there is not many unicorn crystal ponys at all ... besides Sombra, none in the background of the original residents of the Crystal Empire, and most of the ones we do see seem to have been living in Equestria before Sombra's return so they are immigrants. In that same vein... there seem to be very very few or possibly no Pegasi Crystal Ponies, as most of the "crystal ponies" on the list HERE are Royal Guard Pegasi, and they only appeared after Cadence was on the throne. Of course the production team may have just been reusing old ponies to put into crowd scenes. and absence of pre-Cadence crystal unicorns or pegasi doesn't mean they don't exist.

The last two I normally wouldn't bring up but I figure it's important to show that Sombra is not some impossible enemy, he has flaws he has deficiencies, and one obvious one I see is that he likely can't be everywhere. Leaving the Crystal Palace his throne of power and the Crystal Heart is probably not easy for him. Attacking Sombra is suicide, Defending against him, as he effectively has one hand tied behind his back? Doable and much easier. The biggest mistake we could make is fighting him head on potentially
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Funny thing is The Mane Six couldn't of done it without Spike since Twi got trapped and I forget what the rest of the six did, so let's just throw a baby dragon into the works and we'll be fine...
 
Okay, my solution since we don't have magic is to throw money at things.

That means building fortifications we know will likely fall, that means sending bodies we know will probably die, that means asking for help we know we won't hance to receive, that means paying off informants who likely don't exist, it means spying and a kingdom of mostly nothing.

Because one of those forts might stand, one of those soldiers might live, some aid might come, one of those informants could be legit, in that kindom there is potential for something.

My suggestion is, and I mean this in ic not meta terms, roll as many dice and hope one lands well.

Put our weight behind doing literally everything in hope that something works because if we get enough things going eventually something will.

We are not conceptual incarnations with epic level diving synergy backed by gods and dragons and magic. We cannot push a minor assault and accomplish anything more than a field of corpses. We are magicless and low tech, worst of all worlds but we do have money. And to be frank, I'm not being numerous or facetious when I say that our best and likely only option is to throw money at the problem until it goes away.

The only question is how to throw the money and where.
 
Keani said:
Okay, my solution since we don't have magic is to throw money at things.

That means building fortifications we know will likely fall, that means sending bodies we know will probably die, that means asking for help we know we won't hance to receive, that means paying off informants who likely don't exist, it means spying and a kingdom of mostly nothing.

Because one of those forts might stand, one of those soldiers might live, some aid might come, one of those informants could be legit, in that kindom there is potential for something.

My suggestion is, and I mean this in ic not meta terms, roll as many dice and hope one lands well.

Put our weight behind doing literally everything in hope that something works because if we get enough things going eventually something will.

We are not conceptual incarnations with epic level diving synergy backed by gods and dragons and magic. We cannot push a minor assault and accomplish anything more than a field of corpses. We are magicless and low tech, worst of all worlds but we do have money. And to be frank, I'm not being numerous or facetious when I say that our best and likely only option is to throw money at the problem until it goes away.

The only question is how to throw the money and where.
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Indeed, in the coming war proper allocation of resources and Griffpower will be crucial . Besides I find waiting for some Miracle to happen to be a complete waste of time. We are Griffons for Ancestors sake we should be sharpening our swords to face the Great Evil that seeks to destroy our Empire and enslave our people not panicking like headless chickens!
 
Okay since the Crystal Empire is near us that could mean Equestria is south of the empire I just hope they're planning to attack the empire while Sombra is attacking us.
 
Shadow-86 said:
Can you please let me have some hope for our people..:cry::sad:
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No, we need to be ready to buy of what is needed to fend of not just crystal souron but crystal souron with a resurgent and thriving empire and two gods under his thrall prepared to unless a great old one.

If needed we will need to be ready to sell the world and empire to buy our family.
 
Right. I think our best chance is sabotage. Send in groups that are separated to avoid being wiped out all at once. Have them break and steal as much as possible. Try to use his stuff against him.
 
we can try diplomacy the yaks won't be any help unless somehow a Kahn shows up but if that happenes we're all fucked but the ships we have seen are something we should look into throw men at him till we can get there help we need some heavy firepower and a small army of dragons is a good amount of firepower
 
Raptor580 said:
Tell me about it. @Questor im curious but was it already planned for the crystal empire to be to our south or was there another roll for that?
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Yeah the QM said that the people around us were already chosen we just had to roll to see how they were when we met them. The fact that Sombra seem to be using ice powers seem to indicate he might be vulnerable to the flamers we can make.

Shadow-86 said:
Okay since the Crystal Empire is near us that could mean Equestria is south of the empire I just hope they're planning to attack the empire while Sombra is attacking us.
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Every thing is random there is no guarantee that the Two sisters are anywhere near the crystal empire.
 
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Revan4221X said:
we can try diplomacy the yaks won't be any help unless somehow a Kahn shows up but if that happenes we're all fucked but the ships we have seen are something we should look into throw men at him till we can get there help we need some heavy firepower and a small army of dragons is a good amount of firepower
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No no, a Khan fighting the enemy is good, we can worry about the consequences once were sure not to be enthralled under it's foul magicks.

Also you have a point with neighponese aid, the fire nation might have ways to combat this vile frost.
 
Inteeeeeresting! Ideally i would have wanted a few more years before a total war like this one, but oh well, this is how the dice rolled.

It will be hard, but there are interesting rewards to get! Crystals, magical artefacts, and the chance to conquer the Crystal Empire!
Firebringer2077 said:
Isn't it great we didn't spend 1000 gold on those fortifications against the yaks, those would have been a great investment. Ok no time for snark, how to defeat Sombra without having a lavender magical prodigy and 6 pieces of a Deus Ex Machina, or two immortal pony goddesses. Well doing an offensive strategy is suicide, we barely even got to know about Sombra without losing most griffons. I see a few possible strategies here.

1. Diplomacy: Sombra obviously wants something, and from the show we know what that is... crystals. There is a chance we could pay tribute for a while and buy us the necessary time to build up or forge relations with others to mount a defense. I know it sucks but it is an option to consider. We do need to clarify if Crystals that he wants are the same as the Gems the Diamond Dogs want, if they are different we are fine, if the same... well GG guys GG.
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I don't think we have much of a chance here. We can try, but failure is near certain. We need to prepare for a long war of attrition
Revan4221X said:
I forget dident we ask before if the diamond dogs have magic and we got a maybe maybe not? If we want we could try to search for any more info on that. Yes I know this is grasping as straws! Magic is really the only thing I can think of and we don't have it and the yaks don't as far as we know.
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already asked, they have legends of magical alpha leaders with all kinds of abilities, but currently no proof they're anything more than that. It would be nice if some of them awakened new powers during the war, but it's unlikely at best, and we have no real way to influence it.

Keani said:
Okay, my solution since we don't have magic is to throw money at things.

That means building fortifications we know will likely fall, that means sending bodies we know will probably die, that means asking for help we know we won't hance to receive, that means paying off informants who likely don't exist, it means spying and a kingdom of mostly nothing.

Because one of those forts might stand, one of those soldiers might live, some aid might come, one of those informants could be legit, in that kindom there is potential for something.

My suggestion is, and I mean this in ic not meta terms, roll as many dice and hope one lands well.

Put our weight behind doing literally everything in hope that something works because if we get enough things going eventually something will.

We are not conceptual incarnations with epic level diving synergy backed by gods and dragons and magic. We cannot push a minor assault and accomplish anything more than a field of corpses. We are magicless and low tech, worst of all worlds but we do have money. And to be frank, I'm not being numerous or facetious when I say that our best and likely only option is to throw money at the problem until it goes away.

The only question is how to throw the money and where.
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I agree with this.

Basically right now we are at a disadvantage, though it's not hopeless.

Starting plan should be to fight an attrition war, trying to gain as much time as possible to research new techs, get more resources to throw in the war and find allies and/or magical weapons. Basically we need time to find a solution.

We know the Yaks' language, so we can ask them for help. They'll probably send someone to check if this threat is true so we won't probably get help the first year, but we MIGHT be able to get reinforcements for the second one (it will probably be a long war...).

We should also use one personal action to train again. Even if we don't want to fight personally an higher martial score will translate to an higher bonus to military actions.


So, basically, we need to gain as much time as possible in the hope of finding something to turn the tide, be it allies, techs, a weakness or a magical macguffin.


...Just thinking, if there are changeling in our midst this is the moment to show themselves. They should want Sombra's victory even less than us! Not much love in a mind controlled/enslaved population, while we'd REALLY love whoever helped us.
 
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Keani said:
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No no, a Khan fighting the enemy is good, we can worry about the consequences once were sure not to be enthralled under it's foul magicks.

Also you have a point with neighponese aid, the fire nation might have ways to combat this vile frost.
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I agree with that they are probably what we need we would just need to get past isolationism and while we don't know how unified or powerfull they are they atleast have ships around so they should atleast be able to help us if we get relations
 
Oh hey guys i'm just coming back to the threa-

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OH GOD ITS SOMBRA! AND HE'S SCARY! I'M SORRY I CALLED YOU A FUCKUP!

*hides in corner wondering if we can survive a war like this*

I don't think our people are gonna have the greatest view on magic after this..
 
So basically next turn we need to do literally every thing from sending a convoy to Nieghpon for aid to ramping military up beyond all reason and sending Archimedes off to researching just about anything and everything military with no sleep.
 
Revan4221X said:
I agree with that they are probably what we need we would just need to get past isolationism and while we don't know how unified or powerfull they are they atleast have ships around so they should atleast be able to help us if we get relations
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Chances are very unified and very powerful if they resemble anything said in the OP.

Raptor580 said:
So basically next turn we need to do literally every thing from sending a convoy to Nieghpon for aid to ramping military up beyond all reason and sending Archimedes off to researching just about anything and everything military with no sleep.
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I choose to hold faith in our ability to roll enough dice that at least one will end in our favor. Otherwise, the dice gods have forsaken us.
 
Also i really do think its time to see some omakes again they died off and im sad they were always great reads in between the updates and i think after the few turns without them we now have ample material for some.
 
My hope is that we can hold sombra off long enough for

A. this war gets too costly for him

B. we somehow kill him

C. Equestria discovers him and he's put in a two front war against a nation that seems like the perfect mashup against him.

D. An army of escaped demons(from tartarus) attack him.
 
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